The question no AGW supporter dare answer.

The climate is in a constant state of change. Clear today - rain tomorrow. Might even snow if it's cold enough. Doesn't seem like such a hard concept for me to understand... Why do people have such a hard time with this?????????
 
If the promoters of man-made climate fears truly believed the "debate is over" and the science is "settled", why is there such a strong impulse to shut down debate and threaten those who disagree?​

'Execute' Skeptics! Shock Call To Action: 'At what point do we jail or execute global warming deniers' -- 'Shouldn't we start punishing them now?'


What are you people afraid of?

The Warmers are Necrophiliacs, eugenicists and outright fucking Nazis.


IDK Frank...........gonna have to disagree. I think these people have some pathology in the thought processing...........what lay people commonly refer to as "psychosis". The psychiatrists I work with joke about "the setting screws being a bit off". These people are not unlike functioning alcoholics..........they can get by in life but its all a ruse. They can fool alot of people at work, but dollar to a stale donut their social landscpae is pretty fcukked up. These people are real oddballs if you got to know them...........so its got little to do with experience/education/learning environment but more to do with a pathology in the thinking process........which is quite beyond their abilty to control, although pharmacological aids can be very beneficial.
 
The lingering question is whether the collapse of the climate campaign is also a sign of a broader collapse in public enthusiasm for environmentalism in general. Ted Nordhaus and Michael Shellenberger, two of the more thoughtful and independent-minded figures in the environmental movement, have been warning their green friends that the public has reached the point of “apocalypse fatigue.” They’ve been met with denunciations from the climate campaign enforcers for their heresy. The climate campaign has no idea that it is on the cusp of becoming as ludicrous and forlorn as the World -Esperanto Association.”
In Denial | The Weekly Standard
 
If the promoters of man-made climate fears truly believed the "debate is over" and the science is "settled", why is there such a strong impulse to shut down debate and threaten those who disagree?​

'Execute' Skeptics! Shock Call To Action: 'At what point do we jail or execute global warming deniers' -- 'Shouldn't we start punishing them now?'


What are you people afraid of?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.......tooo funny...

"You people" is one guy who posted something on a blog.

Climate scientists are not trying to "shut down debate", nor are people who disagree with the scientists being threatened by any scientists or the intelligent people who accept the scientists' testimony on AGW. Anyone who conducts valid scientific research can get their paper published in a science journal, which is where the actual "debate" on any scientific issue takes place and that "debate" is based on empirical, verifiable evidence, not words.

The reality is that for years death threats are being aimed at climate scientists by the brainwashed rightwingnuts in the ginned up cult of denial that the fossil fuel industry has created.

Threats Sent to Australian Climate Scientists
Science
10 June 2011
(excerpts)

The flap began with a 4 June article in The Canberra Times by Rosslyn Beeby headlined "Climate of fear," which reported that "more than 30 researchers ranging from ecologists to policy experts" had acknowledged receiving threatening e-mails. The report didn't name all the scientists but said that some had been moved for their safety. Contacted by ScienceInsider, a spokesperson for the Australian National University in Canberra said, "In response to increasing harassment, including death threats, nine staff working in the area of climate change were moved to a more secure location which requires card access." She added, that "death threats occurred over the course of the last 3 years and were passed to the Australian Federal Police."

University of Melbourne meteorology professor David Karoly, a contributing author to reports by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, says that "abusive e-mails are nothing new." He has received death threats himself and notes that threats "have increased in intensity over the last 6 months."

Also fueling tensions is a 23 May report released by the Climate Commission, which was recently appointed by the government to provide independent scientific advice on climate change. The report, titled The Critical Decade, warns that greenhouse gas emissions must be reduced now if there is to be any hope of significantly limiting global temperature rises. Author Will Steffen, executive director of the Climate Change Institute at the Australian National University, is one of those who received abusive e-mails.



Climate scientists receiving death threats by the hundred
Jul 6th 2010
(excerpts)

US climate scientists say they're experiencing a barrage of hate mail and death threats, and that law enforcement agencies are failing to act. The Guardian has published a series of emails received since the recent controversy over climate research at the University of East Anglia. The emails - uncensored - contain racist abuse as well as threats. Some of those interviewed by the paper say they've received hundreds.

Professor Stephen Schneider, a Stanford University climatologist, said his name had appeared on a neo-Nazi 'death list', but that the FBI had taken no action. Michael Mann, who was recently cleared of misconduct by his university after claims he had massaged figures, recently told ABC News that he had received similar threats, including one urging him to commit suicide. "It's an attempt to chill the discourse, and I think that's what's most disconcerting," he said.



