The Problem with a Market Society

[LibertyLemming]

money is a product no different than your fucking iphone the idea that currencies are impossible without government is absolutely insane

 

[gnarlylove]

LL, what are you talking about? no one said governments are essential to the role of money or stock markets. are they involved? yes.

markets that exist today confer normative and prescriptive values upon society. trading and bartering does not. hence my whole argument that when economists say markets do not traffic in morality, well it turns out they absolutely do. and our society is utterly dependent, we are used as machines in factories and cubicles to fulfill the production of profit for wealthy folks we will never meet. in a bartering system humans trade items to excel in their life. the market of millenia ago simply did not confer prescriptive behaviors like it does today.

if you are fuzzy on what prescriptive values are, look them up QB before you reveal your shameless naked ego for all to see. no one wants to read your prate because this poor child never got the attention he wants...so he has to scream over a damned computer. what a totally hollow behavior, but i know it helps you sleep at night. you are literally incapable of communicating on the level. and your exceptionally robust ego shields you from seeing that you are displaying unbridled arrogance and ignorance in every single post. god help us given shallow pricks like you are the majority, not the exception.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

LL, what are you talking about? no one said governments are essential to the role of money or stock markets. are they involved? yes.

markets that exist today confer normative and prescriptive values upon society. trading and bartering does not. hence my whole argument that when economists say markets do not traffic in morality, well it turns out they absolutely do. and our society is utterly dependent, we are used as machines in factories and cubicles to fulfill the production of profit for wealthy folks we will never meet. in a bartering system humans trade items to excel in their life. the market of millenia ago simply did not confer prescriptive behaviors like it does today.

if you are fuzzy on what prescriptive values are, look them up QB before you reveal your shameless naked ego for all to see. no one wants to read your prate because this poor child never got the attention he wants...so he has to scream over a damned computer. what a totally hollow behavior, but i know it helps you sleep at night. you are literally incapable of communicating on the level. and your exceptionally robust ego shields you from seeing that you are displaying unbridled arrogance and ignorance in every single post. god help us given shallow pricks like you are the majority, not the exception.

Still not even wrong.

 

[gnarlylove]

"Simply put, government policies can mean the difference of billions of dollars for major companies, and spending on politics offers a superb payoff. A study from the University of Kansas found that companies lobbying for a tax holiday received a 22,000 percent return on the money they spent to influence the legislation."
Where Have All the Lobbyists Gone? | The Nation

Markets have taken over our government and so that corporations can buy results. This is a result of a market society gone wrong. Money has more value than human relationships.

Maybe your point is our society differs in degree, not in kind to former societies. Is this your complaint? Then I can safely agree with you without changing my argument. No one denies our society is quite different from one centuries ago and that the direction markets have taken has severely handicapped people in making good long-term decisions. No one knows how to live within their means, just like Government. I'm not saying we all should but if allowing our expenditures to rule our life is a bad thing. We need to develop a sense of worth outside the realm of money and markets--but sadly markets tend to corrode our once held values.

 

[SAYIT]

"Simply put, government policies can mean the difference of billions of dollars for major companies, and spending on politics offers a superb payoff. A study from the University of Kansas found that companies lobbying for a tax holiday received a 22,000 percent return on the money they spent to influence the legislation."
Where Have All the Lobbyists Gone? | The Nation

Markets have taken over our government and so that corporations can buy results. This is a result of a market society gone wrong. Money has more value than human relationships.

Socialist Silliness. Money simply exists to facilitate bartering.

 

[SAYIT]

As I read through these posts and threads I often read about this magical Market that can do all things. A kind of Supermarket that builds roads, bridges, tunnels, subways yet? But you know what, I never see one of this Market miracles. Where are they folks?

Funny, when I read them I am amazed by those who diss America's market system, as imperfect as it is, and in all seriousness argue that we would be better served by ditching it in favor of the Soviet or some other socialist model.