The reality of global warming.

German Shepards, Crocodiles, Hyena's, The livers of the White Cacausian recolonialists
invaders, are all to be sacrificed!!, this is happening in certain uncharted areas of Africa!!
My word is bond.
 
OK, find me one scientific society that agrees with you. There are millions of scientists from every nation on earth that are studying many differant aspects on this problem, and the overwhelming consensus, as great as that on evolution, is that global warming is real, and the primary cause of it is the burning of fossil fuels.

But then there are pesky facts that seem to crop up, which their models are not accounting for:

DailyTech - Sea Ice Growing at Fastest Pace on Record

30 years of sea ice data. The red line indicates deviation from the seasonally-adjusted mean. (Source: Arctic Research Center, University of Illinois)
Rapid Rebound Brings Ice Back to Levels from the 1980s.

An abnormally cool Arctic is seeing dramatic changes to ice levels. In sharp contrast to the rapid melting seen last year, the amount of global sea ice has rebounded sharply and is now growing rapidly. The total amount of ice, which set a record low value last year, grew in October at the fastest pace since record-keeping began in 1979.

The actual amount of ice area varies seasonally from about 16 to 23 million square kilometers. However, the mean anomaly-- defined as the difference between the current area and the seasonally-adjusted average-- changes much slower, and generally varies by only 2-3 million square kilometers....
 
But then there are pesky facts that seem to crop up, which their models are not accounting for:

DailyTech - Sea Ice Growing at Fastest Pace on Record

From your link:

Bill Chapman, a researcher with the Arctic Climate Center at the University of Illinois, says the rapid increase is "no big deal". He says that, while the Arctic has certainly been colder in recent months, the long-term decrease is still ongoing. Chapman, who predicts that sea ice will soon stop growing, sees nothing in the recent data to contradict predictions of global warming.
 
As I said, they have their models, won't consider other facts. Truly makes one lose faith in all reported 'peer reviewed science.'

Interesting that you should harp on models. For it is not models that I use as data for the evidence on global warming, but rather the real time evidence concerning temperatures worldwide. Over the last 50 years there has been a general warming everywhere, but particularly intense in the Artic.

The North Polar Cap, the Greenland Ice Cap, both are melting far more rapidly than even the most pessimistic model predicted. The permafrost is melting at an unexpectedly rapid rate, releasing both CO2 and CH4 into the atmosphere.
From Paleo-climatological studies, we know that once the GHGs from those sources surpass what we are putting into the atmosphere, the feedback effect will be out of any hope of control, and we are just along for the ride. And those studies tell very clearly where that ride ends. Major and minor extinctions.

As for the scientist not using all the facts in their models, have you ever bothered to read the reports on how the models are created? I really get tired of people that have never read a real peer reviewed report stating how stupid the scientists are. And posting it on the net! And being so stupid themselves as to not even get an inkling of the irony of that.
 
Whatever:

The world has never seen such freezing heat - Telegraph

The world has never seen such freezing heat
By Christopher Booker
Last Updated: 12:01am GMT 16/11/2008


A surreal scientific blunder last week raised a huge question mark about the temperature records that underpin the worldwide alarm over global warming. On Monday, Nasa's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), which is run by Al Gore's chief scientific ally, Dr James Hansen, and is one of four bodies responsible for monitoring global temperatures, announced that last month was the hottest October on record.

Read more from Christopher Booker
This was startling. Across the world there were reports of unseasonal snow and plummeting temperatures last month, from the American Great Plains to China, and from the Alps to New Zealand. China's official news agency reported that Tibet had suffered its "worst snowstorm ever". In the US, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration registered 63 local snowfall records and 115 lowest-ever temperatures for the month, and ranked it as only the 70th-warmest October in 114 years.

So what explained the anomaly? GISS's computerised temperature maps seemed to show readings across a large part of Russia had been up to 10 degrees higher than normal. But when expert readers of the two leading warming-sceptic blogs, Watts Up With That and Climate Audit, began detailed analysis of the GISS data they made an astonishing discovery. The reason for the freak figures was that scores of temperature records from Russia and elsewhere were not based on October readings at all. Figures from the previous month had simply been carried over and repeated two months running....
 
This Christopher Booker?


This week Richard Wilson's book Don't Get Fooled Again is published. It contains a fascinating chapter on Booker's claims about white asbestos. Since 2002, he has published 38 articles on this topic, and every one of them is wrong. He champions the work of John Bridle, who has described himself as "the world's foremost authority on asbestos science". Bridle has claimed to possess an honorary professorship from the Russian Academy of Sciences, to be a consultant to an institute at the University of Glamorgan, the chief asbestos consultant for an asbestos centre in Lisbon, and a consultant to Vale of Glamorgan trading standards department. None of these claims is true. Neither the institute at the University of Glamorgan nor the centre in Lisbon have ever existed. His only relationship with the Glamorgan trading standards department is to have been successfully prosecuted by it for claiming a qualification he does not possess.

None of this deters Mr Booker. Armed with Bridle's claims, for the past six years he has waged a campaign against asbestos science. White asbestos cement, he maintains "poses no measurable risk to health". He contends that "not a single case" of mesothelioma - the cancer caused by exposure to asbestos - "has ever been scientifically linked with asbestos cement". A paper commissioned by the UK's Health and Safety Executive, he says, "concluded that the risk from white asbestos is 'virtually zero'".
George Monbiot: The patron saint of charlatans is again spreading dangerous misinformation | Comment is free | The Guardian
 
Can someone explain just why there are reports of local weather and stories about asbestos in a thread about global climate change?

It is understood that some people still don't get the difference between local weather and global climate, but asbestos?

Should we discuss the price of yak butter in Tibet as a part of global climate change as well?
 
Because the same fellow that is a warming "sceptic" is also spreading lies concerning the affects of asbestos. Having had my best freind die of mesothelioma, and having worked with him in conditions where the exposure to asbestos was appalling, to say the least, I feel that anyone that would deny the much proven connections is the worse kind of charalatan. The definitive study was done in Britian in 1918. Just at the study that established the affects of CO2 as a greenhouse gas were done in 1896 by Svente Anrnhenius.

Just as Singer on this side of the pond is also a whore for the tobacco companies as well as big oil, I cannot help but believe, from his writing, that Booker is the same for corperations on that side of the pond.
 
Because the same fellow that is a warming "sceptic" is also spreading lies concerning the affects of asbestos. Having had my best freind die of mesothelioma, and having worked with him in conditions where the exposure to asbestos was appalling, to say the least, I feel that anyone that would deny the much proven connections is the worse kind of charalatan. The definitive study was done in Britian in 1918. Just at the study that established the affects of CO2 as a greenhouse gas were done in 1896 by Svente Anrnhenius.

Just as Singer on this side of the pond is also a whore for the tobacco companies as well as big oil, I cannot help but believe, from his writing, that Booker is the same for corperations on that side of the pond.

OK, I see now. The same charlatan who is denying science of global climate change is also denying the deleterious effects of asbestos. There is a connection after all.

And, since he is saying what some people want to hear, he is being promoted as an actual unbiased scientist.

Therefore, there is a global conspiracy among other people of science to promote a hoax and lead us into a world socialist government.

It's all very clear now. Where did I put that tinfoil hat? I think I might need it again.
 

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