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....is one in which Justices judge every case that comes before them against the law of the land, the only edict that the American people have agreed to be guided by....
....the United States Constitution.



1. Any who use the term 'interpret' when referring to the job of a Supreme Court Justice are wrong.
Interpret
Explain the meaning of (information or actions)

‘the evidence is difficult to interpret’
interpret | Definition of interpret in English by Oxford Dictionaries

Bulletin:
The United States Constitution is written in English!!!!!
It is to be applied.....not interpreted.


Apply
Be applicable or relevant.

‘prices do not apply to public holiday periods’
apply | Definition of apply in English by Oxford Dictionaries


One promises to obey the written text, uses same in deciding whether questions that come before the court are
a. consistent with the language, the text, of the Constitution.
or
b. not covered by the Constitution, and allow lower courts to pass judgment.


2. The Founders and classical liberals....what are called conservatives today, recognize the America that was memorialized in our founding documents, an American based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


3. "[A] limited Constitution ... can be preserved in practice no other way than through the medium of courts of justice, whose duty it must be to declare all acts contrary to the manifest tenor of the Constitution void. Without this, all the reservations of particular rights or privileges would amount to nothing. ... To deny this would be to affirm ... that men acting by virtue of powers may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid..."
Alexander Hamilton


4. Lino Graglia speaks of the powers that judges and Justices have assumed:

“If the framers—the authors and, most important, the ratifiers of the Constitution—had decided to grant the power, one would expect to see it, like the analogous presidential veto power, not only plainly stated but limited by giving conditions for its exercise and by making clear provision for Congress to have the last word. It appears that the framers mistakenly envisioned the power as involving merely the application of clear rules to disallow clear violations, something that in fact rarely occurs.”
Professor Lino Graglia, https://www.hoover.org/sites/default/files/uploads/documents/0817946020_1.pdf


5. This is the corruption that has seeped into our judiciary:
"We are under a Constitution, but the Constitution is what the judges say it is."
Charles Evans Hughes.



One can only hope that Judge Kavanaugh is the textualist he is reputed to be.
 
Textualist? Didnt he support the SC in deeming obamacare a tax even though it wasnt presented as such? Basically tax legislation from the bench?
Is the part about the House writing tax legislation in the constitution written in latin? :dunno:
He also faps to the NSA and unconstitutional spying.
So much for this thread :rolleyes:
 
The Federalist Society and other 'dark money' judicial organizations are governed by the elite for the elite. A conservative SCOTUS is simply the legislative branch of the oligarchs, the corporatist, the bigoted, read its history if you doubt. The white working class plays along and then wonders why they have lost all power. Sad.

Injustices: The Supreme Court's History of Comforting the Comfortable and Afflicting the Afflicted by Ian Millhiser

"Few American institutions have inflicted greater suffering on ordinary people than the Supreme Court of the United States. Since its inception, the justices of the Supreme Court have shaped a nation where children toiled in coal mines, where Americans could be forced into camps because of their race, and where a woman could be sterilized against her will by state law."

Readings:

'Invisible Hands: The Businessmen's Crusade Against the New Deal' Kim Phillips-Fein
"Dark Money: The Hidden History of the Billionaires Behind the Rise of the Radical Right" Jane Mayer
'White Trash: The 400-Year Untold History of Class in America' by Nancy Isenberg

Evil:

Trump's immigration action is an act of evil, to separate a child because their parent wants a better life for them is un-American, un-Christian, and simply shows the lack of heart and compassion of America today. And the right wing's apologies for this evil demonstrates a lack of reason that should surprise everyone. "The trouble with Eichmann was precisely that so many were like him, and that the many were neither perverted nor sadistic, that they were, and still are, terribly and terrifyingly normal. From the viewpoint of our legal institutions and of our moral standards of judgment, this normality was much more terrifying than all the atrocities put together." Hannah Arendt
 
Trump has just proven that he is not who we'd like him to be.

