The problem is Trump the person

[easyt65]

BAM! Michael Flynn Expected to Plead Guilty to Lying to the F.B.I.

Another 'Scooter Libby' indictment for Mueller.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

True.

And Trump’s adherence to failed, wrongheaded conservative dogma further demonstrates the fact he’s unfit to be president.

And yet adherence to failed, wrongheaded liberal dogma is just fine.

 

[Esmeralda]

The problem is Trump the person.
I take issue with Trump's narcicisstic, self indulging personality

Who gives a fuck about his "personality"? The only thing that matters is whether or not he's a competent executive.

And he isn't. He isn't competent to lead the US.

 

[Dragonlady]

BAM! Michael Flynn Expected to Plead Guilty to Lying to the F.B.I.

Another 'Scooter Libby' indictment for Mueller.

Yes applaud all you like but this pretty much proves that Flynn has flipped. There are any number of more serious charges Flynn could have faced, given that he violated US law by taking payments from foreign governments within 2 years of leaving the military. That he is only being charged with lying to the FBI proves he’s giving them information that will help Mueller nail bigger fish.

So who’s bigger than the (former) head of the NSA? Well there’s Kuchner and Trump. And Kuchner is already an easy take down.

 

[AntonToo]

BAM! Michael Flynn Expected to Plead Guilty to Lying to the F.B.I.

Another 'Scooter Libby' indictment for Mueller.

...except it has nothing to do with Libby and situations are not comparable.

 

[mudwhistle]

The problem is Trump the person.
I take issue with Trump's narcicisstic, self indulging personality that results in lack of a moral compass, making him unqualified to lead. I find his politics are driven by his need for self-aggrandizing, not conservative doctrine.
He has the qualites of a despot, not the leader of the free world.

Yor full of shit.

Obama had no moral compass.... THAT'S WHY TRUMP WON, YOU FUCKING SHIT HEAD!!!

 

[mudwhistle]

BAM! Michael Flynn Expected to Plead Guilty to Lying to the F.B.I.

Another 'Scooter Libby' indictment for Mueller.

Yes applaud all you like but this pretty much proves that Flynn has flipped. There are any number of more serious charges Flynn could have faced, given that he violated US law by taking payments from foreign governments within 2 years of leaving the military. That he is only being charged with lying to the FBI proves he’s giving them information that will help Mueller nail bigger fish.

So who’s bigger than the (former) head of the NSA? Well there’s Kuchner and Trump. And Kuchner is already an easy take down.

Or that is all they could get him on.

 

[easyt65]

Yes applaud all you like but this pretty much proves that Flynn has flipped.

That is speculation and opinion. All this means at this point is Flynn is negotiating a plea deal in an attempt to avoid spending the next 60 years in jail. Any claim at this point that Flynn is working with Mueller to produce any evidence against the President is pure opinion and HOPE on behalf of desperate Trump-haters.

 

[easyt65]

So who’s bigger than the (former) head of the NSA? Well there’s Kuchner and Trump. And Kuchner is already an easy take down.

The former head of the NSA has already been proven to have perjured himself. As far as Kuchner, there is no evidence against him. If there were he would have already been indicted, squeezed by Mueller to try to get anything on Trump. Again, such statements are speculation, opinion, and 'hope'.

 

[Dragonlady]

The problem is Trump the person.
I take issue with Trump's narcicisstic, self indulging personality that results in lack of a moral compass, making him unqualified to lead. I find his politics are driven by his need for self-aggrandizing, not conservative doctrine.
He has the qualites of a despot, not the leader of the free world.

Add to that the criminal element and you have Hillary and Obama in a nut-shell.

Trump is the guy who’s been indicted and settled law suits over criminal acts. Neither Clinton nor Obama have been charged with a crime much less convicted.

Crooked Donnie’s charitable foundation has been shut down for illegal fundraising, fine by the IRS for illegal campaign contributions and cited for misuse of funds.

The Trump Corporation is under criminal investigation for skimming over $3 million from donations Eric raised for St. Jude’s.

9 months into Crooked Donnie’s administration and there is already a special prosecutor, two grand juries, a Senate Investigation, 3 indictments and one guilty plea.

That’s more than we saw in 8 years of the Obama administration.

I’m sick and tired of lying Republicans going on and on about the criminals among the Democrats when they ran a candidate who had conducted his business affairs in such a sleazy, dishonest fashion that it wasn’t a question of “if” as it was “when” would Trump get into legal problems as President.

Clinton settled out of court on a rape charge.

No he didn’t. He settled out of court on a sexual harassment allegation. Paula Jones never said Clinton raped her. In fact she said that he asked her for a blow job and she refused. She sued because a magazine published an article that said she gave him a blow job and she wanted a retraction and an apology for the slander of her good name.

The case was dismissed with prejudice and the judge cited a total lack of evidence that either Jones or her husband had faced any loss of promotions or raised as a result of Paula's refusal. “With prejudice” means Jones had to pay Clinton’s lawyers and she could never refile.