'Climategate' scientists receive death threats
Dec 7, 2009
(excerpts)

Two of the scientists involved in "Climategate" – the e-mail hacking incident at the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia, UK – have been emailed death threats since the contents of their private e-mails were leaked to the world. No further information can be revealed about these particular threats at present because they are currently under investigation with the FBI in the United States.

Many other CRU scientists and their colleagues have received torrents of abusive and threatening e-mails since the leaks first began in mid-November 2009. Tom Wigley, previous Director of CRU and now at the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), Boulder, US, has been horrified by the e-mails he and other colleagues have received. "They are truly stomach-turning and show what sort of venomous monsters we are up against," he told environmentalresearchweb.
 
It's Settled Science and we'll kill you if you don't believe it.
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If the promoters of man-made climate fears truly believed the "debate is over" and the science is "settled", why is there such a strong impulse to shut down debate and threaten those who disagree?​

'Execute' Skeptics! Shock Call To Action: 'At what point do we jail or execute global warming deniers' -- 'Shouldn't we start punishing them now?'


What are you people afraid of?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.......tooo funny...

"You people" is one guy who posted something on a blog.

Climate scientists are not trying to "shut down debate", nor are people who disagree with the scientists being threatened by any scientists or the intelligent people who accept the scientists' testimony on AGW. Anyone who conducts valid scientific research can get their paper published in a science journal, which is where the actual "debate" on any scientific issue takes place and that "debate" is based on empirical, verifiable evidence, not words.

The reality is that for years death threats are being aimed at climate scientists by the brainwashed rightwingnuts in the ginned up cult of denial that the fossil fuel industry has created.

Threats Sent to Australian Climate Scientists
Science
10 June 2011
(excerpts)

The flap began with a 4 June article in The Canberra Times by Rosslyn Beeby headlined "Climate of fear," which reported that "more than 30 researchers ranging from ecologists to policy experts" had acknowledged receiving threatening e-mails. The report didn't name all the scientists but said that some had been moved for their safety. Contacted by ScienceInsider, a spokesperson for the Australian National University in Canberra said, "In response to increasing harassment, including death threats, nine staff working in the area of climate change were moved to a more secure location which requires card access." She added, that "death threats occurred over the course of the last 3 years and were passed to the Australian Federal Police."

University of Melbourne meteorology professor David Karoly, a contributing author to reports by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, says that "abusive e-mails are nothing new." He has received death threats himself and notes that threats "have increased in intensity over the last 6 months."

Also fueling tensions is a 23 May report released by the Climate Commission, which was recently appointed by the government to provide independent scientific advice on climate change. The report, titled The Critical Decade, warns that greenhouse gas emissions must be reduced now if there is to be any hope of significantly limiting global temperature rises. Author Will Steffen, executive director of the Climate Change Institute at the Australian National University, is one of those who received abusive e-mails.



Climate scientists receiving death threats by the hundred
Jul 6th 2010
(excerpts)

US climate scientists say they're experiencing a barrage of hate mail and death threats, and that law enforcement agencies are failing to act. The Guardian has published a series of emails received since the recent controversy over climate research at the University of East Anglia. The emails - uncensored - contain racist abuse as well as threats. Some of those interviewed by the paper say they've received hundreds.

Professor Stephen Schneider, a Stanford University climatologist, said his name had appeared on a neo-Nazi 'death list', but that the FBI had taken no action. Michael Mann, who was recently cleared of misconduct by his university after claims he had massaged figures, recently told ABC News that he had received similar threats, including one urging him to commit suicide. "It's an attempt to chill the discourse, and I think that's what's most disconcerting," he said.



'Climategate' scientists receive death threats
Dec 7, 2009
(excerpts)

Two of the scientists involved in "Climategate" – the e-mail hacking incident at the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia, UK – have been emailed death threats since the contents of their private e-mails were leaked to the world. No further information can be revealed about these particular threats at present because they are currently under investigation with the FBI in the United States.

Many other CRU scientists and their colleagues have received torrents of abusive and threatening e-mails since the leaks first began in mid-November 2009. Tom Wigley, previous Director of CRU and now at the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), Boulder, US, has been horrified by the e-mails he and other colleagues have received. "They are truly stomach-turning and show what sort of venomous monsters we are up against," he told environmentalresearchweb.






MMMMMMmmmmmmmm, perhaps not....

