"The Republican Party is losing north, south, east, west; men, woman, white, blacks..

[sealybobo]

so since the Democratic party in California has not delivered what they promised out here,and has in fact KILLED this state....the same applies to them ...right?....

their education and immigration policies being the example......i cant wait for you to defend them.....

I don't know enough about Cali to speak. All I know is the GOP tried blaming our Democratic governor as they were sending all our manufacturing jobs overseas. So I suspect you have a right wing slant on whats happening in Cali.

Just because the voters in California are liberal, doesn't mean the corporations are too.

Companies hire illegals for sub par wages. This is anti middle class. And they don't insure them. So if they get sick, taxpayers pick up the tab.

Socialize the losses and privatize the profits.

The GOP is split on this. Half of you are Minute Men who want illegals out, and the other half want the cheap labor.

And we already know that Bush/the GOP tried to open up the borders so Mexican truckers can come into the USA. That's anti labor. And the unions are complaining. And they endorse the Dems. So maybe you should tell the unions if you know something they don't.

My guess is you have a right wing spin on whats going on in Cali. You should move to a red state. I hear they take in more federal tax dollars than they pay out.

Illegals have been a major budget breaker in California along with special interest groups. It's been fully loaded democrat legislatures over the decades that have put California on the brink of bankrupsty. "They can't say NO to spending."

As far as comparing the sympathy to illegal workers--here is Nancy Pelosi's statement on them--basically giving them a "safe haven" in San Francisco. So your comparison of Mexicans driving trucks through our country versus taking jobs--getting on the taxpayer social welfare programs--are extremely short sited. Democrats will do anything to keep the Latin American voting block--even while screwing YOU--the people who continually vote for them.

Click on the below!

Pelosi Tells Illegal Immigrants That Work Site Raids are Un-American - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com

To add it was Bill Clinton that signed the NAFTA agreement with Mexico--not G.W. Bush? It was also during the Clinton admininstration when most jobs in manufacturing went overseas. BUT--California being the 2nd highest taxed state in the union--it's of no wonder to me that corporations would be looking elsewhere to set up operations.

I don't approve of this. If you remember in 2006 or 05, this was an issue that we all cared about, and we called Congress and demanded action.

So what did they give us? Some bullshit bill that didn't really solve the problem.

Remember, bleeding heart liberals can fight all they want for illegal immigrant rights. If employers weren't hiring them, they'd go home tomorrow.

Your party is split on this. Half of you like the cheap labor and half of you are Minute Men.

And I seem to recall in the past that hispanics tended to be conservative. I'm glad to hear they are voting Dem now. They tend to be socially conservative. Anti gay, anti abortion. Luckily they know that the most imporant issue is $. The wedge issues are just used to divide us.

I have more in common with the illegal immigrant than I do the millionaire Americans or Corporations who wants to cut my wages so they can make more profits. They pitted the illegals against us. I don't blame the illegal workers. I blame the illegal employers.

 

[sealybobo]

so since the Democratic party in California has not delivered what they promised out here,and has in fact KILLED this state....the same applies to them ...right?....

their education and immigration policies being the example......i cant wait for you to defend them.....

I don't know enough about Cali to speak. All I know is the GOP tried blaming our Democratic governor as they were sending all our manufacturing jobs overseas. So I suspect you have a right wing slant on whats happening in Cali.

Just because the voters in California are liberal, doesn't mean the corporations are too.

Companies hire illegals for sub par wages. This is anti middle class. And they don't insure them. So if they get sick, taxpayers pick up the tab.

Socialize the losses and privatize the profits.

The GOP is split on this. Half of you are Minute Men who want illegals out, and the other half want the cheap labor.

And we already know that Bush/the GOP tried to open up the borders so Mexican truckers can come into the USA. That's anti labor. And the unions are complaining. And they endorse the Dems. So maybe you should tell the unions if you know something they don't.

My guess is you have a right wing spin on whats going on in Cali. You should move to a red state. I hear they take in more federal tax dollars than they pay out.

Illegals have been a major budget breaker in California along with special interest groups. It's been fully loaded democrat legislatures over the decades that have put California on the brink of bankrupsty. "They can't say NO to spending."

As far as comparing the sympathy to illegal workers--here is Nancy Pelosi's statement on them--basically giving them a "safe haven" in San Francisco. So your comparison of Mexicans driving trucks through our country versus taking jobs--getting on the taxpayer social welfare programs--are extremely short sited. Democrats will do anything to keep the Latin American voting block--even while screwing YOU--the people who continually vote for them.

Click on the below!

