The Predicaments the Left can get itself into

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I've been thinking about doing a thread on this for a while. I constantly wonder how lefties manage to twist and contort their assorted causes into such great contradictions through their own rhetoric. Hoisting themselves on their own petard is always entertaining but how do they cope with such fails on such a consistent basis? There are lots of examples but one comes to mind... They promote the Climate Change nonsense, calling for reducing carbon dioxide because that is supposedly causing all our problems. They also lobby against "Big Oil" which is polluting our environment! BUT... at the very same time, they call for massive stimulus packages to build roads and bridges.... Roads which require asphalt made from petroleum products produced by Big Oil and concrete which is the leading man-made source of carbon dioxide in industry. How do they manage to twist themselves into such a contradicting pretzel? Most of the time, when you point this out to them, they just stare at you with Nancy Pelosi eyes for a moment and begin repeating the formulaic chant they've been taught like trained chimps.

I found it funny that this seems to have happened again this week. Steve Harvey, a prominent black television host, went and met with Donald Trump. He emerged from Trump Towers with cordial words for Trump and positive comments about their meeting-- and the lefties predictably lost their collective shit and went bonkers on him. He was relentlessly attacked six ways from Sunday. Called all kinds of terrible and awful names... Sell-out... Uncle Tom... etc. Boycotts were threatened... he had death threats!

Okay, here's where it gets good... The next day, The Donald meets with Martin Luther King III who also had positive things to say about their meeting! ......Uh oh! Can't you just see them saying... what are we going to say about this? It's MLK's son! Can we call him.... we can't call him a sell out or Uncle Tom, can we? :dunno:
 
This is what MLK's son had to say just to have his actual words on the record:

“He said that he is going to represent Americans — he’s said that over and over again,” Mr. King, the president of the Drum Major Institute, a progressive New York-based public policy organization, told reporters. “We will continue to evaluate that.”
 
He had essentially the same words as Steve Harvey about their meeting. However, Harvey was called an Uncle Tom and criticized for his positive comments, threatened with death and boycotts.

So why didn't we get the same condemnation for MLK III?
 
They promote the Climate Change nonsense, calling for reducing carbon dioxide because that is supposedly causing all our problems. They also lobby against "Big Oil" which is polluting our environment! BUT... at the very same time, they call for massive stimulus packages to build roads and bridges.... Roads which require asphalt made from petroleum products produced by Big Oil and concrete which is the leading man-made source of carbon dioxide in industry. How do they manage to twist themselves into such a contradicting pretzel? Ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa.........I was just thinking this today. You have to remember it wasn't their narrative to begin with, it was declared and adopted.

I found it funny that this seems to have happened again this week. Steve Harvey, a prominent black television host, went and met with Donald Trump. He emerged from Trump Towers with cordial words for Trump and positive comments about their meeting-- and the lefties predictably lost their collective shit and went bonkers on him. He was relentlessly attacked six ways from Sunday. Called all kinds of terrible and awful names... Sell-out... Uncle Tom... etc. Boycotts were threatened... he had death threats! They an emotional bunch too. Emotional + irrational = modern liberal.

Okay, here's where it gets good... The next day, The Donald meets with Martin Luther King III who also had positive things to say about their meeting! ......Uh oh! Can't you just see them saying... what are we going to say about this? It's MLK's son! Can we call him.... we can't call him a sell out or Uncle Tom, can we? No FN way dude, they read about MLK in the books, but somehow missed the message anyway.
 
Republicans are now the party of Trump. No morals, no values, all bullshit.

Trump pays out $25 million to settle Trump University litigation
Most republicans defend Trump conning people out of money. No morals or values. Trump represents what most republicans are.

Donald Trump defends size of his penis - CNNPolitics.com

Trump turned the republican debates into a dick measuring contest and who can call the most childish names like "little marco". republicans ate it up and love him for it, turned out in big numbers and voted for this shit.

That is what the republicans are: no family values, vote for the guy that talks about his penis and calls everyone else childish names.

Basically a disgrace.
 
He had essentially the same words as Steve Harvey about their meeting. However, Harvey was called an Uncle Tom and criticized for his positive comments, threatened with death and boycotts.

So why didn't we get the same condemnation for MLK III?