CLAIMS prominent climate change scientists had recently received death threats have been revealed as an opportunistic ploy, with the Australian National University admitting that they occurred up to five years ago.

Only two of ANU's climate change scientists allegedly received death threats, the first in a letter posted in 2006-2007 and the other an offhand remark made in person 12 months ago.

Neither was officially reported to ACT Police or Australian Federal Police, despite such crimes carrying a 10-year prison sentence.

The outdated threats raised question marks over the timing of their release to the public, with claims they were aired last week to draw sympathy to scientists and their climate change cause.

The university denied it was creating a ruse, maintaining the initial report, in the Fairfax-owned Canberra Times last week, failed to indicate when the threats were made.Reports also suggested the threats had forced the ANU to lock away its climate change scientists and policy advisers in a high-security complex. The Daily Telegraph has discovered the nine scientists and staff in question were merely given keyless swipe cards - routine security measures taken last year.



Carbon death threats go cold | thetelegraph.com.au


On the other hand there have been many, many cases where enviro nuts think that sceptics should be killed, imprisoned, sent to mental asylums, have tatoos forcibly marked on their bodies and just generally abused.

Epic fail trolling blunder, epic fail...But hey that's what you do...

Eco-terrorists Sentence Skeptics to Death :: The Atlasphere
 
If the promoters of man-made climate fears truly believed the "debate is over" and the science is "settled", why is there such a strong impulse to shut down debate and threaten those who disagree?​

'Execute' Skeptics! Shock Call To Action: 'At what point do we jail or execute global warming deniers' -- 'Shouldn't we start punishing them now?'


What are you people afraid of?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.......tooo funny...

"You people" is one guy who posted something on a blog.

Climate scientists are not trying to "shut down debate", nor are people who disagree with the scientists being threatened by any scientists or the intelligent people who accept the scientists' testimony on AGW. Anyone who conducts valid scientific research can get their paper published in a science journal, which is where the actual "debate" on any scientific issue takes place and that "debate" is based on empirical, verifiable evidence, not words.

The reality is that for years death threats are being aimed at climate scientists by the brainwashed rightwingnuts in the ginned up cult of denial that the fossil fuel industry has created.

Threats Sent to Australian Climate Scientists
Science
10 June 2011
(excerpts)

The flap began with a 4 June article in The Canberra Times by Rosslyn Beeby headlined "Climate of fear," which reported that "more than 30 researchers ranging from ecologists to policy experts" had acknowledged receiving threatening e-mails. The report didn't name all the scientists but said that some had been moved for their safety. Contacted by ScienceInsider, a spokesperson for the Australian National University in Canberra said, "In response to increasing harassment, including death threats, nine staff working in the area of climate change were moved to a more secure location which requires card access." She added, that "death threats occurred over the course of the last 3 years and were passed to the Australian Federal Police."

University of Melbourne meteorology professor David Karoly, a contributing author to reports by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, says that "abusive e-mails are nothing new." He has received death threats himself and notes that threats "have increased in intensity over the last 6 months."

Also fueling tensions is a 23 May report released by the Climate Commission, which was recently appointed by the government to provide independent scientific advice on climate change. The report, titled The Critical Decade, warns that greenhouse gas emissions must be reduced now if there is to be any hope of significantly limiting global temperature rises. Author Will Steffen, executive director of the Climate Change Institute at the Australian National University, is one of those who received abusive e-mails.



Climate scientists receiving death threats by the hundred
Jul 6th 2010
(excerpts)

US climate scientists say they're experiencing a barrage of hate mail and death threats, and that law enforcement agencies are failing to act. The Guardian has published a series of emails received since the recent controversy over climate research at the University of East Anglia. The emails - uncensored - contain racist abuse as well as threats. Some of those interviewed by the paper say they've received hundreds.

Professor Stephen Schneider, a Stanford University climatologist, said his name had appeared on a neo-Nazi 'death list', but that the FBI had taken no action. Michael Mann, who was recently cleared of misconduct by his university after claims he had massaged figures, recently told ABC News that he had received similar threats, including one urging him to commit suicide. "It's an attempt to chill the discourse, and I think that's what's most disconcerting," he said.



'Climategate' scientists receive death threats
Dec 7, 2009
(excerpts)

Two of the scientists involved in "Climategate" – the e-mail hacking incident at the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia, UK – have been emailed death threats since the contents of their private e-mails were leaked to the world. No further information can be revealed about these particular threats at present because they are currently under investigation with the FBI in the United States.