Jones lawyers appealed the dismissal. Clinton settled to get rid of the case since after 4 years of litigating this matter, he was now facing impeachment for lying about the blow job he did get from Lewinsky.

So not only did he not settle a rape case, he wasn’t even accused of rape.

Not that time.
However he has been accused of rape on several occasions.
Nobody seems to want to give the woman a proper hearing.

Again this is false. No woman ever accused Clinton of rape. This is another Republican lie.

Anita Broaddrick Swore an Affidavit before the court in the Paula Jones case that said Bill Clinton did not rape her. She only accused Clinton of rape after Ken Starr threatened to charge her with perjury if she didn’t change her story. There has never been a single other accusation of rape.

Republicans keep referring to the list of so-called Clinton “victims” and added allegations of rape that none of these women claimed. In fact, all of them denied such allegations.

These are Republican lies that you right wingers are too intellectually lazy to check out. Besides, you prefer to believe the lies anyway.

 

[AntonToo]

Yes applaud all you like but this pretty much proves that Flynn has flipped.

That is speculation and opinion. All this means at this point is Flynn is negotiating a plea deal in an attempt to avoid spending the next 60 years in jail. Any claim at this point that Flynn is working with Mueller to produce any evidence against the President is pure opinion and HOPE on behalf of desperate Trump-haters.

You are out to lunch and don't know wtf you are talking about.

Flynn just pleaded guilty to lying about actions that directly violate the Logan Act and there is NOW WAY IN HELL he went to plead with Russians without Trump's knowledge.

Trump even tweeted this after Russians modified their response to the sanctions after Flynns's conversations with Kyslyak

Can you explain how it is at all possible that Trump did not directly violate the Logan Act?

 

[easyt65]

Flynn just pleaded guilty to lying about actions that directly violate the Logan Act and there is NOW WAY IN HELL he went to plead with Russians without Trump's knowledge.

That is speculation and opinion. Neither you nor Mueller has evidence of that...or else you could provide that for us...?!

Perhaps you also missed the FACT that Flynn has not been indicted for violating the Logan Act...and how no one has been convicted of violating the Logan Act anyway.

 

[AntonToo]

Flynn just pleaded guilty to lying about actions that directly violate the Logan Act and there is NOW WAY IN HELL he went to plead with Russians without Trump's knowledge.

That is speculation and opinion. Neither you nor Mueller has evidence of that.

Perhaps you also missed the FACT that Flynn has not been indicted for violating the Logan Act...and how no one has been convicted of violating the Logan Act anyway.

LOL, how the fuck would you know what Mueller has?

Trump DIRECTLY AND PUBLICLY thanked Putin for changing his response to sanctions after Flynn's meeting with Kislyak for fucks sakes. That is right about slam dunk evidence.

Flynn not getting charged with violating Logan Act is probably part of the deal for him to testify that he was directed, or at least consented, by Trump to talk to Russians re. sanctions response.

 

[easyt65]

LOL, how the fuck would you know what Mueller has?

Trump DIRECTLY AND PUBLICLY thanked Putin for changing his response to sanctions for fucks sakes. That is right about slam dunk evidence.

Well, we all know what Mueller DOESN'T have!
We know that because all he has so far is 'Scooter Libby' indictments and desperate plea deals in an attempt to obtain what he does NOT have - EVIDENCE against Trump.

Mueller's own team is beginning to leak like a sieve, and if he had any evidence against Trump he would have already indicted Trump.


HOLY HELL! The President of the United States thanked the President of Russia for changing his response to US sanctions. Why Hasn't Trump been PERP WALKED yet? Oh yeah, because what he did is NOT ILLEGAL!

Bwuhahahaha!


It's not like Trump hid Russian crimes - not once but in 2009 and 2016 - as Mueller, Holder, Comey, Lunch, and Obama did. It's not like Trump took Millions of dollars from the KGB Bank like the Clintons did. It's not like Trump's Campaign manager took thousands of shares of un-reported Russian stock like Hillary's did. It's not like Trump's Campaign Manager's brother was working for the KGB Bank as an unregistered foreign Agt and working for the Russian Spy Agency that reportedly hacked the DNC. It's not like Trump knew the Russians were trying to hack Sr Govt officials and interfere in the election yet did nothing, like Barry did / failed to do.

Thank God there is no evidence Trump did any of THAT....like there is that the Democrats did!

 

[NightFox]

The problem is Trump the person.
I take issue with Trump's narcicisstic, self indulging personality

Who gives a fuck about his "personality"? The only thing that matters is whether or not he's a competent executive.

And he isn't. He isn't competent to lead the US.

Uh-huh, thanks for sharing your thoughtful and well reasoned opinion.

"A lot of lip service gets paid to being honest, but no one really wants to hear it unless what's being said is the party line." -- Colin Quinn

 

[Dragonlady]

Yes applaud all you like but this pretty much proves that Flynn has flipped.

That is speculation and opinion. All this means at this point is Flynn is negotiating a plea deal in an attempt to avoid spending the next 60 years in jail. Any claim at this point that Flynn is working with Mueller to produce any evidence against the President is pure opinion and HOPE on behalf of desperate Trump-haters.

