The Official Hollow Moon vs. AGW Thread and Poll

Which has more scientific backing?

  • Hollow Moon

    Votes: 3 37.5%
  • AGW

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • FFS! Get a life willya?

    Votes: 5 62.5%

  • Total voters
    8

CrusaderFrank

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You heard it before, the Warmers, that is the Fundamentalist Cult that believes a wisp of CO2 is causing Climate Global Change Warming, cannot defend their theory with any lab evidence whatsoever so when challenged, they resort to taunts and insults.

A favorite taunt is to deride my prior statement that the Moon may actually be an artificial satellite. Wait...who built it? I don't know, I have no idea. The Universe is 14 billion years old and the shoe-wearing monkeys on planet Earth have been around for, let's be generous 250,000 years. Is it possible that some civilization with a million, or 100 million year head start would have the capability? Sure.

Here's my case for the Moon being Hollow -- and possibly artifical.

First, it rings like a bell whenever anything hits it.

"More specifically when the Apollo crew in November 20, 1969 released the lunar module, after returning to the orbiter, the module impact with the Moon caused their seismic equipment to register a continuous reverberation like a bell for more than an hour. The same effect occurred with Apollo 13's third stage which caused the Moon to ring for over three hours."

Our Enigmatic Moon

Second, it's way too big to be there in the first place! There is still no coherent, natural theory of how the Moon came to be in the orbit it's in around Earth. Consider that. Don't believe me, look it up for yourself.

"Looking at all the anomaly's and unanswered questions regarding the Moon, the best explanation for the Moon is observational error, it doesn't exist" -- Irwin Shaprio, Harvard Smithsonian Centre for astrophysics

Third, the Moon, as large as it is, serves a very specific purpose: it stabilized Earth orbit to alive Intelligent life and people who believe in AGW to flourish. Without the Moon, the Earth Axis would fluctuate this time really causing "wider and wider swing"in climate; 150mph winds, baking heat along the every changing equator and deep freeze at the every changing polar ice caps

"In 1993, French mathematicians Jacques Laskar and Philippe Robutel showed that Earth’s large moon has a stabilizing effect on our planet’s climate. Without the moon, gravitational perturbations from other planets, notably nearby Venus and massive Jupiter, would greatly disturb Earth’s axial tilt, with vast consequences for the planet’s climate. The steadily orbiting moon’s gravitational tug counteracts these disturbances, and Earth’s axial tilt never veers too far from the current value of 23.5°, where 0° would mean the axis was perpendicular to the plane of Earth’s orbit around the sun."

Who Needs a Moon? | Science/AAAS | News

Again, don't believe me, look it up for yourself: the Moon stabilizes our orbit, that's why it was put there.

Here's the scientific case for AGW:

lab_mouse.jpg


That's right, there's not one single experiment that shows how a 200, 400, 800ppm increase in CO2 raises temperature or does any of the things it's alleged.

Don't believe me, look it up for yourself.

See if you can find even one lab experiment that validates the AGW Hypothesis
 
Dyson sphere

A Type I Dyson sphere, on the other hand, appears to be such an inevitable and achievable piece of astroengineering that we might expect not only the human race eventually to build one but for other civilizations, more advanced than our own, already to have theirs in place. Dyson pointed this out and suggested how such structures would appear over interstellar distances. A Dyson sphere would absorb most of the visible and shorter wavelength radiation from its host star and re-emit a portion of it in the form of infrared radiation.3 Its infrared output, in fact, would be similar to that of a protostar. The artificial nature of the object might be revealed in other ways. Said Dyson: "One would look in particular for irregular light variations due to starlight shining through chinks in the curtain, and for stray electromagnetic fields and radio noise produced by large-scale electrical operations ..." Several searches have been carried out.4, 5, 6, 7, 8

A third type of Dyson sphere – a Dyson "bubble" – has been proposed in which the shell would be complete, very thin, and non-rotating. It would consist of statites, or stationary solar sails, which reflected light onto collectors for use in external habitats. The entire mass of the structure would be approximately that of the Moon or a large asteroid. ...

I wonder what would be inside a hollow moon.
 
