The Only True Supreme Court

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    ....is one in which Justices judge every case that comes before them against the law of the land, the only edict that the American people have agreed to be guided by....
    ....the United States Constitution.



    1. Any who use the term 'interpret' when referring to the job of a Supreme Court Justice are wrong.
    Interpret
    Explain the meaning of (information or actions)

    ‘the evidence is difficult to interpret’
    interpret | Definition of interpret in English by Oxford Dictionaries

    Bulletin:
    The United States Constitution is written in English!!!!!
    It is to be applied.....not interpreted.


    Apply
    Be applicable or relevant.

    ‘prices do not apply to public holiday periods’
    apply | Definition of apply in English by Oxford Dictionaries


    One promises to obey the written text, uses same in deciding whether questions that come before the court are
    a. consistent with the language, the text, of the Constitution.
    or
    b. not covered by the Constitution, and allow lower courts to pass judgment.


    2. The Founders and classical liberals....what are called conservatives today, recognize the America that was memorialized in our founding documents, an American based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


    3. "[A] limited Constitution ... can be preserved in practice no other way than through the medium of courts of justice, whose duty it must be to declare all acts contrary to the manifest tenor of the Constitution void. Without this, all the reservations of particular rights or privileges would amount to nothing. ... To deny this would be to affirm ... that men acting by virtue of powers may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid..."
    Alexander Hamilton


    4. Lino Graglia speaks of the powers that judges and Justices have assumed:

    “If the framers—the authors and, most important, the ratifiers of the Constitution—had decided to grant the power, one would expect to see it, like the analogous presidential veto power, not only plainly stated but limited by giving conditions for its exercise and by making clear provision for Congress to have the last word. It appears that the framers mistakenly envisioned the power as involving merely the application of clear rules to disallow clear violations, something that in fact rarely occurs.”
    Professor Lino Graglia, https://www.hoover.org/sites/default/files/uploads/documents/0817946020_1.pdf


    5. This is the corruption that has seeped into our judiciary:
    "We are under a Constitution, but the Constitution is what the judges say it is."
    Charles Evans Hughes.



    One can only hope that Judge Kavanaugh is the textualist he is reputed to be.
     
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    Textualist? Didnt he support the SC in deeming obamacare a tax even though it wasnt presented as such? Basically tax legislation from the bench?
    Is the part about the House writing tax legislation in the constitution written in latin? :dunno:
    He also faps to the NSA and unconstitutional spying.
    So much for this thread :rolleyes:
     
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    The Federalist Society and other 'dark money' judicial organizations are governed by the elite for the elite. A conservative SCOTUS is simply the legislative branch of the oligarchs, the corporatist, the bigoted, read its history if you doubt. The white working class plays along and then wonders why they have lost all power. Sad.

    Injustices: The Supreme Court's History of Comforting the Comfortable and Afflicting the Afflicted by Ian Millhiser

    "Few American institutions have inflicted greater suffering on ordinary people than the Supreme Court of the United States. Since its inception, the justices of the Supreme Court have shaped a nation where children toiled in coal mines, where Americans could be forced into camps because of their race, and where a woman could be sterilized against her will by state law."

    Readings:

    'Invisible Hands: The Businessmen's Crusade Against the New Deal' Kim Phillips-Fein
    "Dark Money: The Hidden History of the Billionaires Behind the Rise of the Radical Right" Jane Mayer
    'White Trash: The 400-Year Untold History of Class in America' by Nancy Isenberg

    Evil:

    Trump's immigration action is an act of evil, to separate a child because their parent wants a better life for them is un-American, un-Christian, and simply shows the lack of heart and compassion of America today. And the right wing's apologies for this evil demonstrates a lack of reason that should surprise everyone. "The trouble with Eichmann was precisely that so many were like him, and that the many were neither perverted nor sadistic, that they were, and still are, terribly and terrifyingly normal. From the viewpoint of our legal institutions and of our moral standards of judgment, this normality was much more terrifying than all the atrocities put together." Hannah Arendt
     
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    A very conservative SCOTUS will be the tool of the plutocracy.
     
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    Trump has just proven that he is not who we'd like him to be.

    While he has initiated many things beneficial to Americans, he remains, like ALL other Presidents, faithful to the Deep State.
    He probably has no choice. John F. Kennedy vowed to dissolve the Deep State.

    There are teasings of a wall, but it's only to keep his base hopeful. There will be no wall.

    Kavanaugh is not a friend of right wing values. His view on government is EXACTLY in line with the far Leftists on this forum.
    His views on the 2nd seem acceptable to Constitutionalists, but I say once on the bench he will completely betray that sooner or later.
    It's no wonder to me that radical leftists are fine with this choice and call it a good and fair one.
    Wait and see.
     
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    I see that the less astute need a primer on what they actually stand for....

    The view of the Founders, classical liberals, and conservatives
    a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


    The aim of Liberals, communists, fascists, Socialists, Nazis and Progressives
    b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.



    " Franklin Roosevelt had pictured a place where citizens were joined in a collective enterprise ... Reagan pictured a more individualistic America where everyone would flourish once freed from the shackles of the state, and so the watchwords became self-reliance and small government."
    The Liberal Crackup




    Find the conservative in this pic:

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    "... leftists are fine with this choice ...."


    Are you serious???
     
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    6. The problem is that the limits to the power of the Supreme Court is not specified, and this allowed the power-grab that that has resulted in today’s judicial tyranny.

    “It appears that the framers mistakenly envisioned the power as involving merely the application of clear rules to disallow clear violations, something that in fact rarely occurs.” https://www.hoover.org/sites/default/files/uploads/documents/0817946020_1.pdf





    It seems the Founders never envisioned the sort of disreputable individuals who have gained control of the major political party, and use the judiciary as a substitute for the legislature.




    7. Coulter:
    If liberals could trust the voters, they wouldn’t need the Court to invent ludicrous ‘constitutional rights’ for them in the first place.

    The only limit on liberal insanity in this country is how many issues liberals can get before a court…A lot is at stake for liberals with the court.

    If they lose a liberal vote, they will be forced to fight political battles through a messy little system know as ‘democracy.’


    When conservative judges strike down laws, it’s because of what’s in the Constitution. When liberal judges strike down laws (or impose new laws, such as tax increases), it’s because of what’s in the New York Times.
     
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    I dont think they are but republican hacks like political chick are!
     
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    C'mon PC. You can do better than this.
    Look at Kavanaughs RECORD. See post #2 this thread.

    Judge Andrew Napolitano: Why I am so deeply disappointed by Trump's Supreme Court pick

    Look through the thread on Trumps pick. The leftist Radicals here were like "Trump made a good choice"
    Joy Behar and other crazed leftists are suffering from TDS. Whatever he does they will be hysterical.

    In what way do you think Kavanaugh was a good pick for the Constitution? I'm surprised at you.
     

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