The protection requiring a two thirds vote in matters of grave importance [impeachment]

[johnwk]

What is most important in this process to impeach a president is, the vote count, a simple majority, which allegedly authorizes Congress to continue in a process to impeach a president and nullify an election.



The vote was 232 to 196, in favor of continuing in a process to impeach the president.



The problem I have with this vote count is, when reviewing our Constitution, with respect to a subject of such great importance and magnitude, a two thirds vote in the House seems to be in order. Not a mere majority vote!



Let us look at some of the provisions of our constitution requiring a two thirds vote in the House



Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behavior, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a Member.



A two thirds vote in the House is also required to override a President’s veto of a bill raising revenue.



Every Order, Resolution, or Vote to which the Concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill.



A two thirds vote in the House is also required to propose amendments to our Constitution.



A two thirds vote in each House, is also necessary to remove a “disability” under the 14th Amendment…



And let us not forget that which appears most important to our current conversation ___ a two thirds vote of both Houses is necessary to remove a President who is found unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.

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The fact is, a simple majority vote on a matter which involves the nullification of an election and the removal of a president is simply not consistent with our constitution’s apparent threshold protection requiring a two thirds vote in matters of momentous concern.



So why are our “conservative” Representatives in the House, and our “conservative” talk show hosts [Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Laura Ingraham, Schnitt, Mark Levin, Dennis Prager, Bill O'rielly, Mike Gallagher, Doc Thompson, Lee Rodgers, Neal Boortz, Mike Huckabee, Tammy Bruce, Monica Crowley, Herman Cain, Greg Gutfeld, Dana Perino, Neil Cavuto, Lou Dobbs, Tucker Carlson, Lisa Kennedy,etc.], not challenging a simple majority vote and demanding a two thirds vote to move forward with a process to nullify an election and remove a duly elected president?



JWK





“If the Constitution was ratified under the belief, sedulously propagated on all sides that such protection was afforded, would it not now be a fraud upon the whole people to give a different construction to its powers?”___ Justice Story

 

[OldLady]

What is most important in this process to impeach a president is, the vote count, a simple majority, which allegedly authorizes Congress to continue in a process to impeach a president and nullify an election.



The vote was 232 to 196, in favor of continuing in a process to impeach the president.



The problem I have with this vote count is, when reviewing our Constitution, with respect to a subject of such great importance and magnitude, a two thirds vote in the House seems to be in order. Not a mere majority vote!



Let us look at some of the provisions of our constitution requiring a two thirds vote in the House



Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behavior, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a Member.



A two thirds vote in the House is also required to override a President’s veto of a bill raising revenue.



Every Order, Resolution, or Vote to which the Concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill.



A two thirds vote in the House is also required to propose amendments to our Constitution.



A two thirds vote in each House, is also necessary to remove a “disability” under the 14th Amendment…



And let us not forget that which appears most important to our current conversation ___ a two thirds vote of both Houses is necessary to remove a President who is found unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.

.

The fact is, a simple majority vote on a matter which involves the nullification of an election and the removal of a president is simply not consistent with our constitution’s apparent threshold protection requiring a two thirds vote in matters of momentous concern.



So why are our “conservative” Representatives in the House, and our “conservative” talk show hosts [Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Laura Ingraham, Schnitt, Mark Levin, Dennis Prager, Bill O'rielly, Mike Gallagher, Doc Thompson, Lee Rodgers, Neal Boortz, Mike Huckabee, Tammy Bruce, Monica Crowley, Herman Cain, Greg Gutfeld, Dana Perino, Neil Cavuto, Lou Dobbs, Tucker Carlson, Lisa Kennedy,etc.], not challenging a simple majority vote and demanding a two thirds vote to move forward with a process to nullify an election and remove a duly elected president?



JWK





“If the Constitution was ratified under the belief, sedulously propagated on all sides that such protection was afforded, would it not now be a fraud upon the whole people to give a different construction to its powers?”___ Justice Story

For the three thousandth time, this is an investigation, not an impeachment vote.

 

[johnwk]

For the three thousandth time, this is an investigation, not an impeachment vote.

It's a process!

JWK

The Democrat Party Leadership has stooped to a new low by turning the impeachment process into a frivolous political weapon, to be use to remove a duly elected president and negate one of our nation’s most sacred features ___ its election process.

 

[bullwinkle]

What is most important in this process to impeach a president is, the vote count, a simple majority, which allegedly authorizes Congress to continue in a process to impeach a president and nullify an election.



The vote was 232 to 196, in favor of continuing in a process to impeach the president.



The problem I have with this vote count is, when reviewing our Constitution, with respect to a subject of such great importance and magnitude, a two thirds vote in the House seems to be in order. Not a mere majority vote!



Let us look at some of the provisions of our constitution requiring a two thirds vote in the House



Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behavior, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a Member.



A two thirds vote in the House is also required to override a President’s veto of a bill raising revenue.



Every Order, Resolution, or Vote to which the Concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill.



A two thirds vote in the House is also required to propose amendments to our Constitution.



A two thirds vote in each House, is also necessary to remove a “disability” under the 14th Amendment…



And let us not forget that which appears most important to our current conversation ___ a two thirds vote of both Houses is necessary to remove a President who is found unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.

