The Real Effort Over Gun Control

[jtpr312]

A government that knows its population is armed is going to have to disarm it before it tries to extend its powers beyond what the majority will tolerate--and this serves as a definite warning sign.

Believe me, the government knows the population is armed. But why should we be armed with assault weapons? Such weapons wreak more terror and destruction than any benefit by way of defense against tyranny. The general population has no more need of assault weapons than they need bazookas. Are we supposed to have a bazooka in the home to defend against some perceived tyranny? If you can afford one, or afford a recoiless rifle, or a mortar even, you most certainly can have one in your home in this nation if you can pass the back ground checks needed to buy any other firearm. As for why should we be armed with semi-automatic rifles, which by EVERY defintion in the world except for the American democrat's definition are NOT assaut weapons, is because a population armed with .22's and shotguns is not a deterent to a tryrannical govt, as these weapons are next to useless when faced with an enemy armed with high powered, long range, high velocity, high capacity weapons. You trust the leaders of this nation that much? I certainly don't. But then again I'm not some head up my ass liberla that doesn't now the history of the hundreds of millions of people slaughtered by their own governments in just the last 50yrs of the 20th century, forget about the history of mankind.
And it seems to me that the people who actively fight tyranny as they see it are called terrorists. Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols thought they were fighting tyranny when they killed 168 people. Yeah, the Brits thought the Founders where terrorists also. The nazis thought the Resistance fighters where terrorists, along with the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto. The Chinese thought the students at Tienemen sq where terrorists. Pol Pot thought the intellectuals where terrorists, Stalin thought over 60,000,000 of his fellow Soviet citizens where terrorists. I could go on and on and on. Hell, some of us think the govt agents who incinerated 20 children, plus adults, at Waco or shot an unarmed woman holding nothing but her baby at Ruby Ridge to be terrorists.

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[PredFan]

Gun Control is not nor ever has been about protecting people. It is all about disarming everyone so that they are helpless.

umm.. if everyone were disarmed... then what would there be to be helpless against?

1. Gun toting criminals
2. The Government

 

[PredFan]

umm.. if everyone were disarmed... then what would there be to be helpless against?

If YOU were "disarmed", you wouldn't be able to type your drivel on your keyboard. I vote YES!

It's true drivel isn't it? I ran rings around you logically. Admit it.

You only did that in your mind. It took me less than a second to answer your reply.

 

[PredFan]

To those who believe that we need guns to "fight tyranny":

What ever do you mean by that? A gaggle of idiots with assault rifles slung across their shoulders IS tyranny, not the defenders against it. The second amendment calls LOUDLY for a well regulated militia. That's where assault weapons belong, not on the streets.

If you want to defend against some perceived tyranny, join the National Guard or the State Police. These folks are the real defenders against tyranny. They have proven it. It was National Guardsmen who protected Civil Rights marchers against the tyranny of idiot racists.

Do you see tyranny today? If so, where? because I believe that most of sane America is pretty much satisfied, except for the tyranny of the extremist who holds the view that he has some warped "right" to hold aa assault rifle while other nuts tear up schools, theaters, temples and our streets with, guess what, ASSAULT RIFLES!

These weapons have NO PLACE in our society. They need to be banned forever. The only tyranny I see is the tyranny of the gun nut who insists we must suffer the deadly consequences of assault weapons as a price for his 'freedom'.

You know, how does one gain this level of stupidity I wonder?

Do you even know what tyranny means?

 

[PredFan]

A government that knows its population is armed is going to have to disarm it before it tries to extend its powers beyond what the majority will tolerate--and this serves as a definite warning sign.

As history has shown us time and time again.

 

[PredFan]

Gun Control is not nor ever has been about protecting people. It is all about disarming everyone so that they are helpless.

umm.. if everyone were disarmed... then what would there be to be helpless against?

Wow, you're even dumber than I thought you were.

It would seem so. Of course that depends on how dumb you thought he was to begin with.

 

[PredFan]

A government that knows its population is armed is going to have to disarm it before it tries to extend its powers beyond what the majority will tolerate--and this serves as a definite warning sign.

Believe me, the government knows the population is armed. But why should we be armed with assault weapons? Such weapons wreak more terror and destruction than any benefit by way of defense against tyranny. The general population has no more need of assault weapons than they need bazookas. Are we supposed to have a bazooka in the home to defend against some perceived tyranny?

And it seems to me that the people who actively fight tyranny as they see it are called terrorists. Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols thought they were fighting tyranny when they killed 168 people.

What assault weapons did Tim McVeigh use again?