Flynn pleaded guilty and in his elocution said that his contacts with the Russian ambassador were on the instructions of and in concert with other members of the administration/transition team.

In other words, my initial post is bang on absolutely correct. Flynn has flipped to keep his son out of jail and is singing like a birdie for Mueller and his team.

Like I said, they wouldn’t be letting Flynn off this easily if he couldn’t help them take down bigger fish.

This is the reason why Trump urged Comey to let Flynn go. Flynn knows where all the bodies are buried and Mueller has a whole team with shovels and nothing but time and money to do the digging.

 

[easyt65]

Flynn pleaded guilty and in his elocution said that his contacts with the Russian ambassador were on the instructions of and in concert with other members of the administration/transition team.

In other words, my initial post is bang on absolutely correct. Flynn has flipped to keep his son out of jail and is singing like a birdie for Mueller and his team.

Like I said, they wouldn’t be letting Flynn off this easily if he couldn’t help them take down bigger fish.

This is the reason why Trump urged Comey to let Flynn go. Flynn knows where all the bodies are buried and Mueller has a whole team with shovels and nothing but time and money to do the digging.

What EXACTLY is Flynn going to testify to regarding Trump?
---- Snowflakes are going to be crying and denying about this one:

"JUST IN: @BrianRoss on @ABC News Special Report: Michael Flynn promised "full cooperation to the Mueller team" and is prepared to testify that as a candidate, Donald Trump "directed him to make contact with the Russians."

ABC said later in an updated report that Flynn will say Trump asked him to make contact with Russia "initially as a way to work together to fight ISIS in Syria."
-- Stocks fall on report that Michael Flynn was directed by Trump to talk to Russians

NOTHING THERE! NO 'ELECTION COLLUSION' Barak Obama and Hillary both admitted that Presidential candidates and their teams make initial contact with foreign reps and groups prior to winning the election and entering the WH.

ACCORDING TO CNBC AND FLYNN, THIS IS WHAT FLYNN IS SAYING HE IS GOING TO TESTIFY HAPPENED.

In the end, Flynn is nothing more than one of 'Mueller's
Scooter Libby; indictments, and Mueller is trying to make this grand production that looks like he has evidence against Trump....WHEN IT IS BEING EXPOSED AGAIN THAT HE HAS NOTHING!

 

[Dragonlady]

Flynn pleaded guilty and in his elocution said that his contacts with the Russian ambassador were on the instructions of and in concert with other members of the administration/transition team.

In other words, my initial post is bang on absolutely correct. Flynn has flipped to keep his son out of jail and is singing like a birdie for Mueller and his team.

Like I said, they wouldn’t be letting Flynn off this easily if he couldn’t help them take down bigger fish.

This is the reason why Trump urged Comey to let Flynn go. Flynn knows where all the bodies are buried and Mueller has a whole team with shovels and nothing but time and money to do the digging.

What EXACTLY is Flynn going to testify to regarding Trump?
---- Snowflakes are going to be crying and denying about this one:

"JUST IN: @BrianRoss on @ABC News Special Report: Michael Flynn promised "full cooperation to the Mueller team" and is prepared to testify that as a candidate, Donald Trump "directed him to make contact with the Russians."

ABC said later in an updated report that Flynn will say Trump asked him to make contact with Russia "initially as a way to work together to fight ISIS in Syria."
-- Stocks fall on report that Michael Flynn was directed by Trump to talk to Russians

NOTHING THERE! NO 'ELECTION COLLUSION' Barak Obama and Hillary both admitted that Presidential candidates and their teams make initial contact with foreign reps and groups prior to winning the election and entering the WH.

ACCORDING TO CNBC AND FLYNN, THIS IS WHAT FLYNN IS SAYING HE IS GOING TO TESTIFY HAPPENED.

In the end, Flynn is nothing more than one of 'Mueller's
Scooter Libby; indictments, and Mueller is trying to make this grand production that looks like he has evidence against Trump....WHEN IT IS BEING EXPOSED AGAIN THAT HE HAS NOTHING!

You and the other Russian troll farm workers can deny, deflect and lie all you want but your “alternative facts” don’t stand up to scrutiny.

Initially you said there was no collusion at all. Then you tried “but Hillary”, and now you’re going with “all the candidates do it”.

There is a vast difference between making contact with a foreign government and making deals with a foreign government to help you defeat your opponent in exchange for favours with said government, like lifting sanctions.

Then there’s the lying and the ever changing narrative. At the beginning of the campaign, Trump said he knew Putin, and had a good relationship with him. By the Inauguration, he denied knowing ANY Russians and said no one on his campaign met with any Russians or had any contact with Russians.

Like I keep telling you, Congress and the Senate, who had information from their respective investigations that you and I don’t, stripped Trump of his ability to lift sanctions against Russia for a reason. It was a near unanimous vote in both Houses, which is rare. Those votes are because the House and Senate has concerns about Trump and Russia and they have all of the information you and I haven’t seen.

So get over yourself Evgeny. You and the other Russian trolls on this board aren’t fooling the smart posters here.