While he has initiated many things beneficial to Americans, he remains, like ALL other Presidents, faithful to the Deep State.
He probably has no choice. John F. Kennedy vowed to dissolve the Deep State.

There are teasings of a wall, but it's only to keep his base hopeful. There will be no wall.

Kavanaugh is not a friend of right wing values. His view on government is EXACTLY in line with the far Leftists on this forum.
His views on the 2nd seem acceptable to Constitutionalists, but I say once on the bench he will completely betray that sooner or later.
It's no wonder to me that radical leftists are fine with this choice and call it a good and fair one.
Wait and see.
 
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I see that the less astute need a primer on what they actually stand for....

The view of the Founders, classical liberals, and conservatives
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


The aim of Liberals, communists, fascists, Socialists, Nazis and Progressives
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.



" Franklin Roosevelt had pictured a place where citizens were joined in a collective enterprise ... Reagan pictured a more individualistic America where everyone would flourish once freed from the shackles of the state, and so the watchwords became self-reliance and small government."
The Liberal Crackup




Find the conservative in this pic:

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Trump has just proven that he is not who we'd like him to be.

While he has initiated many things beneficial to Americans, he remains, like ALL other Presidents, faithful to the Deep State.
He probably has no choice. John F. Kennedy vowed to dissolve the Deep State.

Kavanaugh is not a friend of right wing values. His view on government is EXACTLY in line with the far Leftists on this forum.
His views on the 2nd seem acceptable to Constitutionalists, but I say once on the bench he will completely betray that sooner or later.
It's no wonder to me that radical leftists are fine with this choice and call it a good and fair one.
Wait and see.



"... leftists are fine with this choice ...."


Are you serious???
 
6. The problem is that the limits to the power of the Supreme Court is not specified, and this allowed the power-grab that that has resulted in today’s judicial tyranny.

“It appears that the framers mistakenly envisioned the power as involving merely the application of clear rules to disallow clear violations, something that in fact rarely occurs.” https://www.hoover.org/sites/default/files/uploads/documents/0817946020_1.pdf





It seems the Founders never envisioned the sort of disreputable individuals who have gained control of the major political party, and use the judiciary as a substitute for the legislature.




7. Coulter:
If liberals could trust the voters, they wouldn’t need the Court to invent ludicrous ‘constitutional rights’ for them in the first place.

The only limit on liberal insanity in this country is how many issues liberals can get before a court…A lot is at stake for liberals with the court.

If they lose a liberal vote, they will be forced to fight political battles through a messy little system know as ‘democracy.’


When conservative judges strike down laws, it’s because of what’s in the Constitution. When liberal judges strike down laws (or impose new laws, such as tax increases), it’s because of what’s in the New York Times.
 
Trump has just proven that he is not who we'd like him to be.

While he has initiated many things beneficial to Americans, he remains, like ALL other Presidents, faithful to the Deep State.
He probably has no choice. John F. Kennedy vowed to dissolve the Deep State.

Kavanaugh is not a friend of right wing values. His view on government is EXACTLY in line with the far Leftists on this forum.
His views on the 2nd seem acceptable to Constitutionalists, but I say once on the bench he will completely betray that sooner or later.
It's no wonder to me that radical leftists are fine with this choice and call it a good and fair one.
Wait and see.
I dont think they are but republican hacks like political chick are!
 
"... leftists are fine with this choice ...."
Are you serious???

C'mon PC. You can do better than this.
Look at Kavanaughs RECORD. See post #2 this thread.

Judge Andrew Napolitano: Why I am so deeply disappointed by Trump's Supreme Court pick

Look through the thread on Trumps pick. The leftist Radicals here were like "Trump made a good choice"
Joy Behar and other crazed leftists are suffering from TDS. Whatever he does they will be hysterical.

In what way do you think Kavanaugh was a good pick for the Constitution? I'm surprised at you.
 
"... leftists are fine with this choice ...."
Are you serious???