Pelosi Tells Illegal Immigrants That Work Site Raids are Un-American - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com

To add it was Bill Clinton that signed the NAFTA agreement with Mexico--not G.W. Bush? It was also during the Clinton admininstration when most jobs in manufacturing went overseas. BUT--California being the 2nd highest taxed state in the union--it's of no wonder to me that corporations would be looking elsewhere to set up operations.

Without knowing for sure, I will bet you that more jobs went overseas under GW than Clinton. I could be wrong.

You guys love to put NAFTA on Clinton when it was a GOP creation.

Following diplomatic negotiations dating back to 1991 between the three nations, the leaders met in San Antonio, Texas, on December 17, 1992, to sign NAFTA. U.S. President George H.W. Bush, Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney and Mexican President Carlos Salinas, each responsible for spearheading and promoting the agreement, ceremonially signed it.

North American Free Trade Agreement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Harry Dresden]

Democrats have to sneak around if they want to be in bed with the corporations. Look at Dodd. He tried to slip AIG their bonus' in the bailout. Republicans are proud to give CEO's bonus' for failure.

so your people lie to ya and screw you behind your back and thats something that should be considered honorable.....while those rascally Republicans tell you their fucking you and thats being dishonorable....keep talking Bobo your doing great...proving how blinded you are.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

My check reflects a tax break from Obama.

Did you get ahead on Bush's tax breaks or did the oil pumps eat it up?

How's your home value? 401K?

Didn't the price of everything go up?

How much is your share of the Iraq war?

Dude, bush only gave you a loan with your own money. You owe it back, with interest!!!!

You know you are worse off now than you were in 2000.

no im not....im much better off....i can go just about anywhere right now and buy just about anything i want.....and i dont expect to be doing any worse under OB....

oh and by the way....my 15 bucks a week that Obama so graciously gave me is being eaten up by his and your Liberal Dems in the Cal. assembly.....so whats difference between Obamas tax break and Bush's?....if they both got eaten up....

Arnold is raising your taxes?

the legislature is raising taxes on many things ...car registration will double june 1st i believe.....gas tax,sales taxes....and if Arnold dont denounce it then he is with them....so far i have not heard him.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

The problem with righties is you just don't realize that your party doesn't deliver what they promise.

And I told someone else earlier that it isn't the GOP politicians that suck, its the voters. Instead of stopping your party from doing bad shit to this country, you defend it. The perfect example is sending jobs overseas. You love the cheap goods, so fuck the American wages/jobs, right?

so since the Democratic party in California has not delivered what they promised out here,and has in fact KILLED this state....the same applies to them ...right?....

their education and immigration policies being the example......i cant wait for you to defend them.....

I don't know enough about Cali to speak. All I know is the GOP tried blaming our Democratic governor as they were sending all our manufacturing jobs overseas. So I suspect you have a right wing slant on whats happening in Cali.

Just because the voters in California are liberal, doesn't mean the corporations are too.

Companies hire illegals for sub par wages. This is anti middle class. And they don't insure them. So if they get sick, taxpayers pick up the tab.

Socialize the losses and privatize the profits.

The GOP is split on this. Half of you are Minute Men who want illegals out, and the other half want the cheap labor.

And we already know that Bush/the GOP tried to open up the borders so Mexican truckers can come into the USA. That's anti labor. And the unions are complaining. And they endorse the Dems. So maybe you should tell the unions if you know something they don't.

My guess is you have a right wing spin on whats going on in Cali. You should move to a red state. I hear they take in more federal tax dollars than they pay out.

your hopeless Bobo its like talking to a machine with a repeating track....you say the same shit to everybody,and if you disagree your obviously a republican,even though many of us who disagree with you have repeatedly disagreed with many republicans.....but since you cant see that because of your mind being taken over by the Librelosi voodoo.....ill look at you as being handicap....

 

[k2skier]

Of course the Republican Party is dead. When was the last time that there were more registered Republicans than Democrats? I can't seem to remember, but I believe it's been a while. This idea that the Republican Party is dead is about as laughable as those who said the Democratic Party was dead after the Republicans gained control of Congress.

And for those of you who think we will see a new third party emerge from all of this, think again. We do not have a parliamentary form of government where coalitions can be built between parties. Splitting the Republican Party would leave the Democratic Party in control permanently, and that is exactly why it won't happen.

I predict that a movement for fiscal conservatism will take hold very soon, but probably not before 2012, and maybe not until 2016, but it is coming. Once the kids of the baby boomers start understanding what our fuckups are going to cost them in the long term, they will move very quickly from the ideological left to the fiscally conservative right.

