"The Republican Party is losing north, south, east, west; men, woman, white, blacks..

[Harry Dresden]

Of course the Republican Party is dead. When was the last time that there were more registered Republicans than Democrats? I can't seem to remember, but I believe it's been a while. This idea that the Republican Party is dead is about as laughable as those who said the Democratic Party was dead after the Republicans gained control of Congress.

And for those of you who think we will see a new third party emerge from all of this, think again. We do not have a parliamentary form of government where coalitions can be built between parties. Splitting the Republican Party would leave the Democratic Party in control permanently, and that is exactly why it won't happen.

I predict that a movement for fiscal conservatism will take hold very soon, but probably not before 2012, and maybe not until 2016, but it is coming. Once the kids of the baby boomers start understanding what our fuckups are going to cost them in the long term, they will move very quickly from the ideological left to the fiscally conservative right.

And then in 2 years we will realize the GOP is not the answer. They love to spend too, just on different things.

They don't like welfare, they like corporate welfare. And you guys defend it. Remember trickle down?

PS. Obama lowered your taxes, Bush didn't.

my check reflected a tax break when GWB did it.....so i dont know what you are mumbling about.....

 

[sealybobo]

Just like Bush and the entire GOP. We were telling you guys for years that the GOP wasn't conservative.

And Powell actually is a conservative.

You do realize every true conservative with a brain left the GOP, right?

So why do you still belong?

WHy don't you stop with the generic terms. Conservative. How do you determine? I hope not the same way you guys determined that Clinton & Obama were liberals??? Because you were/are dead wrong.

well Bobo many true liberals with a brain left the dems long ago and became Ind.....so whats your excuse?....

Long ago? So you think the GOP is the same GOP that we had in the 90's?

Do you also think they are the same party back when Lincoln (R) freed the slaves?

So basically you are still suck in the 80's when the Dems were bad. Nice.

Hey, get with the program. The GOP in the 90's and this decade suck worse than the Dems ever did.

The S&L scandal in the 80's that McCain was involved in, Keating 5? Remember? That was the start of this Recession we are in now. Deregulations!!! And the other 4 guys were DEMOCRATS!!! All 4 were run out of politics for sucking ass!!! The only asshole left from that era is the guy you voted for in 2008. McCain!!

So dems today don't do what those dems did back in the 80's. But McCain continued for 30 years being pro deregulations. It was only until late 2008 that he flip flopped. And that didn't bother you? You are brainwashed.

 

[sealybobo]

Of course the Republican Party is dead. When was the last time that there were more registered Republicans than Democrats? I can't seem to remember, but I believe it's been a while. This idea that the Republican Party is dead is about as laughable as those who said the Democratic Party was dead after the Republicans gained control of Congress.

And for those of you who think we will see a new third party emerge from all of this, think again. We do not have a parliamentary form of government where coalitions can be built between parties. Splitting the Republican Party would leave the Democratic Party in control permanently, and that is exactly why it won't happen.

I predict that a movement for fiscal conservatism will take hold very soon, but probably not before 2012, and maybe not until 2016, but it is coming. Once the kids of the baby boomers start understanding what our fuckups are going to cost them in the long term, they will move very quickly from the ideological left to the fiscally conservative right.

And then in 2 years we will realize the GOP is not the answer. They love to spend too, just on different things.

They don't like welfare, they like corporate welfare. And you guys defend it. Remember trickle down?

PS. Obama lowered your taxes, Bush didn't.

my check reflected a tax break when GWB did it.....so i dont know what you are mumbling about.....

My check reflects a tax break from Obama.

Did you get ahead on Bush's tax breaks or did the oil pumps eat it up?

How's your home value? 401K?

Didn't the price of everything go up?

How much is your share of the Iraq war?

Dude, bush only gave you a loan with your own money. You owe it back, with interest!!!!

You know you are worse off now than you were in 2000.

