The Only True Supreme Court

[JakeStarkey]

Even Roberts, Alito, Gorsuch, Thomas, and Kavanaugh understand we live in a world that technology and time have transformed unalterably from that of the Founders.

 

[BS Filter]

Even Roberts, Alito, Gorsuch, Thomas, and Kavanaugh understand we live in a world that technology and time has transformed unalterably from that of the Founders.

So? The Constitution has nothing to do with our culture and technology. The Constitution is a document that tells government how far it can go into our lives and it's limits, not technology or he culture. There is nothing in the Constitution referring to same-sex marriage. Marriage laws have always been left up to the states.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Technology and culture inevitably influence systems of government. We do not live in 1789. We live today with the needs of today. Nothing in the Constitution says we can't have same-sex marriage or abortion. Marriage is left to the states, unless their laws impede on the civil liberties guaranteed in the Constitution. The Justices decide that.

 

[BS Filter]

Technology and culture inevitably influence systems of government. We do not live in 1789. We live today with the needs of today. Nothing in the Constitution says we can't have same-sex marriage or abortion. Marriage is left to the states, unless their laws impede on the civil liberties guaranteed in the Constitution. The Justices decide that.

Culture and technology have absolutely nothing to do with the Constitution. The Constitution clearly states that anything not mentioned in the Constitution is left up to the states, read the 10th Amendment. Abortion and marriage are not mentioned.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Tough, BS Filter, you are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

The history of SCOTUS disagrees with your opinion.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Even Roberts, Alito, Gorsuch, Thomas, and Kavanaugh understand we live in a world that technology and time has transformed unalterably from that of the Founders.

So? The Constitution has nothing to do with our culture and technology. The Constitution is a document that tells government how far it can go into our lives and it's limits, not technology or he culture. There is nothing in the Constitution referring to same-sex marriage. Marriage laws have always been left up to the states.

"... tells government how far it can go into our lives and it's limits, ..."
Article 1
Section 8 - Powers of Congress


Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defenceand general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

Post Roads;

Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Inform SCOTUS, please.

 

[BS Filter]

Tough, BS Filter, you are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

The history of SCOTUS disagrees with your opinion.

Quoting a socialist like Lawrence O'Donnell doesn't really help your cause. Many Supreme Court Justices agree with me. The fact you have ONE more justice than 4 that agree with me on same-sex marriage can be easily fixed during the Trump Presidency. That's "tough" for you. The ramifications of Hillary losing is gonna be felt for generations. There is no such thing as "settled law", regardless of what Schumer and other leftists claim.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Any more than you quoting Stephen Miller or Cal Thomas. But I did not quote O'Donnell. Very few judges argree with you. And if Kavanaugh is confirmed, same sex marriage is very safe with SCOTUS. There is such a thing as stare decisis, and that gives sane America comfort.

 

[BS Filter]

Any more than you quoting Stephen Miller or Cal Thomas. But I did not quote O'Donnell. Very few judges argree with you. And if Kavanaugh is confirmed, same sex marriage is very safe with SCOTUS. There is such a thing as stare decisis, and that gives sane America comfort.

I haven't quoted Stephen Miller or Cal Thomas, LOL. Lawrence O'Donnell uses that line often, "you are entitled to your opinion, but not your own facts. The FACTS are the decision on same-sex marriage was 5-4. That is easily fixed during Trump's Presidency. You're not helping your cause by calling those that disagree with you insane.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Trump has just proven that he is not who we'd like him to be.

While he has initiated many things beneficial to Americans, he remains, like ALL other Presidents, faithful to the Deep State.
He probably has no choice. John F. Kennedy vowed to dissolve the Deep State.

There are teasings of a wall, but it's only to keep his base hopeful. There will be no wall.

Kavanaugh is not a friend of right wing values. His view on government is EXACTLY in line with the far Leftists on this forum.
His views on the 2nd seem acceptable to Constitutionalists, but I say once on the bench he will completely betray that sooner or later.
It's no wonder to me that radical leftists are fine with this choice and call it a good and fair one.
Wait and see.

"It's no wonder to me that radical leftists are fine with this choice ..."

Not so.

Check out the angst from the Left.....

9. "Brett Kavanaugh's nomination is a victory for 'originalists'
Donald Trump’s court pick belongs to a group of conservative legal thinkers who believe in a strict, textual interpretation of the constitution.

That’s troubling."
Brett Kavanaugh's nomination is a victory for 'originalists' | Jill Abramson


Get that?????

"That's troubling!"



I'm lovin' it!


10. Originalists begin with the belief that ours should be a government of laws, and not one of men, or of judges, and this book addresses that question of judicial philosophy.