The lesson of this thread?

Profoundly stupid people shouldn't attempt satire, because they just end up looking butthurt.

Wow us with your Theory of why the Moon is in orbit around the Earth. How did it get there?
 
The lesson of this thread?

Profoundly stupid people shouldn't attempt satire, because they just end up looking butthurt.

Wow us with your Theory of why the Moon is in orbit around the Earth. How did it get there?
Jesus put it there.

Well, that's actually far more likely and viable than any current theory. Notice you or Mamooth could have ended the debate right there by posting a Theory, one that holds water given our current understanding of celestial mechanics, but passed.

Why do you suppose that is?
 
The lesson of this thread?

Profoundly stupid people shouldn't attempt satire, because they just end up looking butthurt.

Wow us with your Theory of why the Moon is in orbit around the Earth. How did it get there?
Jesus put it there.

Well, that's actually far more likely and viable than any current theory. Notice you or Mamooth could have ended the debate right there by posting a Theory, one that holds water given our current understanding of celestial mechanics, but passed.

Why do you suppose that is?
You are clearly a satanist. Jesus is why things happen you heathen! Repent! :mad:
 
You heard it before, the Warmers, that is the Fundamentalist Cult that believes a wisp of CO2 is causing Climate Global Change Warming, cannot defend their theory with any lab evidence whatsoever so when challenged, they resort to taunts and insults.

A favorite taunt is to deride my prior statement that the Moon may actually be an artificial satellite. Wait...who built it? I don't know, I have no idea. The Universe is 14 billion years old and the shoe-wearing monkeys on planet Earth have been around for, let's be generous 250,000 years. Is it possible that some civilization with a million, or 100 million year head start would have the capability? Sure.

Here's my case for the Moon being Hollow -- and possibly artifical.

First, it rings like a bell whenever anything hits it.

"More specifically when the Apollo crew in November 20, 1969 released the lunar module, after returning to the orbiter, the module impact with the Moon caused their seismic equipment to register a continuous reverberation like a bell for more than an hour. The same effect occurred with Apollo 13's third stage which caused the Moon to ring for over three hours."

Our Enigmatic Moon

Second, it's way too big to be there in the first place! There is still no coherent, natural theory of how the Moon came to be in the orbit it's in around Earth. Consider that. Don't believe me, look it up for yourself.

"Looking at all the anomaly's and unanswered questions regarding the Moon, the best explanation for the Moon is observational error, it doesn't exist" -- Irwin Shaprio, Harvard Smithsonian Centre for astrophysics

Third, the Moon, as large as it is, serves a very specific purpose: it stabilized Earth orbit to alive Intelligent life and people who believe in AGW to flourish. Without the Moon, the Earth Axis would fluctuate this time really causing "wider and wider swing"in climate; 150mph winds, baking heat along the every changing equator and deep freeze at the every changing polar ice caps

"In 1993, French mathematicians Jacques Laskar and Philippe Robutel showed that Earth’s large moon has a stabilizing effect on our planet’s climate. Without the moon, gravitational perturbations from other planets, notably nearby Venus and massive Jupiter, would greatly disturb Earth’s axial tilt, with vast consequences for the planet’s climate. The steadily orbiting moon’s gravitational tug counteracts these disturbances, and Earth’s axial tilt never veers too far from the current value of 23.5°, where 0° would mean the axis was perpendicular to the plane of Earth’s orbit around the sun."

Who Needs a Moon? | Science/AAAS | News

Again, don't believe me, look it up for yourself: the Moon stabilizes our orbit, that's why it was put there.

Here's the scientific case for AGW:

lab_mouse.jpg


That's right, there's not one single experiment that shows how a 200, 400, 800ppm increase in CO2 raises temperature or does any of the things it's alleged.

Don't believe me, look it up for yourself.

See if you can find even one lab experiment that validates the AGW Hypothesis

Have heard speculations other moons might be hollow, and certainly it's possible, but hadn't heard our's might be before. Is a planet made of diamond afterall so why not a hollow moon? :)

Super-Earth Planet Likely Made of Diamond

"The most famous gems on Earth have new competition in the form of a planet made largely of diamond, astronomers say.