 

[Harry Dresden]

That's something to hope for jackazz "to silence the masses" that's just what we need you DUmb communist.

Willow....i love ya,but i gotta disagree....people who vote the party line,even if its bad for the country but good for me and my party,are not helping the bigger picture....and right now IMO,both parties are doing this,its a war between the parties,and the country is suffering,and as long as this goes on,the PEOPLE are going to continue to be kept down economically.....my solution....fire every fucking one of them,and get people who still can relate to what is happening in this country,to run things.....most politicians are so out of touch its pathetic,and know diddly squat about economics.....

That's why we voted for Obama. You still don't get it?

yea he is in touch Bobo....ok ok i get it....you just proved my point in my other post....YOUR FUCKING BRAINWASHED....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Now who on here ever said they like communism? I think it is funny that now you guys are attacking socialism. Ok, so we understoood growing up the evil of communism. I don't think it is a good way to go. But can you tell me what your beef is with socialism? Why do you care about corporate profits so much? Over in England,they still have a stock market, right? They have rich people in England, right? So what is wrong with the government running all the industries that are basically monopolies? Oil, Healthcare, Banks. Why do you prefer greedy bankers over a government that represents you? It would keep your healthcare and gas prices down. Please tell me why it is so much better to have for profit corporations running the banks/oil/healthcare.

PS. The GOP is dead because of your attitude. Who's responsible for you. Remember that question/thread? Well, this weekend I heard a lot of horror stories of people who lost their jobs or were denied healthcare because of pre existing conditions. I heard from people who's pay got cut. I heard from college grads who can't find work.

Basically, I think what you right wingers are ignoring is just how many people have been affected. You don't care about their particular situations. You say they are all just whining. So, when you say that about millions of people, and you are wrong, then you lose support. All those millions of people got fucked by the GOP. And until you admit it without trying to get the Dems to "share" in the blame, you will continue to lose, because we all know you are liars and wrong, about everything.

And your name calling is a joke. It has lost its affect you calling people communism. Means nothing coming from you because you don't know what you are talking about.

and of course Bobo now your gonna tell us how your party is ALWAYS right about everything AND of course how much they care about us....and cant forget....Dems do not lie to ya.....when they throw you that bone Bobo,take your time with it.....because you may not get another for a while,so make it last.....

Let me tell you the difference.

When Dems are in charge and corporations pay them to pass tax breaks to send jobs overseas, we call them and complain. And so they fear losing the next election and so maybe they don't fuck us.

When Republicans are in charge and the same thing happens, Republican voters defend giving corporations tax breaks for sending jobs overseas. So the Republican politicians have no problem fucking over the middle class, because their voters let them get away with shit like that.

For example, you probably bash unions I bet.

So there is no difference between the parties. It is the voters that are different. Republican voters are who suck.

Republican politicians would be for fixing healthcare and bringing jobs back home if they were important ussyes to their constituents. But you don't seen to care. You like the cheap goods you get from China. So it must not affect you. Theirfore, you feel like you are one of them. Trust me, you are voting outside of your pay grade.

BULL FUCKING SHIT.....now this proves to me you dont retain what posters post here Bobo....you dont know except for a few people here what their leanings are....do ya?....once again because you are BRAINWASHED... Pelosi must be marveling at her handi work....i know i am....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Just like Bush and the entire GOP. We were telling you guys for years that the GOP wasn't conservative.

And Powell actually is a conservative.

You do realize every true conservative with a brain left the GOP, right?

So why do you still belong?

WHy don't you stop with the generic terms. Conservative. How do you determine? I hope not the same way you guys determined that Clinton & Obama were liberals??? Because you were/are dead wrong.

well Bobo many true liberals with a brain left the dems long ago and became Ind.....so whats your excuse?....

Long ago? So you think the GOP is the same GOP that we had in the 90's?

Do you also think they are the same party back when Lincoln (R) freed the slaves?

So basically you are still suck in the 80's when the Dems were bad. Nice.

