The Palestine Myth:

[Roudy]

Let us hear what other Arabs have said:

"There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".
- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937 -

"There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not".
- Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian, 1946 -

"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria".
- Representant of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations, 1956 -

Concerning the Holy Land, the chairman of the Syrian Delegation at the Paris Peace Conference in February 1919 stated:

"The only Arab domination since the Conquest in 635 c.e. hardly lasted, as such, 22 years".

 

[Roudy]

The preceding declarations by Arab politicians have been done before 1967, as they had not the slightest knowledge of the existence of any Palestinian people. How and when did they change their mind and decided that such people existed? When the State of Israel was reborn in 1948 c.e., the "Palestinians" did not exist yet, the Arabs had still not discovered that "ancient" people. They were too busy with the purpose of annihilating the new Sovereign State and did not intend to create any Palestinian entity, but only to distribute the land among the already existing Arab states. They were defeated. They attempted again to destroy Israel in 1967, and were humiliated in only six days, in which they lost the lands that they had usurped in 1948. In those 19 years of Arab occupation of Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria and the Gaza Strip, neither Jordan nor Egypt suggested to create a "Palestinian" state, since the still non-existing Palestinians would have never claimed their alleged right to have their own state... Paradoxically, during the British Mandate, it was not any Arab group but the Jews that were known as "Palestinians"!

What other Arabs declared after the Six-Day War:
"There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".
- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -

"You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people".
- Syrian dictator Hafez Assad to the PLO leader Yassir Arafat -

"As I lived in Palestine, everyone I knew could trace their heritage back to the original country their great grandparents came from. Everyone knew their origin was not from the Canaanites, but ironically, this is the kind of stuff our education in the Middle East included. The fact is that today's Palestinians are immigrants from the surrounding nations! I grew up well knowing the history and origins of today's Palestinians as being from Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Christians from Greece, muslim Sherkas from Russia, muslims from Bosnia, and the Jordanians next door. My grandfather, who was a dignitary in Bethlehem, almost lost his life by Abdul Qader Al-Husseni (the leader of the Palestinian revolution) after being accused of selling land to Jews. He used to tell us that his village Beit Sahur (The Shepherds Fields) in Bethlehem County was empty before his father settled in the area with six other families. The town has now grown to 30,000 inhabitants".

 

[Roudy]

Origin and identity of the so-called Palestinians

Palestinians are the newest of all the peoples on the face of the Earth, and began to exist in a single day by a kind of supernatural phenomenon that is unique in the whole history of mankind.

“Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?”
“We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians - they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”.
“When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out”.

This declaration by a true "Palestinian" should have some significance for a sincerely neutral observer. Indeed, there is no such a thing like a Palestinian people, or a Palestinian culture, or a Palestinian language, or a Palestinian history. There has never been any Palestinian state, neither any Palestinian archaeological find nor coinage. The present-day "Palestinians" are an Arab people, with Arab culture, Arabic language and Arab history. They have their own Arab states from where they came into the Land of Israel about one century ago to contrast the Jewish immigration. That is the historical truth. They were Jordanians (another recent British invention, as there has never been any people known as "Jordanians"), and after the Six-Day War in which Israel utterly defeated the coalition of nine Arab states and took legitimate possession of Judea and Samaria, the Arab dwellers in those regions underwent a kind of anthropological miracle and discovered that they were Palestinians - something they did not know the day before. Of course, these people having a new identity had to build themselves a history, namely, had to steal some others' history, and the only way that the victims of the theft would not complain is if those victims do no longer exist. Therefore, the Palestinian leaders claimed two contradictory lineages from ancient peoples that inhabited in the Land of Israel: the Canaanites and the Philistines. Let us consider both of them before going on with the Palestinian issue.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Fuck Palestine and fuck the Pals.

 

[Roudy]

Fuck Palestine and fuck the Pals.

 

[Billo_Really]

Doesn't matter what you call them, there were over a million people living in that area before the zionists showed up with their racist, apartheid ideology.

 

[notatallanti]

'Palestine' certainly was never a country nor even a people and is definitely a political device manipulated for the gain of certain interests.
Israel, on the other hand, may have been a country at one time, but any connection with the modern state imposed on the region by outsiders is tenuous at best. It, too, is used for the aggrandizement of a limited number of individuals. Why would 20th century Europeans install themselves so precariously where they were not wanted? Is this politics or religion? 'Zionists' were not particularly clerical or faith oriented. It could be said that they were just socialist minded intellectuals who agreed to associate themselves with the group their societies imposed upon them, 'Jewish'.
What is 'Jewish'? Any human group can be defined in various ways, but behind it all we know today that we are all the same, all very closely related. There is only one race, the human race. 'Jews' are no more a separate people than Presbyterians are.
The foolishness of this mid-twentieth century event should be obvious to all. If a part of the European population identified as Jews still felt insecure after the end of WWII, there was a safe place waiting for them - America. All this violence and trouble was totally unnecessary and lamentable.

 

[Billo_Really]

'Palestine' certainly was never a country nor even a people and is definitely a political device manipulated for the gain of certain interests.
Israel, on the other hand, may have been a country at one time, but any connection with the modern state imposed on the region by outsiders is tenuous at best. It, too, is used for the aggrandizement of a limited number of individuals. Why would 20th century Europeans install themselves so precariously where they were not wanted? Is this politics or religion? 'Zionists' were not particularly clerical or faith oriented. It could be said that they were just socialist minded intellectuals who agreed to associate themselves with the group their societies imposed upon them, 'Jewish'.
What is 'Jewish'? Any human group can be defined in various ways, but behind it all we know today that we are all the same, all very closely related. There is only one race, the human race. 'Jews' are no more a separate people than Presbyterians are.
The foolishness of this mid-twentieth century event should be obvious to all. If a part of the European population identified as Jews still felt insecure after the end of WWII, there was a safe place waiting for them - America. All this violence and trouble was totally unnecessary and lamentable.