The alien planet, a so-called "super-Earth," is called 55 Cancri e and was discovered in 2004 around a nearby star in our Milky Way galaxy. After estimating the planet's mass and radius, and studying its host star's composition, scientists now say the rocky world is composed mainly of carbon (in the form of diamond and graphite), as well as iron, silicon carbide, and potentially silicates."
 
Consider:
  • The Moon is the exact same apparent size as the Sun and account for total eclipses.
  • The Moon has an almost perfect circular orbit, Earth has an elliptical orbit
  • The Moon always show the same face to us, it's revolution on its axis always present the same side to us
  • The Moon is older than the Earth
  • The Heavier metals are on the surface of the Moon, the white shine of the Moon is due to a high concentration
  • The Marias, the seas (that only face earth side) are apparently due to an outpouring lava, yet the Moon was never hot enough nor ever had any volcanic activity to create natural lava seas.
  • The Marias contain 80% of the Mascons, that is weird anomalous areas of concentrated mass that perturbed the orbits of early probes sent to orbit about the Moon. The Mascon have been mapped and they are all located at the center of large craters
  • The Moon and the Sun have an unusual synchronicity in that they share the same northern-most and southern-most spot to rise and set throughout the year and they do at the same time. The Sun hit it's northernmost point when the Moon is at it's southernmost point
  • It has no atmosphere, yet in 1971 a 100 mile cloud of water vapor was reported moving across the Moon surface
  • Lunar rocks contain brass, mica, amphibole, near-pure titanium, Uranium 236 and Neptunium 237 — elements not previously found in nature, and rust proof iron.
  • The Moon is apparently hollow are rings like a bells when hit by a heavy object.
There is still no Theory consistent with our understanding of celestial mechanics that explain how the Moon got into orbit in the first place. "Looking at all the anomaly's and unanswered questions regarding the Moon, the best explanation for the Moon is observational error, it doesn't exist" -- Irwin Shaprio, Harvard Smithsonian Centre for astrophysics
 
Consider:
  • The Moon is the exact same apparent size as the Sun and account for total eclipses.
  • The Moon has an almost perfect circular orbit, Earth has an elliptical orbit
  • The Moon always show the same face to us, it's revolution on its axis always present the same side to us
  • The Moon is older than the Earth
  • The Heavier metals are on the surface of the Moon, the white shine of the Moon is due to a high concentration
  • The Marias, the seas (that only face earth side) are apparently due to an outpouring lava, yet the Moon was never hot enough nor ever had any volcanic activity to create natural lava seas.
  • The Marias contain 80% of the Mascons, that is weird anomalous areas of concentrated mass that perturbed the orbits of early probes sent to orbit about the Moon. The Mascon have been mapped and they are all located at the center of large craters
  • The Moon and the Sun have an unusual synchronicity in that they share the same northern-most and southern-most spot to rise and set throughout the year and they do at the same time. The Sun hit it's northernmost point when the Moon is at it's southernmost point
  • It has no atmosphere, yet in 1971 a 100 mile cloud of water vapor was reported moving across the Moon surface
  • Lunar rocks contain brass, mica, amphibole, near-pure titanium, Uranium 236 and Neptunium 237 — elements not previously found in nature, and rust proof iron.
  • The Moon is apparently hollow are rings like a bells when hit by a heavy object.
There is still no Theory consistent with our understanding of celestial mechanics that explain how the Moon got into orbit in the first place. "Looking at all the anomaly's and unanswered questions regarding the Moon, the best explanation for the Moon is observational error, it doesn't exist" -- Irwin Shaprio, Harvard Smithsonian Centre for astrophysics

Reason for at least the first point is the Moon is a bit closer to us than the Sun. :)

Third point, the Moon's same side isn't always facing us. In fact our rotational velocities are almost identical, but over enough time, you'd see a different view. To us, with our short lifespans, we'll always see the same view, over a longer span though you'd see it change.