Hey, get with the program. The GOP in the 90's and this decade suck worse than the Dems ever did.

The S&L scandal in the 80's that McCain was involved in, Keating 5? Remember? That was the start of this Recession we are in now. Deregulations!!! And the other 4 guys were DEMOCRATS!!! All 4 were run out of politics for sucking ass!!! The only asshole left from that era is the guy you voted for in 2008. McCain!!

So dems today don't do what those dems did back in the 80's. But McCain continued for 30 years being pro deregulations. It was only until late 2008 that he flip flopped. And that didn't bother you? You are brainwashed.

so your telling me the Dems. are now GOOD?.....wait a sec. i gotta do this........ok im done....you dont retain nothing do ya.....in about 10 posts throughout this forum i have put McCain down as being someone i did not even consider voting for.....you cant remember nothing told to you Bobo because YOUR FUCKING BRAINWASHED.....and you say i am BRAINWASHED,i will vote for the candidate who is FOR the country,from ANY party.....but i bet you wouldnt.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

And then in 2 years we will realize the GOP is not the answer. They love to spend too, just on different things.

They don't like welfare, they like corporate welfare. And you guys defend it. Remember trickle down?

PS. Obama lowered your taxes, Bush didn't.

my check reflected a tax break when GWB did it.....so i dont know what you are mumbling about.....

My check reflects a tax break from Obama.

Did you get ahead on Bush's tax breaks or did the oil pumps eat it up?

How's your home value? 401K?

Didn't the price of everything go up?

How much is your share of the Iraq war?

Dude, bush only gave you a loan with your own money. You owe it back, with interest!!!!

You know you are worse off now than you were in 2000.

no im not....im much better off....i can go just about anywhere right now and buy just about anything i want.....and i dont expect to be doing any worse under OB....

oh and by the way....my 15 bucks a week that Obama so graciously gave me is being eaten up by his and your Liberal Dems in the Cal. assembly.....so whats difference between Obamas tax break and Bush's?....if they both got eaten up....

 

[sealybobo]

You simply have been brainwashed to think liberals are evil, so really you don't pay attention at all.

this coming from a guy who is so brainwashed himself,that he thinks Conservatives are evil and are all liars.....and Bobo dont tell me im wrong ....cause in your posts you at least give me the strong impression that if a right leaner says something,its gotta be a lie,but if a left leaner says it,its no doubt the truth....there you have it....

Not conservatives but Republicans. Don't get them confused.

The problem with righties is you just don't realize that your party doesn't deliver what they promise.

And I told someone else earlier that it isn't the GOP politicians that suck, its the voters. Instead of stopping your party from doing bad shit to this country, you defend it. The perfect example is sending jobs overseas. You love the cheap goods, so fuck the American wages/jobs, right?

Did I realize Clinton did about 5 really bad things that I am not happy with? Not at the time. I was too busy fighting the Newts of the world. But keep in mind that all the bad shit he did, it was caving into the GOP/Corporations. Deregulations, NAFTA, changed bankruptsy laws, etc.

So you should love him for those things, because he was acting just like a Republican.

And you can't even get yourself to admit that Clinton was more fiscally conservative than Bush, Bush & Reagan.

 

[Harry Dresden]

The problem with righties is you just don't realize that your party doesn't deliver what they promise.

And I told someone else earlier that it isn't the GOP politicians that suck, its the voters. Instead of stopping your party from doing bad shit to this country, you defend it. The perfect example is sending jobs overseas. You love the cheap goods, so fuck the American wages/jobs, right?

so since the Democratic party in California has not delivered what they promised out here,and has in fact KILLED this state....the same applies to them ...right?....

their education and immigration policies being the example......i cant wait for you to defend them.....

 

[sealybobo]

and of course Bobo now your gonna tell us how your party is ALWAYS right about everything AND of course how much they care about us....and cant forget....Dems do not lie to ya.....when they throw you that bone Bobo,take your time with it.....because you may not get another for a while,so make it last.....

