The question no AGW supporter dare answer.

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    Heretic! :D
     
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    The climate is in a constant state of change. Clear today - rain tomorrow. Might even snow if it's cold enough. Doesn't seem like such a hard concept for me to understand... Why do people have such a hard time with this?????????
     
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    IDK Frank...........gonna have to disagree. I think these people have some pathology in the thought processing...........what lay people commonly refer to as "psychosis". The psychiatrists I work with joke about "the setting screws being a bit off". These people are not unlike functioning alcoholics..........they can get by in life but its all a ruse. They can fool alot of people at work, but dollar to a stale donut their social landscpae is pretty fcukked up. These people are real oddballs if you got to know them...........so its got little to do with experience/education/learning environment but more to do with a pathology in the thinking process........which is quite beyond their abilty to control, although pharmacological aids can be very beneficial.
     
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    The lingering question is whether the collapse of the climate campaign is also a sign of a broader collapse in public enthusiasm for environmentalism in general. Ted Nordhaus and Michael Shellenberger, two of the more thoughtful and independent-minded figures in the environmental movement, have been warning their green friends that the public has reached the point of “apocalypse fatigue.” They’ve been met with denunciations from the climate campaign enforcers for their heresy. The climate campaign has no idea that it is on the cusp of becoming as ludicrous and forlorn as the World -Esperanto Association.”
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    No, he's a blasphemer!
     
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    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.......tooo funny...

    "You people" is one guy who posted something on a blog.

    Climate scientists are not trying to "shut down debate", nor are people who disagree with the scientists being threatened by any scientists or the intelligent people who accept the scientists' testimony on AGW. Anyone who conducts valid scientific research can get their paper published in a science journal, which is where the actual "debate" on any scientific issue takes place and that "debate" is based on empirical, verifiable evidence, not words.

    The reality is that for years death threats are being aimed at climate scientists by the brainwashed rightwingnuts in the ginned up cult of denial that the fossil fuel industry has created.

    Threats Sent to Australian Climate Scientists
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    The flap began with a 4 June article in The Canberra Times by Rosslyn Beeby headlined "Climate of fear," which reported that "more than 30 researchers ranging from ecologists to policy experts" had acknowledged receiving threatening e-mails. The report didn't name all the scientists but said that some had been moved for their safety. Contacted by ScienceInsider, a spokesperson for the Australian National University in Canberra said, "In response to increasing harassment, including death threats, nine staff working in the area of climate change were moved to a more secure location which requires card access." She added, that "death threats occurred over the course of the last 3 years and were passed to the Australian Federal Police."

    University of Melbourne meteorology professor David Karoly, a contributing author to reports by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, says that "abusive e-mails are nothing new." He has received death threats himself and notes that threats "have increased in intensity over the last 6 months."

    Also fueling tensions is a 23 May report released by the Climate Commission, which was recently appointed by the government to provide independent scientific advice on climate change. The report, titled The Critical Decade, warns that greenhouse gas emissions must be reduced now if there is to be any hope of significantly limiting global temperature rises. Author Will Steffen, executive director of the Climate Change Institute at the Australian National University, is one of those who received abusive e-mails.



    Climate scientists receiving death threats by the hundred
    Jul 6th 2010
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    US climate scientists say they're experiencing a barrage of hate mail and death threats, and that law enforcement agencies are failing to act. The Guardian has published a series of emails received since the recent controversy over climate research at the University of East Anglia. The emails - uncensored - contain racist abuse as well as threats. Some of those interviewed by the paper say they've received hundreds.

    Professor Stephen Schneider, a Stanford University climatologist, said his name had appeared on a neo-Nazi 'death list', but that the FBI had taken no action. Michael Mann, who was recently cleared of misconduct by his university after claims he had massaged figures, recently told ABC News that he had received similar threats, including one urging him to commit suicide. "It's an attempt to chill the discourse, and I think that's what's most disconcerting," he said.



    'Climategate' scientists receive death threats
    Dec 7, 2009
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    Two of the scientists involved in "Climategate" – the e-mail hacking incident at the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia, UK – have been emailed death threats since the contents of their private e-mails were leaked to the world. No further information can be revealed about these particular threats at present because they are currently under investigation with the FBI in the United States.

    Many other CRU scientists and their colleagues have received torrents of abusive and threatening e-mails since the leaks first began in mid-November 2009. Tom Wigley, previous Director of CRU and now at the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), Boulder, US, has been horrified by the e-mails he and other colleagues have received. "They are truly stomach-turning and show what sort of venomous monsters we are up against," he told environmentalresearchweb.
     
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    Philistine! :lol:
     
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    It's Settled Science and we'll kill you if you don't believe it.
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