C'mon PC. You can do better than this.
Look at Kavanaughs RECORD. See post #2 this thread.

Judge Andrew Napolitano: Why I am so deeply disappointed by Trump's Supreme Court pick

Look through the thread on Trumps pick. The leftist Radicals here were like "Trump made a good choice"
Joy Behar and other crazed leftists are suffering from TDS. Whatever he does they will be hysterical.

In what way do you think Kavanaugh was a good pick for the Constitution? I'm surprised at you.


Please show where the Left is fine with this pick, as you claimed.
 
PC, We The People have already acquiesced to the point that the Constitution is now reduced to symbolism only.

Obamacare - The mandate will EASILY be reinstated after Trump (what's been done is a dog & pony show)
Patriot Act - recently renewed
Civil Forfeiture - totally Unconstitutional but who cares
Warrant less searches - totally Unconstitutional - but who cares
NSA spying on Americans who merely voice dissent routinely - yet people are fine with it
Where's the "Wall"? - There will be NO WALL. The crumbs being thrown are a dog & pony show to keep you quiet and hopeful

The Constitution is already gone. We are at the whim of those in power.
 
Please show where the Left is fine with this pick, as you claimed.

For some examples at this forum, visit this thread. Many there for you.
Trump Picks Kavanaugh
Here's Just ONE....
Kavanaugh, surprisingly, is a fair pick and will fill the swing vote position of Kennedy.

The Radical Leftists you see protesting Kavanaugh are just that. Kavanaugh is not radical enough for them. But still not a friend of the Constitution.

Akhil Reed Amar is a prominent professor at Yale Law School, and a noted liberal. He wrote a piece for the NYT yesterday in praise of Brett Kavanaugh’s qualifications for the US Supreme Court. Excerpt:

The nomination of Judge Brett Kavanaugh to be the next Supreme Court justice is President Trump’s finest hour, his classiest move. Last week the president promised to select “someone with impeccable credentials, great intellect, unbiased judgment, and deep reverence for the laws and Constitution of the United States.” In picking Judge Kavanaugh, he has done just that.

In 2016, I strongly supported Hillary Clinton for president as well as President Barack Obama’s nominee for the Supreme Court, Judge Merrick Garland. But today, with the exception of the current justices and Judge Garland, it is hard to name anyone with judicial credentials as strong as those of Judge Kavanaugh.



Can you show why you think he's even a potentially good pick?

Have you looked at his voting records and opinions on critical issues?
 
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A very conservative SCOTUS will be the tool of the plutocracy.
Why would a very (fill in the partisan blank) SCJOTUS apply the law any differently than their partisanly disparate fellow jurists? If the answer is that they would then they are NOT adhering to the strict mandates of their job description (& and yes, we do have some sitting on the SCOTUS at this time)!!!
 
Please show where the Left is fine with this pick, as you claimed.

For some examples at this forum, visit this thread. Many there for you.
Trump Picks Kavanaugh
Here's Just ONE....
Kavanaugh, surprisingly, is a fair pick and will fill the swing vote position of Kennedy.

The Radical Leftists you see protesting Kavanaugh are just that. Kavanaugh is not radical enough for them. But still not a friend of the Constitution.

Akhil Reed Amar is a prominent professor at Yale Law School, and a noted liberal. He wrote a piece for the NYT yesterday in praise of Brett Kavanaugh’s qualifications for the US Supreme Court. Excerpt:

The nomination of Judge Brett Kavanaugh to be the next Supreme Court justice is President Trump’s finest hour, his classiest move. Last week the president promised to select “someone with impeccable credentials, great intellect, unbiased judgment, and deep reverence for the laws and Constitution of the United States.” In picking Judge Kavanaugh, he has done just that.

In 2016, I strongly supported Hillary Clinton for president as well as President Barack Obama’s nominee for the Supreme Court, Judge Merrick Garland. But today, with the exception of the current justices and Judge Garland, it is hard to name anyone with judicial credentials as strong as those of Judge Kavanaugh.