Let me tell you the difference.

When Dems are in charge and corporations pay them to pass tax breaks to send jobs overseas, we call them and complain. And so they fear losing the next election and so maybe they don't fuck us.

When Republicans are in charge and the same thing happens, Republican voters defend giving corporations tax breaks for sending jobs overseas. So the Republican politicians have no problem fucking over the middle class, because their voters let them get away with shit like that.

For example, you probably bash unions I bet.

So there is no difference between the parties. It is the voters that are different. Republican voters are who suck.

Republican politicians would be for fixing healthcare and bringing jobs back home if they were important ussyes to their constituents. But you don't seen to care. You like the cheap goods you get from China. So it must not affect you. Theirfore, you feel like you are one of them. Trust me, you are voting outside of your pay grade.

BULL FUCKING SHIT.....now this proves to me you dont retain what posters post here Bobo....you dont know except for a few people here what their leanings are....do ya?....once again because you are BRAINWASHED... Pelosi must be marveling at her handi work....i know i am....

What about this? When Dems are in charge and corporations pay them to pass tax breaks to send jobs overseas, we call them and complain.

But you don't. And there lies the difference in the two parties. Its not the politicians. Its the voters. I care about American wages, you care about cheap goods.

Now do you see? You are the problem. We knew from day one that Bush was anti labor. You argued with us. In fact, you argued every issue for GOP. GLobal warming, wars, torture, unfair tax cuts that don't work, wiretapping, politicizing every branch of government, sending jobs overseas.

Of course the GOP are going to bend over for corporations when their constituents are ok with it.

If the Dems did that, we wouldn't show up for them on election day.

But your party can suck ass and you guys still show up in droves.

Get it? It is you republican voters that suck.

Democrats have to sneak around if they want to be in bed with the corporations. Look at Dodd. He tried to slip AIG their bonus' in the bailout. Republicans are proud to give CEO's bonus' for failure.

Just mention limiting CEO compensation to $5 million max a year and see how they/you react.

 

[sealybobo]

my check reflected a tax break when GWB did it.....so i dont know what you are mumbling about.....

My check reflects a tax break from Obama.

Did you get ahead on Bush's tax breaks or did the oil pumps eat it up?

How's your home value? 401K?

Didn't the price of everything go up?

How much is your share of the Iraq war?

Dude, bush only gave you a loan with your own money. You owe it back, with interest!!!!

You know you are worse off now than you were in 2000.

no im not....im much better off....i can go just about anywhere right now and buy just about anything i want.....and i dont expect to be doing any worse under OB....

oh and by the way....my 15 bucks a week that Obama so graciously gave me is being eaten up by his and your Liberal Dems in the Cal. assembly.....so whats difference between Obamas tax break and Bush's?....if they both got eaten up....

Arnold is raising your taxes?

 

[caterpillar]

Colin Powell is stepping forward to speak for the moderates in the Republican party. After being slammed by Cheney and Rush, Rove took a shot at him too. Now Powell is emerging as the voice of what remains of moderate Republicans.

It appears that much of the hard right is pushing away more centered members of the party and the moderates, even high profile moderates, are defecting. The numbers of self identified Republicans are extremely low, the election lost, both houses and the Presidency. There is no apparent party leader other than a talk show host that has no aspirations to office.

Will the party broaden it's base, as many observers say they must? Can the republicans be a viable party if they do not expand the base? If they don't, will a third party emerge or will the Democrats keep power simply by default?

ALERT: Democrats ASSIGN posters to various forums to restate their party line propaganda. Thus you get the same or similar type posts from forum to forum, with the same canned message. The "Republicans are falling apart" message is to be found on nearly any forum these days in virtually the same wording and offering the same solution: Republicans must become liberal, at least on so-called social issues, otherwise they will not be a viable opposition party, and "the country needs two parties."

