The “Palestinians” – A Fictional “People"

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Everyone is in a tizzy over the Palestinian bid for United Nations’ recognition of “Palestine” as a member state. Will they go through with the bid? Won’t they? Can the United States stop them? Should they?

What no one is doing is challenging the Palestinian claim to the lands known as the “West Bank” – or in fact their claim to ‘peoplehood’. The only thing being challenged is the timing and the road being taken to statehood. “Palestinian” legitimacy is being assumed… and we know where assuming takes us.

The idea that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is an old one – centuries or millenia old is a pure fiction… but it is repeated over and over again.

Let’s take a few minutes to get our facts straight.

Where does the name “Palestine” come from?
In 135 AD, the Roman Empire attempted to break the strong connection between the Jewish People and the Land of Israel by renaming the area “Palestine” after the Philistines that had lived in the area during Biblical times.

The Philistines were a Greek-like people, not Arabs, like the “Palestinians” like to claim. The Philistines disappeared from the area by the 1st Century AD.

Ever since the Romans renamed the area – the name “Palestine” stuck. Jews and Arabs were both referred to as “Palestinians”.

The “Palestine Mandate” given to the British to administer after the First World War included both what are now the countries of Jordan and Israel.

In 1922, the British broke off 80% of the Palestine Mandate and gave it to the Hussein family – creating the country of Jordan. The Palestinians living in that area became Jordanians.

The rest of Palestine – which is now Israel – was then to be divided by the United Nations in 1947 into two states – one Arab, one Jewish. The Jews said ‘yes’, the Arabs said ‘no’ – unable to tolerate any Jewish presence in the area.

Israel declared independence in May 1948. The Jewish Palestinians then became Israelis. The Arabs in Israel had the option of becoming citizens of the Jewish state – some did and some did not. Those that did became Israelis and those that did not kept the denomination of “Palestinian”.

What needs to be understood is that these “Palestinians” are Arabs with no special claims to the Land. They chose not to be part of Jordan or Israel. There is no longer “Palestine” on the map. It is either Jordan or Israel – to claim a ‘Palestinian’ state is disingenuous.

The “Palestinian People” are a creation – a way of delegitimizing the Jewish claim to Israel. If, as they claim, the Palestinians were there first, then any Jews living in the land must be “occupiers” and do not belong there. We first see the “Palestinians” in 1964 when Yasser Arafat created the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), a terrorist organization with the goal of destroying Israel. (Please note that the PLO was established before the 1967 war in which Israel captured the “West Bank” and the Gaza Strip – not in response to the so-called occupation.)

That these “people” are refugees is a joke. They chose not to become citizens of either Jordan or Israel. During 1948, these Arabs left their homes in response to the invading Arab armies telling them they would be allowed to return to their homes after the Jews were driven into the sea.

It’s 60+ years later and they’re still sitting in camps bemoaning their fate. Who’s fault is it? Saudi Arabia and the oil rich Arab countries are unable to take in and care for their brothers? Guess so – but it clearly shows that that the Palestinians are there as willing pawns in the battle against Israel.

The accepted wisdom is that since the “Palestinians” occupy the same land as the Jews we must have negotiations to settle our differences – creating a two state solution, but why?

The “Palestinians” are an historical fiction. They are a tool of the Arab world, which has never accepted a Jewish presence, to destroy Israel. It is time to challenge the legitimacy of the “Palestinians” as a ‘people’ and certainly their right to a state at Israel’s expense.

The “Palestinians” – A Fictional “People”
 
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Israel is a foreign military occupation of Palestine.

Guy Milliere, Eminent Professor of History and Political Science, Sorbonne, Paris :lol:
No one had heard of a Palestinian people before the mid-1960s. They did not exist. Israel under the British Mandate until Israel' s Independence in 1948 was called Palestine. All Jews who were born there until i948 had the word « Palestine » stamped on their passports. The current Palestinians are those Arabs who, for a variety of reasons, decided to leave the land during the 1947 War of Independence, when five countries – Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq – attacked the 600,000 people in the fledgling state of Israel the day after its birth, hoping to kill it in the crib.
The War Against Israel Goes On- by Guy Millière | DRZZ.fr

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Former PLO Leader Zuheir Mohsen...
The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism.
Zuheir Mohsen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Israel has been attacking A Fictional “People" for a hundred years and has not won yet.:clap2::clap2::clap2:
 
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Israel has been attacking A Fictional “People" for a hundred years and has not won yet.:cap2::clp2::clap2:

My message to the loathed Jews is that there is no god but allah, we will chase you everywhere We are a nation that drinks blood, and we know that there is no better blood than the blood of the Jews. We will not leave you alone until we have quenched our thirst with your blood, and our children's thirst with your blood, we will not rest until you leave the Muslim countries.
 
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For a"fictional people" you sure spend a lot of timer hating on them. Penis envy?

Allah, oh our Lord
Vanquish your enemies, enemies of the religion [Islam]
in all places
Allah, strike the Jews and their sympathizers,
the Christians and their supporters
the Communists and their adherents
Allah, count them and kill them to the last one,
and don't even leave even one.
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[The American Jewish leadership not only allowed Israel to attack their host nation on 911 but also acted to cover it up.