Many other CRU scientists and their colleagues have received torrents of abusive and threatening e-mails since the leaks first began in mid-November 2009. Tom Wigley, previous Director of CRU and now at the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), Boulder, US, has been horrified by the e-mails he and other colleagues have received. "They are truly stomach-turning and show what sort of venomous monsters we are up against," he told environmentalresearchweb.




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although about 17 people will hear about this story............:up:



s0n........you're like a General Custer waiting to happen!!!!:boobies::boobies::boobies::coffee:



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If the promoters of man-made climate fears truly believed the "debate is over" and the science is "settled", why is there such a strong impulse to shut down debate and threaten those who disagree?​

'Execute' Skeptics! Shock Call To Action: 'At what point do we jail or execute global warming deniers' -- 'Shouldn't we start punishing them now?'


What are you people afraid of?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.......tooo funny...

"You people" is one guy who posted something on a blog.

Climate scientists are not trying to "shut down debate", nor are people who disagree with the scientists being threatened by any scientists or the intelligent people who accept the scientists' testimony on AGW. Anyone who conducts valid scientific research can get their paper published in a science journal, which is where the actual "debate" on any scientific issue takes place and that "debate" is based on empirical, verifiable evidence, not words.

The reality is that for years death threats are being aimed at climate scientists by the brainwashed rightwingnuts in the ginned up cult of denial that the fossil fuel industry has created.
Good Gaea, you have to be the stupidest fucking moron on the entire internet. And since the entire internet includes DailyKOS and DU, that's saying something.


So...you don't have an answer to the question in the OP. You're dismissed, Biff.
 
MMMMMMmmmmmmmm, perhaps not....

CLAIMS prominent climate change scientists had recently received death threats have been revealed as an opportunistic ploy, with the Australian National University admitting that they occurred up to five years ago.

Only two of ANU's climate change scientists allegedly received death threats, the first in a letter posted in 2006-2007 and the other an offhand remark made in person 12 months ago.

Neither was officially reported to ACT Police or Australian Federal Police, despite such crimes carrying a 10-year prison sentence.

The outdated threats raised question marks over the timing of their release to the public, with claims they were aired last week to draw sympathy to scientists and their climate change cause.

The university denied it was creating a ruse, maintaining the initial report, in the Fairfax-owned Canberra Times last week, failed to indicate when the threats were made.Reports also suggested the threats had forced the ANU to lock away its climate change scientists and policy advisers in a high-security complex. The Daily Telegraph has discovered the nine scientists and staff in question were merely given keyless swipe cards - routine security measures taken last year.



Carbon death threats go cold | thetelegraph.com.au


On the other hand there have been many, many cases where enviro nuts think that sceptics should be killed, imprisoned, sent to mental asylums, have tatoos forcibly marked on their bodies and just generally abused.

Epic fail trolling blunder, epic fail...But hey that's what you do...

Eco-terrorists Sentence Skeptics to Death :: The Atlasphere

Imagine that. AGW cultists are lying. Again. Still. :clap2:
 
If the promoters of man-made climate fears truly believed the "debate is over" and the science is "settled", why is there such a strong impulse to shut down debate and threaten those who disagree?​

'Execute' Skeptics! Shock Call To Action: 'At what point do we jail or execute global warming deniers' -- 'Shouldn't we start punishing them now?'


What are you people afraid of?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.......tooo funny...

"You people" is one guy who posted something on a blog.

Climate scientists are not trying to "shut down debate", nor are people who disagree with the scientists being threatened by any scientists or the intelligent people who accept the scientists' testimony on AGW. Anyone who conducts valid scientific research can get their paper published in a science journal, which is where the actual "debate" on any scientific issue takes place and that "debate" is based on empirical, verifiable evidence, not words.

The reality is that for years death threats are being aimed at climate scientists by the brainwashed rightwingnuts in the ginned up cult of denial that the fossil fuel industry has created.

Threats Sent to Australian Climate Scientists
Science
10 June 2011
(excerpts)

The flap began with a 4 June article in The Canberra Times by Rosslyn Beeby headlined "Climate of fear," which reported that "more than 30 researchers ranging from ecologists to policy experts" had acknowledged receiving threatening e-mails. The report didn't name all the scientists but said that some had been moved for their safety. Contacted by ScienceInsider, a spokesperson for the Australian National University in Canberra said, "In response to increasing harassment, including death threats, nine staff working in the area of climate change were moved to a more secure location which requires card access." She added, that "death threats occurred over the course of the last 3 years and were passed to the Australian Federal Police."

