The Real Reason the Debt Panel Failed.

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    It Failed because it was Designed to Fail.

    Were talking about an issue that goes to the very Core of the Ideological Beliefs of Both sides.

    The Democrats do not want to Touch Entitlements. They View them as their Greatest achievements, and untouchable. They want to protect the Entitlements as is, using Large Tax increases on the Rich and Business, and Cuts to Defense.

    The Republicans do not want to Raise Taxes on anyone, Especially the Rich and Business. They believe we can not sustain this spending, and that Entitlements must be reformed. They are also Not Big on Defense cuts in what they see as a very Dangerous time.

    A panel of 6 Hand Picked Republicans, and 6 Hand Picked Democrats was never going to be able to come to an agreement on something they are so fundamentally Opposed on. Unless there were real major Consequences if they Failed.

    The So called Trigger we were told about fails to be a Major Consequence as it does not take effect until 2013, and then only 68billion out of 1.2 Trillion that Year.

    Both Sides always knew that they would have essentially 2 Years before any real Major cuts to their Sacred Cows would actually happen.

    It was all a big shame. A Shell Game. It's a Punt, was a Punt, will be a punt.

    We just passed 15 Trillion in Debt and these silly fuck stains are talking about cuts that are a Loaded to the end of the next 10 Years and start out tiny.

    Rome continues to Burn people, But this time our leaders are not playing a Fucking Fidel, No these miserable Fucks are Pouring Fuel on the fire and Dancing around calling each other names.

    Every Single Incumbent in Every Election should have their ass handed to them. I don't care who ends up controlling what. we need to shake this shit up.

    lol

    Jesus it's maddening.
     
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    Throw them all out and start over!
     
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    I pretty much agree. When the last budget bill was passed that created the Super Committee option, I was pretty sure that it would go nowhere. Overall, I saw it as more of a GOP friendly option. All it really did was delay things and buy a little time. But it was definitely designed to fail, and both parties probably anticipated that and have been posturing since then hoping that they could pin the failure on the other side. But the GOP always stood to gain the most, because the automatic cuts such failure would create are more inclined toward the GOP position anyway.
     
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    Who cares that it failed? There were not going to make any real cuts. Even now there are no "real" cuts anyway. A "cut" (according to these morons) is a decrease in the automatic increase in spending. So let's "CUT" away. If our military is going to collapse without and automatic 8% increase in funding, well, so be it. We all know that there is plenty of fraud waste and abuse in every branch, dept, and agency of government....
     
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    Damn.

    To the point.

    That first sentence alone was worth the price of admission.
     
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    Newsflash: The Dems put ALL their "sacred cows" on the table.

    The Republicans didn't put the Bush Tax Cuts on the table, not ever.

    They wouldn't budge.

    All the polls have the public blaming Republicans for its failure.
     
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    I dunno... duh?

    Seriously, who didn't see this from the get go?
     
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    Then it was a success in the Dems eyes..... :clap2:
     
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    The Bush Tax Cuts are now GUARANTEED to expire, as was originally planned, wich the Cons were DESPERATELY trying to change and let them continue.

    I'd say it was a win for the Dems yes.

    Those blasted cuts are GONE!!

    YAAAAYYY!!!! :clap2: :clap2: :clap2:
     
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    Why should they be on the table? They weren't even mentioned during the debt limit increase debate. That was simply an arbitrary demand introduced by Democrat scumbags who didn't want a deal under any circumstances.
     

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