Puta, you forgot to take your anti-psychotic medication? No wonder spain is so fucked up, **** :cuckoo:

Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Stresses Importance of US--Israel Relationship
Terrific to spend time with General Ashkenazi discussing critical areas of mutual interest. It is the recognition of the importance of this relationship, the strength of the relationship, the criticality of the relationship, The need that we have as two militaries to meet challenges together has never been more important and I would reaffirm the strength of the friendship, the relationship, and the importance of the engagement. I always learn when I come to Israel. Israeli interests are also vital national interests of the United States. This relationship is as strong as it's ever been and will continue to grow
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4iKIYqxaOY]Admiral Mike G. Mullen meet with General Staff, LTG Gabi Ashkenazi , Tel Aviv June 27, 2010 - YouTube[/ame]


Palestinians celebrate 9/11
 
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Fictional people cannot fire rockets into Isreal.

Fictional people cannot leave a wake of innocent bodies behind them.

Only real live people can do that.
 
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Historical Myths in Israel/Palestine

University of Southern CaliforniaL The Roman Invention of Palestine
Rome conquered Jerusalem in 70 A.D. ending the national independence gained during the Jewish War (66-70 A.D.). Despite being under Roman control, much of the land in Judea was still in Jewish hands; the Jews were neither exiled nor enslaved. Seventy years after the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem, the Jews in Judea began a war against the Roman Empire (4a). The war lasted for three years from late summer A.D. 132 through late autumn A.D. 135. The war was led by Shim’on ben (or Bar) Kosiba, who became known as “Bar Kokhba” or “Son of the Star.”

The emperor Hadrian found himself forced to deal with this serious Jewish threat to the Roman Empire. His Pax Romana was threatened by the Jewish War. Hadrian sent armies to Judea, but did not find victory against Bar Kokhba’s guerillas. The turning point in the war came when Hadrian called in one of his best generals, Julius Severus, to fight exclusively on the Jewish front. Severus slowly closed in around Bar Kokhba—and without outside help from the Jewish Diaspora which Bar Kokhba was counting on—was able to defeat the Jewish revolt (6d).

As punishment, the Jews were driven from Jerusalem and the gentiles moved in. The city was called Aelia Capitolina and was a pagan city—built on the ruins of Jerusalem. The province was renamed from Judea to Syria-Palaestina to further remove the Jews from their land. Practicing Judaism was outlawed and scholars who supported to rebellion were executed (5b). Soon after the defeat of Bar Kokhba, Hadrian died and Antoninus Pius ascended the throne. Jews slowly regained their cultural and religious freedoms back as Antoninus allowed them to practice Judaism
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Palestinians" [are an] Arab people No one heard of before 1967 before Israeli governments certified this piece of Propaganda... As has been noted many times before, prior to 1948, that is before Jews had begun to call themselves Israelis, the ONLY persons known as "Palestinians" were Jews, with the Arabs much preferrring to identify themselves as part of the great Arab nation.
- David Basch


"...Palestine does not belong to the "Palestinians" and never did. They did not even call themselves Palestinians until the middle 1960s. Before that, the word "Palestinian" meant "Jewish," while the local Arabs called themselves simply "Arabs."
The creation of the PLO by Gamal Abdul Nasser in 1964 was a brilliant ploy to distort the parameters of the dispute, largely for propaganda purposes.
It was inconvenient to have a conflict between 20-odd Arab states with an area 530 times greater than Israel, a population more than 30 times greater than Israel's and enormously richer natural resources.
Far better to Invent a "Palestinian" nation that would be the eternal "underdog," - a nation consisting partly of Immigrants from Syria and other Arab countries who came to benefit from the rapidly growing economy Zionist Jews created..."
- westerndefense.org


"There is NO language known as Palestinian. - There is NO distinct Palestinian culture.
There has NEVER been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians.
Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another Recent Invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc. Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9% of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of 1% of the landmass.
But that's too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today. Greed. Pride. Envy. Covetousness. No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough....""
- Joseph Farah, Arab-American journalist


So before the creation of the State of Israel, who were the Palestinians?
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Until 1950, the name of the Jerusalem Post was THE PALESTINE POST;
the journal of the Zionist Organization of America was NEW PALESTINE;
Bank Leumi was the ANGLO-PALESTINE BANK;
the Israel Electric Company was the PALESTINE ELECTRIC COMPANY;
there was the PALESTINE FOUNDATION FUND and.... the PALESTINE PHILHARMONIC.
All these were JEWISH organizations.
In America, Zionist youngsters sang "PALESTINE, MY PALESTINE", "PALESTINE SCOUT SONG" and "PALESTINE SPRING SONG" In general, the terms Palestine and Palestinian referred to the region of Palestine as it was. Thus "Palestinian Jew" and "Palestinian Arab" are straightforward expressions. "Palestine Post" and "Palestine Philharmonic" refer to these bodies as they existed in a place then known as Palestine.
The adoption of a Palestinian identity by the Arabs of Palestine is a Recent phenomenon.
Until the establishment of the State of Israel, and for another Decade or so, the term Palestinian applied almost exclusively to the Jews.
- 'Palestinians' - The Peace FAQ
 
Alhambra Theatre, Jaffa, 1937, flying Palestinian flag.

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