Right, just like the "opposition" parties in the USSR were designed to make the Communists look less totalitarian. The US doesn't need two left wing parties, and no the GOP will only "disappear" if it continues to become more and more liberal, which is precisely why the canned disinformation campaign is being routed through all the mainstream talkshows and all the internet forums by Democratic operatives.

DON'T BE FOOLED BY THIS, ITS AN ORCHESTRATED CAMPAIGN, NOTHING MORE.

 

[sealybobo]

The problem with righties is you just don't realize that your party doesn't deliver what they promise.

And I told someone else earlier that it isn't the GOP politicians that suck, its the voters. Instead of stopping your party from doing bad shit to this country, you defend it. The perfect example is sending jobs overseas. You love the cheap goods, so fuck the American wages/jobs, right?

so since the Democratic party in California has not delivered what they promised out here,and has in fact KILLED this state....the same applies to them ...right?....

their education and immigration policies being the example......i cant wait for you to defend them.....

I don't know enough about Cali to speak. All I know is the GOP tried blaming our Democratic governor as they were sending all our manufacturing jobs overseas. So I suspect you have a right wing slant on whats happening in Cali.

Just because the voters in California are liberal, doesn't mean the corporations are too.

Companies hire illegals for sub par wages. This is anti middle class. And they don't insure them. So if they get sick, taxpayers pick up the tab.

Socialize the losses and privatize the profits.

The GOP is split on this. Half of you are Minute Men who want illegals out, and the other half want the cheap labor.

And we already know that Bush/the GOP tried to open up the borders so Mexican truckers can come into the USA. That's anti labor. And the unions are complaining. And they endorse the Dems. So maybe you should tell the unions if you know something they don't.

My guess is you have a right wing spin on whats going on in Cali. You should move to a red state. I hear they take in more federal tax dollars than they pay out.

 

[caterpillar]

I find it a dangerous evolution. What if the republicans become a radical right party that doesn't get the votes it needs to survive? Will the US turn into a 1-party system?

Remember that latino immigrants (that become legal citizens) will keep increasing the strength of the democratic party ...

Ha, here's another example. Anyone who isn't liberal on so-called "social issues" is "radical right" and "we need two parties." Why do we need two far left parties, sir? That's right, because your handlers told you to post this drivel talking point on every message board on the net!

 

[sealybobo]

Colin Powell is stepping forward to speak for the moderates in the Republican party. After being slammed by Cheney and Rush, Rove took a shot at him too. Now Powell is emerging as the voice of what remains of moderate Republicans.

It appears that much of the hard right is pushing away more centered members of the party and the moderates, even high profile moderates, are defecting. The numbers of self identified Republicans are extremely low, the election lost, both houses and the Presidency. There is no apparent party leader other than a talk show host that has no aspirations to office.

Will the party broaden it's base, as many observers say they must? Can the republicans be a viable party if they do not expand the base? If they don't, will a third party emerge or will the Democrats keep power simply by default?

ALERT: Democrats ASSIGN posters to various forums to restate their party line propaganda. Thus you get the same or similar type posts from forum to forum, with the same canned message. The "Republicans are falling apart" message is to be found on nearly any forum these days in virtually the same wording and offering the same solution: Republicans must become liberal, at least on so-called social issues, otherwise they will not be a viable opposition party, and "the country needs two parties."

Right, just like the "opposition" parties in the USSR were designed to make the Communists look less totalitarian. The US doesn't need two left wing parties, and no the GOP will only "disappear" if it continues to become more and more liberal, which is precisely why the canned disinformation campaign is being routed through all the mainstream talkshows and all the internet forums by Democratic operatives.

DON'T BE FOOLED BY THIS, ITS AN ORCHESTRATED CAMPAIGN, NOTHING MORE.

You're paranoid because you know this is what the corporate media does with news.

We aren't that organized.

Do you realize there are no more Republicans in the north east?

How bad do things have to get for your party before you realize?