Unsure what Steve said, thus hard to judge although don't agree with death threats or Uncle Tom. Needing to "continue to evaluate" hardly shows being won over, it's holding reservations because a firm judgement cant be made. It reminded me of how Al Gore talked about meeting Trump.
 
I've been thinking about doing a thread on this for a while. I constantly wonder how lefties manage to twist and contort their assorted causes into such great contradictions through their own rhetoric. Hoisting themselves on their own petard is always entertaining but how do they cope with such fails on such a consistent basis? There are lots of examples but one comes to mind... They promote the Climate Change nonsense, calling for reducing carbon dioxide because that is supposedly causing all our problems. They also lobby against "Big Oil" which is polluting our environment! BUT... at the very same time, they call for massive stimulus packages to build roads and bridges.... Roads which require asphalt made from petroleum products produced by Big Oil and concrete which is the leading man-made source of carbon dioxide in industry. How do they manage to twist themselves into such a contradicting pretzel? Most of the time, when you point this out to them, they just stare at you with Nancy Pelosi eyes for a moment and begin repeating the formulaic chant they've been taught like trained chimps.

I found it funny that this seems to have happened again this week. Steve Harvey, a prominent black television host, went and met with Donald Trump. He emerged from Trump Towers with cordial words for Trump and positive comments about their meeting-- and the lefties predictably lost their collective shit and went bonkers on him. He was relentlessly attacked six ways from Sunday. Called all kinds of terrible and awful names... Sell-out... Uncle Tom... etc. Boycotts were threatened... he had death threats!

Okay, here's where it gets good... The next day, The Donald meets with Martin Luther King III who also had positive things to say about their meeting! ......Uh oh! Can't you just see them saying... what are we going to say about this? It's MLK's son! Can we call him.... we can't call him a sell out or Uncle Tom, can we? :dunno:
You are really struggling to find inconsistency. Federal roads are usually concrete, as if that was some big issue. And, objectives include renewable energy sources for using those roads - not that roads are even a majority of the needed infrastructure improvements. Beyond that, the left wing has NOT been unwilling to trade off objectives such as jobs and oil. There is no reason that solutions should be pure/total - an objective that is rarely wise.

More importantly, infrastructure improvement is nothing compared to the ACA, where the objective is to get health care coverage to all Americans.

That is an objective that 60% see as a responsibility of government (as I've posted links today).

And, it is an objective where we have made serious progress - leaving an historic low of only 9% without coverage and with clear ways to move to include more.
 
Unsure what Steve said, thus hard to judge although don't agree with death threats or Uncle Tom. Needing to "continue to evaluate" hardly shows being won over, it's holding reservations because a firm judgement cant be made. It reminded me of how Al Gore talked about meeting Trump.

But you didn't read his entire statement. He had cordial words for Trump and their meeting. Both men came away feeling their meeting was productive and were very encouraged. One was castigated as an Uncle Tom and sell out, threatened with death and boycotts... the other wasn't. Why? Because he was the son of MLK, Jr. Plain and simple. Once again, the left's own rhetoric comes back to slap them in their silly faces... and that was priceless to me.
 
Unsure what Steve said, thus hard to judge although don't agree with death threats or Uncle Tom. Needing to "continue to evaluate" hardly shows being won over, it's holding reservations because a firm judgement cant be made. It reminded me of how Al Gore talked about meeting Trump.

But you didn't read his entire statement. He had cordial words for Trump and their meeting. Both men came away feeling their meeting was productive and were very encouraged. One was castigated as an Uncle Tom and sell out, threatened with death and boycotts... the other wasn't. Why? Because he was the son of MLK, Jr. Plain and simple. Once again, the left's own rhetoric comes back to slap them in their silly faces... and that was priceless to me.
Did Trump grab a pussy, marry a 5th wife, or talk about his dick again like he did in the republican debate?
 
Al Gore said productive and beneficial as well. A meeting between Putin and Obama is even beneficial and productive for both involved, despite not seeing eye to eye. It's the strategically neutral position.
 
You are really struggling to find inconsistency. Federal roads are usually concrete, as if that was some big issue. And, objectives include renewable energy sources for using those roads - not that roads are even a majority of the needed infrastructure improvements. Beyond that, the left wing has NOT been unwilling to trade off objectives such as jobs and oil. There is no reason that solutions should be pure/total - an objective that is rarely wise.

