The Real Problem Politicians Face If They are Republicans...

[candycorn]

1. no one smeared gingrich. gingrich got what he deserve for leading the impeachment against bill clinton for less than his own actions.

2. other christians were concerned about romney being a mormon. no one "smeared" him.

3. trump is a vile bigot and an embarrassment to the GOP who people have every reason to judge as such.

and the fact that you object to him rightfully being called what he is... is your problem. it doesn't mean republicans are set upon.

of course, you're projecting rightwingnut treatment of democrats onto us... typical winger behavior.

you won't win until you stop picking extremist candidates who made anyone who isn't an old white christian male gag.

1. Clinton didn't get into trouble for screwing around on Hillary. Clinton got into trouble for lying and trying to avoid doing the proper thing like admitting fault and apologizing to a victim he made a sexual advancement towards.

2. How can anybody with even the slightest sense of logic say that the Democrats didn't smear Romney; blaming him because an employee lost a spouse to illness while she worked at a company he was in charge of; going on vacation with his dog carrier tied to his roof; going all the way back to his high school days where he played a harmless prank on a fellow classmate? Christians didn't smear him, the Commies and Liberals did.

3. Talk about extremists, your number 2 candidate is an admitted Socialist. But unlike most other Democrats, at least he's honest about it.

1. True.
2. Romney wasn't smeared. The ad you're talking about (that never ran) actually is what happens when large corporations take over smaller ones; workers are quite often downsized, they lose their insurance and if you're not insured in this day and age, you are out of luck medically. Meanwhile, companies like Bain seek to please investors only. Is it wrong or illegal? No. Is it palatable to the American public. No. If you're goal is to be thought of as an effective CEO, you'e doing great. If you're goal is to become President, cruelty doesn't play well. I think you guys will find that out if Trump is your nominee. As for the dog and the "harmless prank", typical stuff that happens during campaigns. All of it pales to calling Obama a Muslim and that he wasn't born in the US.

3. The #2 candidate is a zero factor.

For one, the woman in question had her own insurance if I remember correctly, so it had nothing to do with Romney's management of the company. Two, downsizing is a common practice when it comes to saving companies. Cut pay, layoff workers, eliminate benefits, take whatever steps are necessary to save the company. Would you rather see some workers lose their benefits or jobs or would you rather see the entire company close down and everybody lose their jobs and benefits?

Not arguing economics.

Selling the logic of necessary downsizing to guys who were downsized while asking for their vote is problematic.

DumBama a Muslim? Certainly that can be in question. His claim is that he's a Christian, but doesn't follow the Christian faith. Christians are strongly against abortion yet alone somebody that had the ability to make law promoting it.

Ridiculous argument backed up by nothing.

Backed up by nothing? What would you like me to back up?

I can't tell anybody's religion no more than you can. It's not like we register to a religion like we register to vote. I could say I'm Muslim, Jewish, Catholic and you would never know even if I attended a church or Mosque. Nobody knows how one believes in God if they believe at all, especially when it comes to politicians.

Christians being "strongly" against abortion or that bring a litmus test. His faith riding on a legal ruling 36 yrs before he became president is also silly.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

1. Clinton didn't get into trouble for screwing around on Hillary. Clinton got into trouble for lying and trying to avoid doing the proper thing like admitting fault and apologizing to a victim he made a sexual advancement towards.

2. How can anybody with even the slightest sense of logic say that the Democrats didn't smear Romney; blaming him because an employee lost a spouse to illness while she worked at a company he was in charge of; going on vacation with his dog carrier tied to his roof; going all the way back to his high school days where he played a harmless prank on a fellow classmate? Christians didn't smear him, the Commies and Liberals did.

3. Talk about extremists, your number 2 candidate is an admitted Socialist. But unlike most other Democrats, at least he's honest about it.