Zionists are racist assholes using religion to further their political goals.

 

[Lipush]

Let us hear what other Arabs have said:

"There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".
- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937 -

"There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not".
- Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian, 1946 -

"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria".
- Representant of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations, 1956 -

Concerning the Holy Land, the chairman of the Syrian Delegation at the Paris Peace Conference in February 1919 stated:

"The only Arab domination since the Conquest in 635 c.e. hardly lasted, as such, 22 years".

You have the article including those quotes among others? It's a very good piece of knowledge source.

 

[Lipush]

Doesn't matter what you call them, there were over a million people living in that area before the zionists showed up with their racist, apartheid ideology.

OVER A MILLION? ARABS?

Proves you don't know history very well, now, do you?

 

[Hollie]

Doesn't matter what you call them, there were over a million people living in that area before the zionists showed up with their racist, apartheid ideology.

There were Syrians, Jordanians and various other Arabs squatters illegally occupying the land.

 

[Billo_Really]

There were Syrians, Jordanians and various other Arabs squatters illegally occupying the land.

Nope. They were living there for generations.

 

[Billo_Really]

OVER A MILLION? ARABS?

Proves you don't know history very well, now, do you?

Over 750,000 were driven out because of jewish terrorism and violence. And another 250-500,000 were driven out during the second exodus due to more zionist violence.

Do the math!

And in the event you don't like math, but prefer pretty pictures, here's the percentage of land ownership in that area around 1948.





So if arabs owned 90% of the land, how many people is that?

 

[Lipush]

OVER A MILLION? ARABS?

Proves you don't know history very well, now, do you?

Over 750,000 were driven out because of jewish terrorism and violence. And another 250-500,000 were driven out during the second exodus due to more zionist violence.

Do the math!

And in the event you don't like math, but prefer pretty pictures, here's the percentage of land ownership in that area around 1948.





So if arabs owned 90% of the land, how many people is that?

The Arabs were strangers while jews natives.

 

[Billo_Really]

The Arabs were strangers while jews natives.

Nope. They both were natives. There was just more arabs.

 

[Lipush]

The Arabs were strangers while jews natives.

Nope. They both were natives. There was just more arabs.

Not true. in the beginning of the 30's century, before 1917, where where those majority of Arabs? Clans, is all. nothing to do with our homeland.

 

[Billo_Really]

Not true. in the beginning of the 30's century, before 1917, where where those majority of Arabs? Clans, is all. nothing to do with our homeland.

They were in Palestine, which is their homeland too.

You can't migrate into an area and automatically have more rights than the people already living there.

 

[Roudy]

Doesn't matter what you call them, there were over a million people living in that area before the zionists showed up with their racist, apartheid ideology.

It does matter. They never considered themselves Palestinians or part of a separate "people" belonging to a land, and most of the million people you talk about got blended into Jordan when it was formed. So we are talking only about 250,000 people, the rest were Arab invaders that came looking for jobs and opportunities the Jews brought with them. The Jewish population of Jerusalem has been higher than the Muslims / Arabs for the last 200 years.

We should believe to the Arabs when they say the Palestinian people are a MYTH. Their terrorist leader and founder Arafat was, after all, Egyptian.

 

[Roudy]

'Palestine' certainly was never a country nor even a people and is definitely a political device manipulated for the gain of certain interests.
Israel, on the other hand, may have been a country at one time, but any connection with the modern state imposed on the region by outsiders is tenuous at best. It, too, is used for the aggrandizement of a limited number of individuals. Why would 20th century Europeans install themselves so precariously where they were not wanted? Is this politics or religion? 'Zionists' were not particularly clerical or faith oriented. It could be said that they were just socialist minded intellectuals who agreed to associate themselves with the group their societies imposed upon them, 'Jewish'.
What is 'Jewish'? Any human group can be defined in various ways, but behind it all we know today that we are all the same, all very closely related. There is only one race, the human race. 'Jews' are no more a separate people than Presbyterians are.
The foolishness of this mid-twentieth century event should be obvious to all. If a part of the European population identified as Jews still felt insecure after the end of WWII, there was a safe place waiting for them - America. All this violence and trouble was totally unnecessary and lamentable.

Zionists are racist assholes using religion to further their political goals.

Ah I see, so there is no such thing as "the Jewish people". Maybe the Nazis didn't get the memo when they started rounding up "the Jewish people" to be murdered later, or maybe the Spanish Inquisitors didn't get their memo when they tortured and killed "the Jewish people", or maybe the Crusaders did get theirs, or maybe the Russians didnt get their memo when they went around conducting pogroms against "the Jewish people" of Russia, or perhaps neither did Muslims, when they attacked and slaughtered "the Jewish people" of Mecca 1400 years ago, and other subsequent massacres of Jews by Musims, culminating in special religious laws that subjugated and oppressed "the Jewish people" as second class citizens called Dhimmis in the Muslim world.

I don't know what got into them. Didn't someone tell them that there is no such thing as the Jewish people? Ha ha ha!

 

[Roudy]

Doesn't matter what you call them, there were over a million people living in that area before the zionists showed up with their racist, apartheid ideology.

OVER A MILLION? ARABS?

Proves you don't know history very well, now, do you?

They pull their facts out of their anus.