The Moon has an atmosphere. Isn't much to speak of but update your notes. :)
Is There an Atmosphere on the Moon NASA
 
OP, you present a bunch of specious nonsense that you cut and paste from some tinfoil hat website, but anyone with a modest understanding of the science will recognize the mumblings of a fools.

The Moon is the exact same apparent size as the Sun and account for total eclipses.

So what. Correlation does not imply causation. That is the one thing that all conspiracy theorists can't seem to grasp. The moon happens to be 400 times smaller than the sun; which coincidentally happens to be 400 times the distance.

The Moon has an almost perfect circular orbit, Earth has an elliptical orbit

Nope. You're just wrong. The earth has an eccentricity of 0.018; whereas the moon's is 0.056. So, it is actually the earth that has a more circular path.

The Moon always show the same face to us, it's revolution on its axis always present the same side to us

The solar system is a very old place, and bodies that orbit one another tend to get tidally locked over time. All bodies that orbit will eventually become tidal locked. And, the earth/moon system isn't the only body in the solar system to be tidally locked, or nearly so. Hell, it is a fairly commonly inferred principle in the galaxy, and seen in other star systems, but I'll leave it to you to figure that

The Moon is older than the Earth

Nope. Again, you are just wrong. The earth predates the moon.

The Heavier metals are on the surface of the Moon, the white shine of the Moon is due to a high concentration

Nope, wrong again. The rocks on the surface of the moon are basalts which are the same as the rocks on earth's sea floor, or places the Columbia River Plateau, or Deccan Plateau, or the Central Siberian Plateau, or... get the ideal? There are numerous places on earth with the same geology.

The Marias, the seas (that only face earth side) are apparently due to an outpouring lava, yet the Moon was never hot enough nor ever had any volcanic activity to create natural lava seas.

Wrong again! Damn, this is becoming tedious. The mares are were created from large impacts during the Late Heavy Bombardment period of the solar system. The earth went through the same thing, but tectonics has recycled the surface of earth many times since then.


The Marias contain 80% of the Mascons, that is weird anomalous areas of concentrated mass that perturbed the orbits of early probes sent to orbit about the Moon. The Mascon have been mapped and they are all located at the center of large craters

More nonsense. It doesn't even make sense! There is nothing weird about gravitational differences within different regions of a area. Betcha didn't know, but we have those, here, on earth, too.

The Moon and the Sun have an unusual synchronicity in that they share the same northern-most and southern-most spot to rise and set throughout the year and they do at the same time. The Sun hit it's northernmost point when the Moon is at it's southernmost point

You're just making this up, now. Actually, I think you are just confused. It appears that you are conflating a couple of different concepts, but I'll be damned if I'm going to explain it to you.

It has no atmosphere, yet in 1971 a 100 mile cloud of water vapor was reported moving across the Moon surface

lol... a few ions doesn't make a "100 mile cloud", but we have know of lunar outgassing for at least a couple of hundred years. There is actually name for it, find it if you can.

Lunar rocks contain brass, mica, amphibole, near-pure titanium, Uranium 236 and Neptunium 237 — elements not previously found in nature, and rust proof iron.

Your embarrassing yourself... there is no brass, which kind of mica? We find quite a few varieties here on terra firma, all titanium is pure titanium by definition; it is an element- that is basic grammar school stuff!

Why do I waste my time??? 236U is formed by the decay of 238U which has a half-life of about 4.5 billion years, and also by interaction with relativistic particles... you know, things that make space flight so dangerous for astronauts.

The Moon is apparently hollow are rings like a bells when hit by a heavy object.

No. No it doesn't. What you wrote betrays a fundamental ignorance of basic science. I'll let you figure out why that is incorrect.

There is still no Theory consistent with our understanding of celestial mechanics that explain how the Moon got into orbit in the first place. "Looking at all the anomaly's and unanswered questions regarding the Moon, the best explanation for the Moon is observational error, it doesn't exist" -- Irwin Shaprio, Harvard Smithsonian Centre for astrophysics

Yes, there is a perfectly good theory on how the moon came into being, the rest of the crap that you wrote is just a bunch of ignorant nonsense. What you presented was one large argument from incredulity. You know, it is amazing that over 2500 years ago smart men debated the fallacy of your argument, and it is still being used today.