1. True.
2. Romney wasn't smeared. The ad you're talking about (that never ran) actually is what happens when large corporations take over smaller ones; workers are quite often downsized, they lose their insurance and if you're not insured in this day and age, you are out of luck medically. Meanwhile, companies like Bain seek to please investors only. Is it wrong or illegal? No. Is it palatable to the American public. No. If you're goal is to be thought of as an effective CEO, you'e doing great. If you're goal is to become President, cruelty doesn't play well. I think you guys will find that out if Trump is your nominee. As for the dog and the "harmless prank", typical stuff that happens during campaigns. All of it pales to calling Obama a Muslim and that he wasn't born in the US.

3. The #2 candidate is a zero factor.

For one, the woman in question had her own insurance if I remember correctly, so it had nothing to do with Romney's management of the company. Two, downsizing is a common practice when it comes to saving companies. Cut pay, layoff workers, eliminate benefits, take whatever steps are necessary to save the company. Would you rather see some workers lose their benefits or jobs or would you rather see the entire company close down and everybody lose their jobs and benefits?

Not arguing economics.

Selling the logic of necessary downsizing to guys who were downsized while asking for their vote is problematic.

DumBama a Muslim? Certainly that can be in question. His claim is that he's a Christian, but doesn't follow the Christian faith. Christians are strongly against abortion yet alone somebody that had the ability to make law promoting it.

Ridiculous argument backed up by nothing.

Backed up by nothing? What would you like me to back up?

I can't tell anybody's religion no more than you can. It's not like we register to a religion like we register to vote. I could say I'm Muslim, Jewish, Catholic and you would never know even if I attended a church or Mosque. Nobody knows how one believes in God if they believe at all, especially when it comes to politicians.

Christians being "strongly" against abortion or that bring a litmus test. His faith riding on a legal ruling 36 yrs before he became president is also silly.

That's not what Christians are basing their beliefs on. They don't care what our SC or politicians think about the matter. To them, abortion is murder and you are a sinner and punished by God for murder.

I don't care what DumBama believes or not. But to say his religion should not be questioned is ridiculous.

 

[candycorn]

1. True.
2. Romney wasn't smeared. The ad you're talking about (that never ran) actually is what happens when large corporations take over smaller ones; workers are quite often downsized, they lose their insurance and if you're not insured in this day and age, you are out of luck medically. Meanwhile, companies like Bain seek to please investors only. Is it wrong or illegal? No. Is it palatable to the American public. No. If you're goal is to be thought of as an effective CEO, you'e doing great. If you're goal is to become President, cruelty doesn't play well. I think you guys will find that out if Trump is your nominee. As for the dog and the "harmless prank", typical stuff that happens during campaigns. All of it pales to calling Obama a Muslim and that he wasn't born in the US.

3. The #2 candidate is a zero factor.

For one, the woman in question had her own insurance if I remember correctly, so it had nothing to do with Romney's management of the company. Two, downsizing is a common practice when it comes to saving companies. Cut pay, layoff workers, eliminate benefits, take whatever steps are necessary to save the company. Would you rather see some workers lose their benefits or jobs or would you rather see the entire company close down and everybody lose their jobs and benefits?

Not arguing economics.

Selling the logic of necessary downsizing to guys who were downsized while asking for their vote is problematic.

DumBama a Muslim? Certainly that can be in question. His claim is that he's a Christian, but doesn't follow the Christian faith. Christians are strongly against abortion yet alone somebody that had the ability to make law promoting it.

Ridiculous argument backed up by nothing.

Backed up by nothing? What would you like me to back up?

I can't tell anybody's religion no more than you can. It's not like we register to a religion like we register to vote. I could say I'm Muslim, Jewish, Catholic and you would never know even if I attended a church or Mosque. Nobody knows how one believes in God if they believe at all, especially when it comes to politicians.

Christians being "strongly" against abortion or that bring a litmus test. His faith riding on a legal ruling 36 yrs before he became president is also silly.

That's not what Christians are basing their beliefs on. They don't care what our SC or politicians think about the matter. To them, abortion is murder and you are a sinner and punished by God for murder.

I don't care what DumBama believes or not. But to say his religion should not be questioned is ridiculous.