1. “The originalism looks to the original public-meaning of the Constitution and its amendments at the time they were enacted. The meaning of the Constitution must remain the same, until it is properly changed. And it cannot be changed unilaterally by the courts, or even by courts acting in conjunction with other branches of government.” Professor Randy Barnett, in “Originalism,” p. 262.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Any more than you quoting Stephen Miller or Cal Thomas. But I did not quote O'Donnell. Very few judges argree with you. And if Kavanaugh is confirmed, same sex marriage is very safe with SCOTUS. There is such a thing as stare decisis, and that gives sane America comfort.

I haven't quoted Stephen Miller or Cal Thomas, LOL. Lawrence O'Donnell uses that line often, "you are entitled to your opinion, but not your own facts. The FACTS are the decision on same-sex marriage was 5-4. That is easily fixed during Trump's Presidency. You're not helping your cause by calling those that disagree with you insane.

All good people use good lines, and that one applies to you to the bone. And, yes, you might as well be a Stephen Miller or Cal Thomas, just can't tell the difference. I imagine the mentally affected don't like being reminded of their deficiencies. Well, that's tough. You can disagree with me all you want, which does not make you insane in itself, but the FACT is that you should have almost no hope for an overturn of same-sex marriage by SCOTUS because of Kavanaugh and Gorsuch.

 

[bodecea]

I see that the less astute need a primer on what they actually stand for....

The view of the Founders, classical liberals, and conservatives
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


The aim of Liberals, communists, fascists, Socialists, Nazis and Progressives
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.



" Franklin Roosevelt had pictured a place where citizens were joined in a collective enterprise ... Reagan pictured a more individualistic America where everyone would flourish once freed from the shackles of the state, and so the watchwords became self-reliance and small government."
The Liberal Crackup




Find the conservative in this pic:

All of them except for the one not saluting.

 

[BS Filter]

Any more than you quoting Stephen Miller or Cal Thomas. But I did not quote O'Donnell. Very few judges argree with you. And if Kavanaugh is confirmed, same sex marriage is very safe with SCOTUS. There is such a thing as stare decisis, and that gives sane America comfort.

I haven't quoted Stephen Miller or Cal Thomas, LOL. Lawrence O'Donnell uses that line often, "you are entitled to your opinion, but not your own facts. The FACTS are the decision on same-sex marriage was 5-4. That is easily fixed during Trump's Presidency. You're not helping your cause by calling those that disagree with you insane.

All good people use good lines, and that one applies to you to the bone. And, yes, you might as well be a Stephen Miller or Cal Thomas, just can't tell the difference. I imagine the mentally affected don't like being reminded of their deficiencies. Well, that's tough. You can disagree with me all you want, which does not make you insane in itself, but the FACT is that you should have almost no hope for an overturn of same-sex marriage by SCOTUS because of Kavanaugh and Gorsuch.

This post shows your short-sightedness. Trump has only been in office a year and a half. That means probably 6 and a half more years or 2 and a half at the least. How long do you think Ginsberg can hold out?

 

[bodecea]

8. Judges, we are taught, are saints, and have only the best interests of America at heart.

This is the sort of propaganda that produces lock-step Liberals.


They are simply well connected men, mere mortals, with no better ability to recognize rectitude than anyone else.

The give-away is how often they bow to party and bias.

If they do not pay homage to the Constitution, they should be swept from the bench.




“Today, however, the judiciary seems to have surpassed Congress and rival even the executive branch as it has, particularly in the last century, assumed powers unto itself that the Constitution's framers never intended.

Given his record and views of the Constitution, President Trump's latest Supreme Court nominee, Brett Kavanaugh, is in line with Hamilton's thinking,…""[A] limited Constitution ... can be preserved in practice no other way than through the medium of courts of justice, whose duty it must be to declare all acts contrary to the manifest tenor of the Constitution void."



For some Democrats, it's all about abortion and same-sex marriage, neither of which are mentioned in the Constitution and both of which have been created as rights by a majority of justices whose fealty appears to have been to public opinion and their own biases, rather than to the nation's founding document.” Cal Thomas - The Brett Kavanaugh Nomination

Cal Thomas.....

 

[BS Filter]

8. Judges, we are taught, are saints, and have only the best interests of America at heart.

This is the sort of propaganda that produces lock-step Liberals.


They are simply well connected men, mere mortals, with no better ability to recognize rectitude than anyone else.

The give-away is how often they bow to party and bias.

If they do not pay homage to the Constitution, they should be swept from the bench.