 

[PredFan]

umm.. if everyone were disarmed... then what would there be to be helpless against?

Umm... The criminals who didn't get disarmed. Let's face it... Gun control only controls Law abiding citizens. Unless of course you want to wipe your ass with the Constitution, and enter every home in America and actively search for guns that were not declared in your less than Constitutional and tyrannical effort to disarm the public.

The sentence said "everyone". Didn't say "non-criminals" or "those born under fire signs" or "those with brown eyes". It said "everyone".

Moving the goal posts. Fifteen yards. Fourth down.

I don't have any effort, tyrannical or otherwise, to disarm anyone of anything, except the guy who put this idea out there of his rational basis. He never came back to answer.

I wrote that and though I didn't specify, obviously the criminals won't obey gun laws. I thought that was common sense.

I repeat, the answer is we will need protection from:

1. Criminals with guns
2. Our Government.

 

[AquaAthena]

Gun Control is not nor ever has been about protecting people. It is all about disarming everyone so that they are helpless.

That's true. A gun-less nation in the hands of a corrupt and ruthless government renders itself as sheeple to be taken over, easily.


Here is but one instance, that a a gun at home, saved lives. June 29, 2010.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-q2zHIovOE]Boy Uses Dad's AR-15 to Shoot Invader - YouTube[/ame]

 

[9thIDdoc]

Stealing peoples' property tends to piss them off.
Disarm everyone today and half will rearm by tomorrow.
The other half the next day
At which time there will a lot of pissed off people wishing discussion with you.

 

[Pogo]

Wow, you're even dumber than I thought you were.

I'm crushed, this coming from a self-admitted racist who tramps around in a superman suit. Crushed, I tell ya.
I also noticed you have no answer.

That's OK. I'll let you in on the secret: there isn't an answer.
You're welcome.

Lol, may I once again point out to you that Superman does not start with the letters JC moron. As for your answer, you being a moron, I'll try to take that into account and explain it to you as simply as possible. BEFORE there was ever even ONE firearm in this world, predatory human beings preyed upon weaker human beings, using their fists, rocks and sticks beating them, raping them, robbing them and enslaving them. Go figure, tens of thousands of years of the weak being helpless in the face of the strong and predatory before the invention of the firearm. Like I said, you're even dumber than I thought you were, and believe me, I thought you were blazingly stupid even before this statement.

Thanks. Having read your knuckledragger deep thoughts on race, I can only take this as the highest compliment. I'd return in kind but that would be dishonest.

Considering the innate prejudice with which you hold other humans in contempt (sorry, Super-prejudice from the planet Krypton), no other points are even worth dignifying.

 

[Pogo]

Gun Control is not nor ever has been about protecting people. It is all about disarming everyone so that they are helpless.

umm.. if everyone were disarmed... then what would there be to be helpless against?

1. Gun toting criminals
2. The Government

ummm.... if you disarmed "everyone" -- how are criminals armed? Duh...


Words are not a toy to play with. They can misfire and shoot you back. Especially when you don't know how to handle them.

 

[9thIDdoc]

If you disarm everyone
at what point do you disarm yourself?
And what's to stop anyone from rearming?

 

[Nosmo King]

To those who believe that we need guns to "fight tyranny":

What ever do you mean by that? A gaggle of idiots with assault rifles slung across their shoulders IS tyranny, not the defenders against it. The second amendment calls LOUDLY for a well regulated militia. That's where assault weapons belong, not on the streets.

If you want to defend against some perceived tyranny, join the National Guard or the State Police. These folks are the real defenders against tyranny. They have proven it. It was National Guardsmen who protected Civil Rights marchers against the tyranny of idiot racists.

Do you see tyranny today? If so, where? because I believe that most of sane America is pretty much satisfied, except for the tyranny of the extremist who holds the view that he has some warped "right" to hold aa assault rifle while other nuts tear up schools, theaters, temples and our streets with, guess what, ASSAULT RIFLES!

These weapons have NO PLACE in our society. They need to be banned forever. The only tyranny I see is the tyranny of the gun nut who insists we must suffer the deadly consequences of assault weapons as a price for his 'freedom'.

You know, how does one gain this level of stupidity I wonder?

Do you even know what tyranny means?

Tyranny is the oppression of people. Just like Southern racist idiots oppressed African American citizens. How was that tyranny blunted? By peaceful protest under the protection of a well regulated militia.

