The powers granted Congress

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    Here are the powers granted to Congress.

    LII: Constitution

    Someone show me the one that allows for Social Security.

    The one that allows for Government run health Care.

    The one that allows the Government to Nationalize Banks and then tell them what they can and can not pay their employees.

    Just for starters.
     
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    They grasp desperately at the "general welfare" part, as their excuse for expropriating anything everything, and using it to feather the nests of people who did nothing to earn it. Then, when pointed to The Federalist #41, only written by the architect of that document, they cynically claim that the Federalist and Anti-federalist papers weren't codified into law and are therefore irrelevant.

    But you already knew that, didn't you?
     
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    There is no general welfare clause, as pointed out such a clause would violate the very premise of the entire document which was to LIMIT the power of the Federal Government. The founders argued in the Federalist papers that no Bill of Rights was needed as the Constitution was very limited very specific as to the powers granted the Federal Government.

    Thiose that argue now that there is a general welfare clause ignore the relaity of the facts.
     
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    I don't get all of these "states rights" arguments with respect to the desire for there to be no uniformity. At this stage of the game it seems pointless and costly and what benefit is there really? I haven't heard of any direct issue, just a lot of wailing and sobbing.
     
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    This isn't about state's powers...Not anywhere near.

    But thanks for playing...Johnny has a case of Bardahl for you as a parting gift.
     
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    A document exists that regulates our Government. A process to change said document exists as well, written right in said document. Want change? DO THE PROPER PROCEDURES. Pretty fucking simple concept, indeed.

    Failure to make the change means the Government does not have the authority or the power they want and it means they do not get to just ignore the Constitution to get it either.
     
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    Well fuck me sideways if I dont see the words provide for and general welfare in the first clause...

    I dont agree with government run health care, politically, but I dont think it is repugnant to the Constitution.
     

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