And then in 2 years we will realize the GOP is not the answer. They love to spend too, just on different things.

They don't like welfare, they like corporate welfare. And you guys defend it. Remember trickle down?

PS. Obama lowered your taxes, Bush didn't.

Actually, Bush lowered everyone's taxes and the wealthy actually paid a bigger portion of the pie once those tax cuts too effect. The bottom line is that all this spending will come to an end once voters demand it by electing representatives who have some principles. That means from both parties. This fiscal conservative movement will be here very soon, and it will include liberal thinkers as well. It won't be about social policies as it will be entirely about economic policies.

Please post a link, preferably from the IRS, to support your claim. I bet you can't.

add- middle income brackets, between 20-100k

 

[jreeves]

And then in 2 years we will realize the GOP is not the answer. They love to spend too, just on different things.

They don't like welfare, they like corporate welfare. And you guys defend it. Remember trickle down?

PS. Obama lowered your taxes, Bush didn't.

Actually, Bush lowered everyone's taxes and the wealthy actually paid a bigger portion of the pie once those tax cuts too effect. The bottom line is that all this spending will come to an end once voters demand it by electing representatives who have some principles. That means from both parties. This fiscal conservative movement will be here very soon, and it will include liberal thinkers as well. It won't be about social policies as it will be entirely about economic policies.

Please post a link, preferably from the IRS, to support your claim. I bet you can't.

add- middle income brackets, between 20-100k

FactCheck.org: Here We Go Again: Bush Exaggerates Tax Cuts
It is true that everybody who paid federal income taxes is getting a cut. But according to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, 35.6 million individuals and families got zero benefit from the Bush cuts because their income was so low they were not paying federal income taxes before the cuts. This number includes 15.1 million workers who are paying federal payroll taxes for Social Security and Medicare. That's 15 million "taxpayers" who were left out.
Everyone who paid taxes got a tax cut....

 

[JBeukema]

That's something to hope for jackazz "to silence the masses" that's just what we need you DUmb communist.

1) I am not a commuinist.
2) The babbling masses do need to shutup with the partisan bullshit and listen and reflect

Now who on here ever said they like communism? I think it is funny that now you guys are attacking socialism

Communism =/= Socialism

you're a fuckin' idiot

You simply have been brainwashed to think liberals are evil, so really you don't pay attention at all.

this coming from a guy who is so brainwashed himself,that he thinks Conservatives are evil and are all liars.....

Most politicians appear to be liars

 

[DiveCon]

no im not....im much better off....i can go just about anywhere right now and buy just about anything i want.....and i dont expect to be doing any worse under OB....

oh and by the way....my 15 bucks a week that Obama so graciously gave me is being eaten up by his and your Liberal Dems in the Cal. assembly.....so whats difference between Obamas tax break and Bush's?....if they both got eaten up....

Arnold is raising your taxes?

the legislature is raising taxes on many things ...car registration will double june 1st i believe.....gas tax,sales taxes....and if Arnold dont denounce it then he is with them....so far i have not heard him.....

another example of bobo not knowing what the fuck he is talking about
POTUS and Governors dont raise or lower taxes
that is in the hands of the LEGISLATIVE branch

 

[jreeves]

Arnold is raising your taxes?

the legislature is raising taxes on many things ...car registration will double june 1st i believe.....gas tax,sales taxes....and if Arnold dont denounce it then he is with them....so far i have not heard him.....

another example of bobo not knowing what the fuck he is talking about
POTUS and Governors dont raise or lower taxes
that is in the hands of the LEGISLATIVE branch

When does bobo ever know what he is talking about? Shit stop giving examples of him not knowing what he is talking about. It would be easier to show examples of him knowing what he is talking about, considering those instances are extremely rare.

 

[Harry Dresden]

the legislature is raising taxes on many things ...car registration will double june 1st i believe.....gas tax,sales taxes....and if Arnold dont denounce it then he is with them....so far i have not heard him.....

another example of bobo not knowing what the fuck he is talking about
POTUS and Governors dont raise or lower taxes
that is in the hands of the LEGISLATIVE branch

When does bobo ever know what he is talking about? Shit stop giving examples of him not knowing what he is talking about. It would be easier to show examples of him knowing what he is talking about, considering those instances are extremely rare.

he cant he just repeats the same shit.....and if you disagree....you know what that means.....YOUR OBVIOUSLY A RIGHT-WINGER....everything with Bobo is the NE0-LEFTIST against anyone on their right.....next year at this time Bobo will consider Obama a right-winger if he doesnt tow the Boboist Mantra.....