Weak argument Again backed up by nothing.

Obama couldn't overturn SC decisions on his own anyway if he wanted to.

As for Presidential religion.,..hell anyone can pick something a president did that was not exactly angelic,

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

For one, the woman in question had her own insurance if I remember correctly, so it had nothing to do with Romney's management of the company. Two, downsizing is a common practice when it comes to saving companies. Cut pay, layoff workers, eliminate benefits, take whatever steps are necessary to save the company. Would you rather see some workers lose their benefits or jobs or would you rather see the entire company close down and everybody lose their jobs and benefits?

Not arguing economics.

Selling the logic of necessary downsizing to guys who were downsized while asking for their vote is problematic.

DumBama a Muslim? Certainly that can be in question. His claim is that he's a Christian, but doesn't follow the Christian faith. Christians are strongly against abortion yet alone somebody that had the ability to make law promoting it.

Ridiculous argument backed up by nothing.

Backed up by nothing? What would you like me to back up?

I can't tell anybody's religion no more than you can. It's not like we register to a religion like we register to vote. I could say I'm Muslim, Jewish, Catholic and you would never know even if I attended a church or Mosque. Nobody knows how one believes in God if they believe at all, especially when it comes to politicians.

Christians being "strongly" against abortion or that bring a litmus test. His faith riding on a legal ruling 36 yrs before he became president is also silly.

That's not what Christians are basing their beliefs on. They don't care what our SC or politicians think about the matter. To them, abortion is murder and you are a sinner and punished by God for murder.

I don't care what DumBama believes or not. But to say his religion should not be questioned is ridiculous.

Weak argument Again backed up by nothing.

Obama couldn't overturn SC decisions on his own anyway if he wanted to.

As for Presidential religion.,..hell anyone can pick something a president did that was not exactly angelic,

DumBama can't overturn a SC decision, but that doesn't mean he can't support it no more than Republicans can be against it.

 

[bripat9643]

Yes it is a double standard. That double standard works both ways though - the right is always quick to call out the left even on things their own candidates do or say. Hell, we have a single payer backer running as the lead for the republicans right now and the right hates Obama for even working in that direction.

There is an issue thought when these same politicians claim to be 'family values' politicians. It is akin to those democrats calling for grater taxes on everyone and then being caught as tax cheats. Dishonest.

The left controls the media, so it really doesn't matter what the right does. Unless the media treats both sides equally, the game is rigged. It doesn't work both ways.

 

[rightwinger]

Yes it is a double standard. That double standard works both ways though - the right is always quick to call out the left even on things their own candidates do or say. Hell, we have a single payer backer running as the lead for the republicans right now and the right hates Obama for even working in that direction.

There is an issue thought when these same politicians claim to be 'family values' politicians. It is akin to those democrats calling for grater taxes on everyone and then being caught as tax cheats. Dishonest.

The left controls the media, so it really doesn't matter what the right does. Unless the media treats both sides equally, the game is rigged. It doesn't work both ways.

The left controls Fox, Breitbart, Rightwing radio, Drudge and the entire interweb?

 

[bripat9643]

Yes it is a double standard. That double standard works both ways though - the right is always quick to call out the left even on things their own candidates do or say. Hell, we have a single payer backer running as the lead for the republicans right now and the right hates Obama for even working in that direction.

There is an issue thought when these same politicians claim to be 'family values' politicians. It is akin to those democrats calling for grater taxes on everyone and then being caught as tax cheats. Dishonest.

The left controls the media, so it really doesn't matter what the right does. Unless the media treats both sides equally, the game is rigged. It doesn't work both ways.

The left controls Fox, Breitbart, Rightwing radio, Drudge and the entire interweb?

Yeah, Breitbert and Drudge are right up there with NBC, ABC, CBS and CNN. The Interweb is overloaded with leftwing propaganda sites.