“Today, however, the judiciary seems to have surpassed Congress and rival even the executive branch as it has, particularly in the last century, assumed powers unto itself that the Constitution's framers never intended.

Given his record and views of the Constitution, President Trump's latest Supreme Court nominee, Brett Kavanaugh, is in line with Hamilton's thinking,…""[A] limited Constitution ... can be preserved in practice no other way than through the medium of courts of justice, whose duty it must be to declare all acts contrary to the manifest tenor of the Constitution void."



For some Democrats, it's all about abortion and same-sex marriage, neither of which are mentioned in the Constitution and both of which have been created as rights by a majority of justices whose fealty appears to have been to public opinion and their own biases, rather than to the nation's founding document.” Cal Thomas - The Brett Kavanaugh Nomination

Cal Thomas.....

He's right on.

 

[bodecea]

Technology and culture inevitably influence systems of government. We do not live in 1789. We live today with the needs of today. Nothing in the Constitution says we can't have same-sex marriage or abortion. Marriage is left to the states, unless their laws impede on the civil liberties guaranteed in the Constitution. The Justices decide that.

Culture and technology have absolutely nothing to do with the Constitution. The Constitution clearly states that anything not mentioned in the Constitution is left up to the states, read the 10th Amendment. Abortion and marriage are not mentioned.

However, the 14th amendment does state that the government, state included cannot treat some citizens differently under the law without compelling and legally proved reasons.

 

[BS Filter]

Technology and culture inevitably influence systems of government. We do not live in 1789. We live today with the needs of today. Nothing in the Constitution says we can't have same-sex marriage or abortion. Marriage is left to the states, unless their laws impede on the civil liberties guaranteed in the Constitution. The Justices decide that.

Culture and technology have absolutely nothing to do with the Constitution. The Constitution clearly states that anything not mentioned in the Constitution is left up to the states, read the 10th Amendment. Abortion and marriage are not mentioned.

However, the 14th amendment does state that the government, state included cannot treat some citizens differently under the law without compelling and legally proved reasons.

Okay, and which citizens is the 14th Amendment referring to?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Any more than you quoting Stephen Miller or Cal Thomas. But I did not quote O'Donnell. Very few judges argree with you. And if Kavanaugh is confirmed, same sex marriage is very safe with SCOTUS. There is such a thing as stare decisis, and that gives sane America comfort.

I haven't quoted Stephen Miller or Cal Thomas, LOL. Lawrence O'Donnell uses that line often, "you are entitled to your opinion, but not your own facts. The FACTS are the decision on same-sex marriage was 5-4. That is easily fixed during Trump's Presidency. You're not helping your cause by calling those that disagree with you insane.

All good people use good lines, and that one applies to you to the bone. And, yes, you might as well be a Stephen Miller or Cal Thomas, just can't tell the difference. I imagine the mentally affected don't like being reminded of their deficiencies. Well, that's tough. You can disagree with me all you want, which does not make you insane in itself, but the FACT is that you should have almost no hope for an overturn of same-sex marriage by SCOTUS because of Kavanaugh and Gorsuch.

This post shows your short-sightedness. Trump has only been in office a year and a half. That means probably 6 and a half more years or 2 and a half at the least. How long do you think Ginsberg can hold out?

Probably longer than Trump. Pence would appoint if he could such a justice as you want, but the Senate would try the line. They all want to be re-elected.

 

[bodecea]

8. Judges, we are taught, are saints, and have only the best interests of America at heart.

This is the sort of propaganda that produces lock-step Liberals.


They are simply well connected men, mere mortals, with no better ability to recognize rectitude than anyone else.

The give-away is how often they bow to party and bias.

If they do not pay homage to the Constitution, they should be swept from the bench.




“Today, however, the judiciary seems to have surpassed Congress and rival even the executive branch as it has, particularly in the last century, assumed powers unto itself that the Constitution's framers never intended.

Given his record and views of the Constitution, President Trump's latest Supreme Court nominee, Brett Kavanaugh, is in line with Hamilton's thinking,…""[A] limited Constitution ... can be preserved in practice no other way than through the medium of courts of justice, whose duty it must be to declare all acts contrary to the manifest tenor of the Constitution void."



For some Democrats, it's all about abortion and same-sex marriage, neither of which are mentioned in the Constitution and both of which have been created as rights by a majority of justices whose fealty appears to have been to public opinion and their own biases, rather than to the nation's founding document.” Cal Thomas - The Brett Kavanaugh Nomination

Cal Thomas.....

He's right on.

He is? So you agree with him on this?

Mr. Obama won the election with just 52 percent of the popular vote and a margin of 7 percent over Sen. John McCain. This should not be seen as a mandate for him and his administration.