Can you show why you think he's even a potentially good pick?

Have you looked at his voting records and opinions on critical issues?



"Can you show why you think he's even a potentially good pick?"


This was the last line in the OP
"One can only hope that Judge Kavanaugh is the textualist he is reputed to be."
 
PC, We The People have already acquiesced to the point that the Constitution is now reduced to symbolism only.

Obamacare - The mandate will EASILY be reinstated after Trump (what's been done is a dog & pony show)
Patriot Act - recently renewed
Civil Forfeiture - totally Unconstitutional but who cares
Warrant less searches - totally Unconstitutional - but who cares
NSA spying on Americans who merely voice dissent routinely - yet people are fine with it
Where's the "Wall"? - There will be NO WALL. The crumbs being thrown are a dog & pony show to keep you quiet and hopeful

The Constitution is already gone. We are at the whim of those in power.



"The Constitution is already gone."


As Mark Twain is reputed to have said:
“The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated.”

It applies as well to America and the Constitution.

Trump has turned out to be a far better President than many....certainly more than his predecessor ....and far more conservative than most predicted


I'm certain you have seen this, in the Declaration of Independence...

There are four references to ‘Divine’ in D of I…

1)in first paragraph ‘Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God,’
2) next paragraph ‘endowed by their Creator,”
3) Supreme Judge of the world, and
4) ‘divine’ Providence, last paragraph.

It's not over....have faith.
 
8. Judges, we are taught, are saints, and have only the best interests of America at heart.

This is the sort of propaganda that produces lock-step Liberals.


They are simply well connected men, mere mortals, with no better ability to recognize rectitude than anyone else.

The give-away is how often they bow to party and bias.

If they do not pay homage to the Constitution, they should be swept from the bench.




“Today, however, the judiciary seems to have surpassed Congress and rival even the executive branch as it has, particularly in the last century, assumed powers unto itself that the Constitution's framers never intended.

Given his record and views of the Constitution, President Trump's latest Supreme Court nominee, Brett Kavanaugh, is in line with Hamilton's thinking,…""[A] limited Constitution ... can be preserved in practice no other way than through the medium of courts of justice, whose duty it must be to declare all acts contrary to the manifest tenor of the Constitution void."



For some Democrats, it's all about abortion and same-sex marriage, neither of which are mentioned in the Constitution and both of which have been created as rights by a majority of justices whose fealty appears to have been to public opinion and their own biases, rather than to the nation's founding document.” Cal Thomas - The Brett Kavanaugh Nomination
 
8. Judges, we are taught, are saints, and have only the best interests of America at heart.

This is the sort of propaganda that produces lock-step Liberals.


They are simply well connected men, mere mortals, with no better ability to recognize rectitude than anyone else.

The give-away is how often they bow to party and bias.

If they do not pay homage to the Constitution, they should be swept from the bench.




“Today, however, the judiciary seems to have surpassed Congress and rival even the executive branch as it has, particularly in the last century, assumed powers unto itself that the Constitution's framers never intended.

Given his record and views of the Constitution, President Trump's latest Supreme Court nominee, Brett Kavanaugh, is in line with Hamilton's thinking,…""[A] limited Constitution ... can be preserved in practice no other way than through the medium of courts of justice, whose duty it must be to declare all acts contrary to the manifest tenor of the Constitution void."



For some Democrats, it's all about abortion and same-sex marriage, neither of which are mentioned in the Constitution and both of which have been created as rights by a majority of justices whose fealty appears to have been to public opinion and their own biases, rather than to the nation's founding document.” Cal Thomas - The Brett Kavanaugh Nomination
Seems to TNHarley, it's about Obamacare's Tax and the NSA. But I can see why you wouldn't want to address them head on, Propaganda mistress.
 
For the far evangelical right, abortion and same-sex marriage dominate their concerns with SCOTUS picks.
 

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