 

[jillian]

Of course it's not good enough. I'm no Romney fan, but look at his accomplishments in life: A guy who never used recreational narcotics, tobacco or alcohol. A family man who again, never cheated on his wife. A humanitarian who spent his early years helping others. A successful man who became a self-made millionaire. A non-partisan man who voted for and implemented many liberal policies. A generous man who donated millions to his religion and various other charities. So what did liberals have to say about his legacy? He tied his dog cage to the roof of his car when he took the family on vacation.

It's nothing new. Christian conservatives went for Reagan, who rarely went to church, over Carter, a born-again Christian who went all the time.

Reagan felt that his attendance at services would be disruptive to the other church goers, so opted to stay home during his presidency. I can't remember the last time I've heard of DumBama going to church. Nobody ever makes a big deal out of it because like Reagan, he probably figured it would be too much of a problem for the public.

Come on Ray......you really believe that shit about Reagan?

Presidents have attended services for 200 years if they wanted to attend. There is no indication Reagan was a churchgoer before or after he was president

Ronald Reagan on Why He Does Not Attend Church in First Reagan-Mondale Presidential Debate
Ronald Reagan
October 7, 1984

I have gone to church regularly all my life, and I started to here in Washington. And now, in the position I hold and in the world in which we live, where Embassies do get blown up in Beirut [...] but I pose a threat to several hundred people if I go to church. I know the threats that are made against me. We all know the possibility of terrorism. We have seen the barricades that have had to be built around the White House. And, therefore, I don't feel—and my minister knows this and supports me in this position—I don't feel that I have a right to go to church, knowing that my being there could cause something of the kind that we have seen in other places, in Beirut, for example. And I miss going to church, but I think the Lord understands.

Ronald Reagan on Why He Does Not Attend Church in First Reagan-Mondale Presidential Debate

So Reagan threw a bone to the religious right of his party to explain his lack of Chirch attendance

and gave them a seat at the table... and now they won't STFU

 

[rightwinger]

Yes it is a double standard. That double standard works both ways though - the right is always quick to call out the left even on things their own candidates do or say. Hell, we have a single payer backer running as the lead for the republicans right now and the right hates Obama for even working in that direction.

There is an issue thought when these same politicians claim to be 'family values' politicians. It is akin to those democrats calling for grater taxes on everyone and then being caught as tax cheats. Dishonest.

The left controls the media, so it really doesn't matter what the right does. Unless the media treats both sides equally, the game is rigged. It doesn't work both ways.

The left controls Fox, Breitbart, Rightwing radio, Drudge and the entire interweb?

Yeah, Breitbert and Drudge are right up there with NBC, ABC, CBS and CNN. The Interweb is overloaded with leftwing propaganda sites.

You have your choice of news sources

More than at any time in history

 

[bripat9643]

Yes it is a double standard. That double standard works both ways though - the right is always quick to call out the left even on things their own candidates do or say. Hell, we have a single payer backer running as the lead for the republicans right now and the right hates Obama for even working in that direction.

There is an issue thought when these same politicians claim to be 'family values' politicians. It is akin to those democrats calling for grater taxes on everyone and then being caught as tax cheats. Dishonest.

The left controls the media, so it really doesn't matter what the right does. Unless the media treats both sides equally, the game is rigged. It doesn't work both ways.

The left controls Fox, Breitbart, Rightwing radio, Drudge and the entire interweb?

Yeah, Breitbert and Drudge are right up there with NBC, ABC, CBS and CNN. The Interweb is overloaded with leftwing propaganda sites.

You have your choice of news sources

More than at any time in history

That doesn't alter the fact that a large portion of the population gets a steady diet of leftwing propaganda.

 

[rightwinger]

Yes it is a double standard. That double standard works both ways though - the right is always quick to call out the left even on things their own candidates do or say. Hell, we have a single payer backer running as the lead for the republicans right now and the right hates Obama for even working in that direction.

There is an issue thought when these same politicians claim to be 'family values' politicians. It is akin to those democrats calling for grater taxes on everyone and then being caught as tax cheats. Dishonest.