University of Melbourne meteorology professor David Karoly, a contributing author to reports by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, says that "abusive e-mails are nothing new." He has received death threats himself and notes that threats "have increased in intensity over the last 6 months."

Also fueling tensions is a 23 May report released by the Climate Commission, which was recently appointed by the government to provide independent scientific advice on climate change. The report, titled The Critical Decade, warns that greenhouse gas emissions must be reduced now if there is to be any hope of significantly limiting global temperature rises. Author Will Steffen, executive director of the Climate Change Institute at the Australian National University, is one of those who received abusive e-mails.



Climate scientists receiving death threats by the hundred
Jul 6th 2010
(excerpts)

US climate scientists say they're experiencing a barrage of hate mail and death threats, and that law enforcement agencies are failing to act. The Guardian has published a series of emails received since the recent controversy over climate research at the University of East Anglia. The emails - uncensored - contain racist abuse as well as threats. Some of those interviewed by the paper say they've received hundreds.

Professor Stephen Schneider, a Stanford University climatologist, said his name had appeared on a neo-Nazi 'death list', but that the FBI had taken no action. Michael Mann, who was recently cleared of misconduct by his university after claims he had massaged figures, recently told ABC News that he had received similar threats, including one urging him to commit suicide. "It's an attempt to chill the discourse, and I think that's what's most disconcerting," he said.



'Climategate' scientists receive death threats
Dec 7, 2009
(excerpts)

Two of the scientists involved in "Climategate" – the e-mail hacking incident at the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia, UK – have been emailed death threats since the contents of their private e-mails were leaked to the world. No further information can be revealed about these particular threats at present because they are currently under investigation with the FBI in the United States.

Many other CRU scientists and their colleagues have received torrents of abusive and threatening e-mails since the leaks first began in mid-November 2009. Tom Wigley, previous Director of CRU and now at the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), Boulder, US, has been horrified by the e-mails he and other colleagues have received. "They are truly stomach-turning and show what sort of venomous monsters we are up against," he told environmentalresearchweb.
You have now used the same article to make a fool out of daveman in two separate threads! Not that it's difficult to make a fool out of daveman - he meets you more than halfway.

:clap:
 
Australian climate scientists threatened in carbon tax row - The China Post

Australian climate scientists threatened in carbon tax row
SYDNEY -- Climate researchers at one of Australia's top universities have been rushed to a secure location after receiving death threats, according to an official, as debate rages over plans for a carbon pollution tax. The Australian National University (ANU) scientists had to be shifted following mounting abuse, with threats they would be attacked in the street if they didn't stop their research, said ANU vice-chancellor Dick Young.

Young said the menacing e-mails and phone calls had intensified in recent weeks amid heated public debate over Prime Minister Julia Gillard's plans to introduce a tax on carbon emissions aimed at reducing pollution.

“Obviously climate research is an emotive issue at the present time,” Young told ABC television.
 
Like the obese radio show junkie stated, "accuse others of what you are doing"


Australian Climate Scientists get death threats : Deltoid

Australian Climate Scientists get death threats
Category: Global Warming
Posted on: June 6, 2011 12:06 AM, by Tim Lambert

The Canberra Times reports

Australia's leading climate change scientists are being targeted by a vicious, unrelenting email campaign that has resulted in police investigations of death threats.

The Australian National University has confirmed it moved several high-profile climate scientists, economists and policy researchers into more secure buildings, following explicit threats to their personal safety.

Whoever could be inciting people to make such threats? Oh look, here's Tim Blair's response to the news:

But on the weekend we discovered that it only takes a few emails to scare climate scientists clean out of their laboratories. "It's completely intolerable that people be subjected to this sort of abuse," said the Australian National University's Professor Ian Young, who claimed that scientists had been moved to a safer location due to what he described as death threats. "Academics and scientists are actually really not equipped to be treated in this way," he said.

Well, that's not the message we got from their climate rap. "Perhaps," replied reader George Rock, "they shouldn't call people motherf ... ers if they don't want to fight."

Notice that he's not even bothering to pay lip service to the notion that maybe there is something wrong with sending death threats?

Also in that column you'll find Blair, who is the opinion editor for the Daily Telegraph, lambasting a PhD student for pitching a "climate change for dummies" opinion piece to him. Apparently that is insulting to Daily Telegraph readers who all understand radiation physics perfectly.
 

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