.

The fact is, a simple majority vote on a matter which involves the nullification of an election and the removal of a president is simply not consistent with our constitution’s apparent threshold protection requiring a two thirds vote in matters of momentous concern.



So why are our “conservative” Representatives in the House, and our “conservative” talk show hosts [Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Laura Ingraham, Schnitt, Mark Levin, Dennis Prager, Bill O'rielly, Mike Gallagher, Doc Thompson, Lee Rodgers, Neal Boortz, Mike Huckabee, Tammy Bruce, Monica Crowley, Herman Cain, Greg Gutfeld, Dana Perino, Neil Cavuto, Lou Dobbs, Tucker Carlson, Lisa Kennedy,etc.], not challenging a simple majority vote and demanding a two thirds vote to move forward with a process to nullify an election and remove a duly elected president?



JWK





“If the Constitution was ratified under the belief, sedulously propagated on all sides that such protection was afforded, would it not now be a fraud upon the whole people to give a different construction to its powers?”___ Justice Story

Could all those conservatives staying quiet on the vote you cite because it is NOT a vote to impeach. It is a vote to hold hearings, open public hearings with both sides having lawyers present and able to cross examine. The actual vote requires a 2/3 vote, as it should be because it should not be easy to remove a President without ironclad proof.
But all this talk about nullifying 'the people's vote' is also laughable. The EC elected Trump. "The People' elected his opponent. A technicality, I admit, but also a reality. So in all the talk about process to divert away from factual actions is admirably creative but also transparent. It appears our Republican brothers and sisters have converted from their oath to the Constitution to an oath to the occupant of the Oval office. And he's a crook!
Verifiable proof of abuse of power and corruption are vital, but it appears to me to be evident, even from Trump's own mouth. So let the hearings begin!

 

[Claudette]

Its a giant clusterfuck is what it is.

Trump won't be impeached and the Dems are laying out the red carpet for a Trump win in 2020.

The House Dems are a pack of fools.

 

[g5000]

It requires a majority vote in the House to impeach the President.

It requires a two-thirds vote in the Senate to convict the President.

That's a perfect balance, and we have yet to ever impeach and convict a President as a result. So to whine that the process is not hard enough is just plain ridiculous.

 

[Edgetho]

In a democracy (we are a Republic, which is a form of democracy), if you want the government changed, you go to The People.

It's called 'Elections'.

You make your case to The people and allow them to decide.

The People decided on Trump. Fair and square. Bitch and moan all you want about popular vote, etc. We won. Period.

But dimocrap FILTH, being the scum-sucking subhuman slime they are, have decided that The People are too stupid to make those kinds of important decisions.

So dimocrap FILTH are using the Deep State as a way to change our government. Because, you know, We The People?

We're just too stupid to make our own decisions.

What dimocrap FILTH are doing is, and I use this word virtually never, is TREASON.

It is the unlawful attempt to undo a free and fair election.

If they do manage to take down Trump......??

You ain't gonna like what happens. Believe it.

 

[task0778]

It was a vote to launch an impeachment inquiry, rather than a vote to actually impeach Trump. I am not sure the impeachment vote would require a 2/3 majority in the house, cuz they can write or rewrite their own rules. But I think they are cutting their own throats politically by going down this road. "Orange man bad" gets you the far left vote, but the center and the right are going to want to know what did you do for us these last 2 years. When the answer is "um, well we opposed everything Trump wanted and we tried to impeach him" is not going to sit well in red and purple states.

 

[g5000]

It was a vote to launch an impeachment inquiry, rather than a vote to actually impeach Trump. I am not sure the impeachment vote would require a 2/3 majority in the house, cuz they can write or rewrite their own rules. But I think they are cutting their own throats politically by going down this road. "Orange man bad" gets you the far left vote, but the center and the right are going to want to know what did you do for us these last 2 years. When the answer is "um, well we opposed everything Trump wanted and we tried to impeach him" is not going to sit well in red and purple states.

Get me dirt on Biden, or no aid.

The American people have no problem understanding that is the very definition of corruption.

Except for Trump's tard herd, of course.

 

[johnwk]

It requires a majority vote in the House to impeach the President.

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Where is that stated in our Constitution?

JWK

The Democrat Party Leadership has stooped to a new low by turning the impeachment process into a frivolous political weapon, to be use to remove a duly elected president and negate one of our nation’s most sacred features ___ its election process.

 

[g5000]

It requires a majority vote in the House to impeach the President.

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Where is that stated in our Constitution?

It is implicit in the fact that the Constitution does not require a two-thirds majority in the House, but specifically does require a two-thirds vote in the Senate to convict.

 

[Dick Foster]

It requires a majority vote in the House to impeach the President.

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Where is that stated in our Constitution?

JWK

The Democrat Party Leadership has stooped to a new low by turning the impeachment process into a frivolous political weapon, to be use to remove a duly elected president and negate one of our nation’s most sacred features ___ its election process.

For Christs sake you lazy ass, read the thing yourself. If you're not familiar with our constitution, you have no damn business even being on this board or posting anything at all.