The left controls the media, so it really doesn't matter what the right does. Unless the media treats both sides equally, the game is rigged. It doesn't work both ways.

The left controls Fox, Breitbart, Rightwing radio, Drudge and the entire interweb?

Yeah, Breitbert and Drudge are right up there with NBC, ABC, CBS and CNN. The Interweb is overloaded with leftwing propaganda sites.

You have your choice of news sources

More than at any time in history

That doesn't alter the fact that a large portion of the population gets a steady diet of leftwing propaganda.

Conservatives do not seem to have difficulty finding the propaganda of their choice

 

[Auld Phart]

The left controls the media, so it really doesn't matter what the right does. Unless the media treats both sides equally, the game is rigged. It doesn't work both ways.

The left controls Fox, Breitbart, Rightwing radio, Drudge and the entire interweb?

Yeah, Breitbert and Drudge are right up there with NBC, ABC, CBS and CNN. The Interweb is overloaded with leftwing propaganda sites.

You have your choice of news sources

More than at any time in history

That doesn't alter the fact that a large portion of the population gets a steady diet of leftwing propaganda.

Conservatives do not seem to have difficulty finding the propaganda of their choice

Conservatives do not seem to have difficulty finding the propaganda of their choice

do liberals?

 

[rightwinger]

The left controls Fox, Breitbart, Rightwing radio, Drudge and the entire interweb?

Yeah, Breitbert and Drudge are right up there with NBC, ABC, CBS and CNN. The Interweb is overloaded with leftwing propaganda sites.

You have your choice of news sources

More than at any time in history

That doesn't alter the fact that a large portion of the population gets a steady diet of leftwing propaganda.

Conservatives do not seem to have difficulty finding the propaganda of their choice

Conservatives do not seem to have difficulty finding the propaganda of their choice

do liberals?

 

[bripat9643]

The left controls the media, so it really doesn't matter what the right does. Unless the media treats both sides equally, the game is rigged. It doesn't work both ways.

The left controls Fox, Breitbart, Rightwing radio, Drudge and the entire interweb?

Yeah, Breitbert and Drudge are right up there with NBC, ABC, CBS and CNN. The Interweb is overloaded with leftwing propaganda sites.

You have your choice of news sources

More than at any time in history

That doesn't alter the fact that a large portion of the population gets a steady diet of leftwing propaganda.

Conservatives do not seem to have difficulty finding the propaganda of their choice

It doesn't matter what conservatives are able to find. What matter is what the vast mass of ignorant boobs subject themselves to on a daily basis.

 

[rightwinger]

The left controls Fox, Breitbart, Rightwing radio, Drudge and the entire interweb?

Yeah, Breitbert and Drudge are right up there with NBC, ABC, CBS and CNN. The Interweb is overloaded with leftwing propaganda sites.

You have your choice of news sources

More than at any time in history

That doesn't alter the fact that a large portion of the population gets a steady diet of leftwing propaganda.

Conservatives do not seem to have difficulty finding the propaganda of their choice

It doesn't matter what conservatives are able to find. What matter is what the vast mass of ignorant boobs subject themselves to on a daily basis.

Yes it does matter

People have choices on their source of news

More now than at any time in history

 

[bripat9643]

Yeah, Breitbert and Drudge are right up there with NBC, ABC, CBS and CNN. The Interweb is overloaded with leftwing propaganda sites.

You have your choice of news sources

More than at any time in history

That doesn't alter the fact that a large portion of the population gets a steady diet of leftwing propaganda.

Conservatives do not seem to have difficulty finding the propaganda of their choice

It doesn't matter what conservatives are able to find. What matter is what the vast mass of ignorant boobs subject themselves to on a daily basis.

Yes it does matter

People have choices on their source of news

More now than at any time in history

The bottom line is that a large percentage of the population still watches the major leftwing propaganda outlets, NBC, ABC, CBS, and CNN. That means the deck is stacked against Republican candidates. Yet, you numskills still don't win all the time. It's something of a miracle, really.