SHIT! Just look how bad the economy got before any GOP'ers would admit we had a problem. So I suspect they won't acknowledge the party itself is in trouble until 2016 or beyond.

 

[Sweet Willy]

Colin Powell is stepping forward to speak for the moderates in the Republican party. After being slammed by Cheney and Rush, Rove took a shot at him too. Now Powell is emerging as the voice of what remains of moderate Republicans.

It appears that much of the hard right is pushing away more centered members of the party and the moderates, even high profile moderates, are defecting. The numbers of self identified Republicans are extremely low, the election lost, both houses and the Presidency. There is no apparent party leader other than a talk show host that has no aspirations to office.

Will the party broaden it's base, as many observers say they must? Can the republicans be a viable party if they do not expand the base? If they don't, will a third party emerge or will the Democrats keep power simply by default?

ALERT: Democrats ASSIGN posters to various forums to restate their party line propaganda. Thus you get the same or similar type posts from forum to forum, with the same canned message. The "Republicans are falling apart" message is to be found on nearly any forum these days in virtually the same wording and offering the same solution: Republicans must become liberal, at least on so-called social issues, otherwise they will not be a viable opposition party, and "the country needs two parties."

Right, just like the "opposition" parties in the USSR were designed to make the Communists look less totalitarian. The US doesn't need two left wing parties, and no the GOP will only "disappear" if it continues to become more and more liberal, which is precisely why the canned disinformation campaign is being routed through all the mainstream talkshows and all the internet forums by Democratic operatives.

DON'T BE FOOLED BY THIS, ITS AN ORCHESTRATED CAMPAIGN, NOTHING MORE.

We are coming for you! Be afraid, be very afraid. Me and my dog have orchestrated this conspiracy from the depth and darkness of my spare bedroom! He is a fairly scary dog and sheds a lot.

We do have partners in this. A reclusive, retired deli manager with 6 cats. We don't work too closely on account of the dog and the cats. But we are POWERFUL!

You're onto us. We didn't think you would be so intelligent.

 

[Sweet Willy]

Colin Powell is stepping forward to speak for the moderates in the Republican party. After being slammed by Cheney and Rush, Rove took a shot at him too. Now Powell is emerging as the voice of what remains of moderate Republicans.

It appears that much of the hard right is pushing away more centered members of the party and the moderates, even high profile moderates, are defecting. The numbers of self identified Republicans are extremely low, the election lost, both houses and the Presidency. There is no apparent party leader other than a talk show host that has no aspirations to office.

Will the party broaden it's base, as many observers say they must? Can the republicans be a viable party if they do not expand the base? If they don't, will a third party emerge or will the Democrats keep power simply by default?

ALERT: Democrats ASSIGN posters to various forums to restate their party line propaganda. Thus you get the same or similar type posts from forum to forum, with the same canned message. The "Republicans are falling apart" message is to be found on nearly any forum these days in virtually the same wording and offering the same solution: Republicans must become liberal, at least on so-called social issues, otherwise they will not be a viable opposition party, and "the country needs two parties."

Right, just like the "opposition" parties in the USSR were designed to make the Communists look less totalitarian. The US doesn't need two left wing parties, and no the GOP will only "disappear" if it continues to become more and more liberal, which is precisely why the canned disinformation campaign is being routed through all the mainstream talkshows and all the internet forums by Democratic operatives.

DON'T BE FOOLED BY THIS, ITS AN ORCHESTRATED CAMPAIGN, NOTHING MORE.

You're paranoid because you know this is what the corporate media does with news.

We aren't that organized.

Do you realize there are no more Republicans in the north east?

How bad do things have to get for your party before you realize?

SHIT! Just look how bad the economy got before any GOP'ers would admit we had a problem. So I suspect they won't acknowledge the party itself is in trouble until 2016 or beyond.

Red Rodger, Red Rodger, the blue cow has jumped over the moon. I repeat, the blue cow has jumped over the moon.