More importantly, infrastructure improvement is nothing compared to the ACA, where the objective is to get health care coverage to all Americans.

That is an objective that 60% see as a responsibility of government (as I've posted links today).

And, it is an objective where we have made serious progress - leaving an historic low of only 9% without coverage and with clear ways to move to include more.

Again... Concrete is the leading industrial producer of carbon dioxide.

Second... on ACA... it is a debacle. It has done nothing it promised to do. You may have more people with insurance now, but it's insurance they can't afford to use for any practical purpose. They have much higher deductibles and premiums. The percentages you cite are all trumped up and bogus. This is typical of the left... smear some lipstick on that pig and call her Miss America!
 
The left have NO tolerance. You tow the liberal line or you get savaged. They come after you like a swarm of rabid foaming at the mouth rats covered in boils and festering wounds.

But the left are also cowards, they tend to pick on people who can't defend themselves.
 
Did Trump grab a pussy, marry a 5th wife, or talk about his dick again like he did in the republican debate?

Nope... He also didn't have sex with an intern half his age then lie under oath about it, leave people to die in Benghazi then blame a video, hide a secret private server in his closet and lie repeatedly to Congress about it or conspire with his party to rig the primaries against his opponents. But then, he's not a Clinton.
 
The left have NO tolerance. You tow the liberal line or you get savaged. They come after you like a swarm of rabid foaming at the mouth rats covered in boils and festering wounds.

But the left are also cowards, they tend to pick on people who can't defend themselves.

Yes... Unless your name happens to be MLK III... then they become strangely silent.
 
More importantly, infrastructure improvement is nothing compared to the ACA, where the objective is to get health care coverage to all Americans.

ACA is yet another example of the left's contradictions of principles. All it really accomplished is to line the pockets of rich corporate conglomerate insurance companies... at the same time lefties are out in the snow and ice protesting rich corporate conglomerates on Wall Street.
 
More importantly, infrastructure improvement is nothing compared to the ACA, where the objective is to get health care coverage to all Americans.

ACA is yet another example of the left's contradictions of principles. All it really accomplished is to line the pockets of rich corporate conglomerate insurance companies... at the same time lefties are out in the snow and ice protesting rich corporate conglomerates on Wall Street.
Well then tell the right to get its act together and implement something better now. All they have been doing is bitching and moaning. Lets see a solution!
 
Well then tell the right to get its act together and implement something better now. All they have been doing is bitching and moaning. Lets see a solution!

It's coming... be patient.
If they come up with something good I will give them all credit. A healthy populace is good for national security. Lets try to at least make it more affordable for all.
 
If they come up with something good I will give them all credit. A healthy populace is good for national security. Lets try to at least make it more affordable for all.

Well the way to make it more affordable is to get government out of it and let free market capitalism and competition work. Some of the changes proposed will do that with regard to insurance.

But I sincerely doubt you're going to give anyone credit for anything. You're an obedient little lefty who will be out there parroting the rhetoric your masters train you to repeat. Even when you have to contradict your own principles... doesn't seem to matter, you just ignore that because it's "your side" .... your sports team who you pull for no matter what.
 
You are really struggling to find inconsistency. Federal roads are usually concrete, as if that was some big issue. And, objectives include renewable energy sources for using those roads - not that roads are even a majority of the needed infrastructure improvements. Beyond that, the left wing has NOT been unwilling to trade off objectives such as jobs and oil. There is no reason that solutions should be pure/total - an objective that is rarely wise.

More importantly, infrastructure improvement is nothing compared to the ACA, where the objective is to get health care coverage to all Americans.

That is an objective that 60% see as a responsibility of government (as I've posted links today).

And, it is an objective where we have made serious progress - leaving an historic low of only 9% without coverage and with clear ways to move to include more.

Again... Concrete is the leading industrial producer of carbon dioxide.

Second... on ACA... it is a debacle. It has done nothing it promised to do. You may have more people with insurance now, but it's insurance they can't afford to use for any practical purpose. They have much higher deductibles and premiums. The percentages you cite are all trumped up and bogus. This is typical of the left... smear some lipstick on that pig and call her Miss America!

So now you're against concrete roads? How nuts are you gonna get?
 

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