 

[rightwinger]

You have your choice of news sources

More than at any time in history

That doesn't alter the fact that a large portion of the population gets a steady diet of leftwing propaganda.

Conservatives do not seem to have difficulty finding the propaganda of their choice

It doesn't matter what conservatives are able to find. What matter is what the vast mass of ignorant boobs subject themselves to on a daily basis.

Yes it does matter

People have choices on their source of news

More now than at any time in history

The bottom line is that a large percentage of the population still watches the major leftwing propaganda outlets, NBC, ABC, CBS, and CNN. That means the deck is stacked against Republican candidates. Yet, you numskills still don't win all the time. It's something of a miracle, really.

The bottom line is that people can choose what they watch

The fact that they reject Republican propaganda is a testament to their integrity

 

[bripat9643]

That doesn't alter the fact that a large portion of the population gets a steady diet of leftwing propaganda.

Conservatives do not seem to have difficulty finding the propaganda of their choice

It doesn't matter what conservatives are able to find. What matter is what the vast mass of ignorant boobs subject themselves to on a daily basis.

Yes it does matter

People have choices on their source of news

More now than at any time in history

The bottom line is that a large percentage of the population still watches the major leftwing propaganda outlets, NBC, ABC, CBS, and CNN. That means the deck is stacked against Republican candidates. Yet, you numskills still don't win all the time. It's something of a miracle, really.

The bottom line is that people can choose what they watch

The fact that they reject Republican propaganda is a testament to their integrity

No, that isn't the bottom line. The subject of this thread is how the deck is stacked against Republicans. The don't "reject Republican propaganda." They are subjected to a torrent of leftwing propaganda, and most don't realize it.

 

[rightwinger]

Conservatives do not seem to have difficulty finding the propaganda of their choice

It doesn't matter what conservatives are able to find. What matter is what the vast mass of ignorant boobs subject themselves to on a daily basis.

Yes it does matter

People have choices on their source of news

More now than at any time in history

The bottom line is that a large percentage of the population still watches the major leftwing propaganda outlets, NBC, ABC, CBS, and CNN. That means the deck is stacked against Republican candidates. Yet, you numskills still don't win all the time. It's something of a miracle, really.

The bottom line is that people can choose what they watch

The fact that they reject Republican propaganda is a testament to their integrity

No, that isn't the bottom line. The subject of this thread is how the deck is stacked against Republicans. The don't "reject Republican propaganda." They are subjected to a torrent of leftwing propaganda, and most don't realize it.

The deck is stacked against Republicans because they no longer have the electoral votes

Can Any Republican Win 270 Electoral Votes in 2016 (Or Ever Again)? | RedState

Let me repeat, if only for the shock value – 246 votes out of 270 is 91 percent. That means the Democrat candidate needs to win only 24 more votes out of the remaining 292. (There are a total of 538 electoral votes.)

 

[FA_Q2]

Yes it is a double standard. That double standard works both ways though - the right is always quick to call out the left even on things their own candidates do or say. Hell, we have a single payer backer running as the lead for the republicans right now and the right hates Obama for even working in that direction.

There is an issue thought when these same politicians claim to be 'family values' politicians. It is akin to those democrats calling for grater taxes on everyone and then being caught as tax cheats. Dishonest.

The left controls the media, so it really doesn't matter what the right does. Unless the media treats both sides equally, the game is rigged. It doesn't work both ways.

The left controls Fox, Breitbart, Rightwing radio, Drudge and the entire interweb?

Yeah, Breitbert and Drudge are right up there with NBC, ABC, CBS and CNN. The Interweb is overloaded with leftwing propaganda sites.

Those are not but you suspiciously left out FOX - the largest of the alphabet soup.

The left no longer controls the media - there are plenty of right wing sources out there and they have a strong audience.

The problem is not that a single side controls the media - it is that the media is now openly biased and people only watch that which reinforces their chosen side. The sad result of this is 'news' that presents more lies and half-truths than actual facts. It is not a matter of the left 'controlling' media though.