Tyranny means the oppression of people. Like the tyranny displayed by gun nuts who believe that weapons of warfare are to be used by private citizens. Those gun nuts show their disdain and tyranny by insisting that even though their assault weapons take a massive toll of dead, it is their "right" to hold them. That's the real tyranny, not some ill conceived notion of political tyranny held among reactionaries and militarized morons.

The tyranny of the gun nut can be measured by the number of mass shootings and street violence in America today. Ask yourself, should people have weapons designed for soldiers even though the consequences of those weapons is the slaughter of innocent citizens? What is tyranny if not the insistence by a few non-thinkers that they should hold weapons capable of killing so many people so quickly?

 

[Nosmo King]

A government that knows its population is armed is going to have to disarm it before it tries to extend its powers beyond what the majority will tolerate--and this serves as a definite warning sign.

Believe me, the government knows the population is armed. But why should we be armed with assault weapons? Such weapons wreak more terror and destruction than any benefit by way of defense against tyranny. The general population has no more need of assault weapons than they need bazookas. Are we supposed to have a bazooka in the home to defend against some perceived tyranny?

And it seems to me that the people who actively fight tyranny as they see it are called terrorists. Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols thought they were fighting tyranny when they killed 168 people.

What assault weapons did Tim McVeigh use again?

Tim McVeigh is a sterling example of what goes so tragically wrong when someone who perceives tyranny takes up his cause. Just as a gaggle of idiots who love to play Army can exercise tyranny by insisting there are no deadly consequences to their juvenile hobby.

 

[Nosmo King]

If you disarm everyone
at what point do you disarm yourself?
And what's to stop anyone from rearming?

If you're left with bolt action rifles, shot guns, revolvers and single action pistols, are you disarmed? What on earth can possibly justify assault weapons?

 

[eflatminor]

We do not need assault rifles for citizens.
You cannot hunt with them.

That would be a lie. I hunt wild hogs with an AR15 platform. I also use an AR15 for short range varmint hunting. Perfect weapons for the job.

It is also a massive logic fail. Tell me, why would you want to give an advantage to criminals who don't care about your well-intended regulations by banning "assault rifles" for law abiding citizens? You're not one of these lunatics that actually thinks crazies and criminals will obey your laws, are you?

 

[eflatminor]

What on earth can possibly justify assault weapons?

The fact criminals have them? Unless you'd PREFER to be at a disadvantage against armed criminals, which would be rather odd choice I think.

More justification? Okay. I hunt with AR15 rifles. Perfect for hogs and varmints.

Even more justification? Sure. It's a bill of rights, not a bill of needs.

 

[eflatminor]

To those who believe that we need guns to "fight tyranny":

What ever do you mean by that? A gaggle of idiots with assault rifles slung across their shoulders IS tyranny, not the defenders against it. The second amendment calls LOUDLY for a well regulated militia. That's where assault weapons belong, not on the streets.

If you want to defend against some perceived tyranny, join the National Guard or the State Police. These folks are the real defenders against tyranny. They have proven it. It was National Guardsmen who protected Civil Rights marchers against the tyranny of idiot racists.

Do you see tyranny today? If so, where? because I believe that most of sane America is pretty much satisfied, except for the tyranny of the extremist who holds the view that he has some warped "right" to hold aa assault rifle while other nuts tear up schools, theaters, temples and our streets with, guess what, ASSAULT RIFLES!

These weapons have NO PLACE in our society. They need to be banned forever. The only tyranny I see is the tyranny of the gun nut who insists we must suffer the deadly consequences of assault weapons as a price for his 'freedom'.

You know, how does one gain this level of stupidity I wonder?

Do you even know what tyranny means?

Tyranny is the oppression of people. Just like Southern racist idiots oppressed African American citizens.

In large part because those idiots disarmed African American citizens. Just like you want to do.

 

[Nosmo King]

What on earth can possibly justify assault weapons?

The fact criminals have them? Unless you'd PREFER to be at a disadvantage against armed criminals, which would be rather odd choice I think.

More justification? Okay. I hunt with AR15 rifles. Perfect for hogs and varmints.

Even more justification? Sure. It's a bill of rights, not a bill of needs.

A law that would make the sale, manufacture and distribution of assault weapons to private citizens also effects the criminal's access to them. Once this scourge of weaponry has been blotted out, neither criminal nor redneck will be able to wield them again.

And were there no wold boar killed before the invention of the assault rifle? See! You don't need one after all. And you have no "right" to one either. They are weapons built for war. The second amendment protects you from tyranny by calling loudly for a WELL REGULATED MILITIA. Not your drinking buddies, a couple of pick up trucks and AR-15s.