 

[oreo]

The problem with righties is you just don't realize that your party doesn't deliver what they promise.

And I told someone else earlier that it isn't the GOP politicians that suck, its the voters. Instead of stopping your party from doing bad shit to this country, you defend it. The perfect example is sending jobs overseas. You love the cheap goods, so fuck the American wages/jobs, right?

so since the Democratic party in California has not delivered what they promised out here,and has in fact KILLED this state....the same applies to them ...right?....

their education and immigration policies being the example......i cant wait for you to defend them.....

I don't know enough about Cali to speak. All I know is the GOP tried blaming our Democratic governor as they were sending all our manufacturing jobs overseas. So I suspect you have a right wing slant on whats happening in Cali.

Just because the voters in California are liberal, doesn't mean the corporations are too.

Companies hire illegals for sub par wages. This is anti middle class. And they don't insure them. So if they get sick, taxpayers pick up the tab.

Socialize the losses and privatize the profits.

The GOP is split on this. Half of you are Minute Men who want illegals out, and the other half want the cheap labor.

And we already know that Bush/the GOP tried to open up the borders so Mexican truckers can come into the USA. That's anti labor. And the unions are complaining. And they endorse the Dems. So maybe you should tell the unions if you know something they don't.

My guess is you have a right wing spin on whats going on in Cali. You should move to a red state. I hear they take in more federal tax dollars than they pay out.

Illegals have been a major budget breaker in California along with special interest groups. It's been fully loaded democrat legislatures over the decades that have put California on the brink of bankrupsty. "They can't say NO to spending."

As far as comparing the sympathy to illegal workers--here is Nancy Pelosi's statement on them--basically giving them a "safe haven" in San Francisco. So your comparison of Mexicans driving trucks through our country versus taking jobs--getting on the taxpayer social welfare programs--are extremely short sited. Democrats will do anything to keep the Latin American voting block--even while screwing YOU--the people who continually vote for them.

Click on the below!

Pelosi Tells Illegal Immigrants That Work Site Raids are Un-American - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com

To add it was Bill Clinton that signed the NAFTA agreement with Mexico--not G.W. Bush? It was also during the Clinton admininstration when most jobs in manufacturing went overseas. BUT--California being the 2nd highest taxed state in the union--it's of no wonder to me that corporations would be looking elsewhere to set up operations.

 

[editec]

I agree with you Newby. Give the democrats enough rope and they will hang themselves, the republicans need to stick with their base and their motto of God, Country and Liberty. And stick to their core belief of less government which means less taxes, self reliance which means more personal responsibility. Less government is the bastion of freedom.

Actually I agree with that, too.

The Republican party should stick to the partisan rhetoric which has worked so well for it in the past.

That rhetoric will come back into favor, eventually.

Right now everything R is somewhat out of favor, thanks to Bush II.

What really might kill the R party is if enough Rs wake up and realize their rhetoric and their pactions are significantly different beasties.

Then the Rs will go the way of the Whigs and likely, many of you who are Republicans in spirit, but no longer in fact will find that party which DOES both say one thing and do it, too.

The rank and files Ds, however, are not at that that state of disgust with their party which I think many Rs are already with theirs.

 

[elvis]

Colin Powell is stepping forward to speak for the moderates in the Republican party. After being slammed by Cheney and Rush, Rove took a shot at him too. Now Powell is emerging as the voice of what remains of moderate Republicans.

It appears that much of the hard right is pushing away more centered members of the party and the moderates, even high profile moderates, are defecting. The numbers of self identified Republicans are extremely low, the election lost, both houses and the Presidency. There is no apparent party leader other than a talk show host that has no aspirations to office.

Will the party broaden it's base, as many observers say they must? Can the republicans be a viable party if they do not expand the base? If they don't, will a third party emerge or will the Democrats keep power simply by default?

Analysis: Powell flap gets GOP to ask 'What kind of party are we?' - CNN.com

I remember this kind of talk in 2004 about the democrats.