"At what point did you reject the hypothesis that you're too dumb to understand how good the idea is?" —Dilbert, cartoon character

EDIT: some words and tags
 
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OP, you present a bunch of specious nonsense that you cut and paste from some tinfoil hat website, but anyone with a modest understanding of the science will recognize the mumblings of a fools.

The Moon is the exact same apparent size as the Sun and account for total eclipses.

So what. Correlation does not imply causation. That is the one thing that all conspiracy theorists can't seem to grasp. The moon happens to be 400 times smaller than the sun; which coincidentally happens to be 400 times the distance.

The Moon has an almost perfect circular orbit, Earth has an elliptical orbit

Nope. You're just wrong. The earth has an eccentricity of 0.018; whereas the moon's is 0.056. So, it is actually the earth that has a more circular path.

The Moon always show the same face to us, it's revolution on its axis always present the same side to us

The solar system is a very old place, and bodies that orbit one another tend to get tidally locked over time. All bodies that orbit will eventually become tidal locked. And, the earth/moon system isn't the only body in the solar system to be tidally locked, or nearly so. Hell, it is a fairly commonly inferred principle in the galaxy, and seen in other star systems, but I'll leave it to you to figure that

The Moon is older than the Earth

Nope. Again, you are just wrong. The earth predates the moon.

The Heavier metals are on the surface of the Moon, the white shine of the Moon is due to a high concentration

Nope, wrong again. The rocks on the surface of the moon are basalts which are the same as the rocks on earth's sea floor, or places the Columbia River Plateau, or Deccan Plateau, or the Central Siberian Plateau, or... get the ideal? There are numerous places on earth with the same geology.

The Marias, the seas (that only face earth side) are apparently due to an outpouring lava, yet the Moon was never hot enough nor ever had any volcanic activity to create natural lava seas.

Wrong again! Damn, this is becoming tedious. The mares are were created from large impacts during the Late Heavy Bombardment period of the solar system. The earth went through the same thing, but tectonics has recycled the surface of earth many times since then.


The Marias contain 80% of the Mascons, that is weird anomalous areas of concentrated mass that perturbed the orbits of early probes sent to orbit about the Moon. The Mascon have been mapped and they are all located at the center of large craters

More nonsense. It doesn't even make sense! There is nothing weird about gravitational differences within different regions of a area. Betcha didn't know, but we have those, here, on earth, too.

The Moon and the Sun have an unusual synchronicity in that they share the same northern-most and southern-most spot to rise and set throughout the year and they do at the same time. The Sun hit it's northernmost point when the Moon is at it's southernmost point

You're just making this up, now. Actually, I think you are just confused. It appears that you are conflating a couple of different concepts, but I'll be damned if I'm going to explain it to you.

It has no atmosphere, yet in 1971 a 100 mile cloud of water vapor was reported moving across the Moon surface

lol... a few ions doesn't make a "100 mile cloud", but we have know of lunar outgassing for at least a couple of hundred years. There is actually name for it, find it if you can.

Lunar rocks contain brass, mica, amphibole, near-pure titanium, Uranium 236 and Neptunium 237 — elements not previously found in nature, and rust proof iron.

Your embarrassing yourself... there is no brass, which kind of mica? We find quite a few varieties here on terra firma, all titanium is pure titanium by definition; it is an element- that is basic grammar school stuff!

Why do I waste my time??? 236U is formed by the decay of 238U which has a half-life of about 4.5 billion years, and also by interaction with relativistic particles... you know, things that make space flight so dangerous for astronauts.

The Moon is apparently hollow are rings like a bells when hit by a heavy object.

No. No it doesn't. What you wrote betrays a fundamental ignorance of basic science. I'll let you figure out why that is incorrect.

There is still no Theory consistent with our understanding of celestial mechanics that explain how the Moon got into orbit in the first place. "Looking at all the anomaly's and unanswered questions regarding the Moon, the best explanation for the Moon is observational error, it doesn't exist" -- Irwin Shaprio, Harvard Smithsonian Centre for astrophysics

Yes, there is a perfectly good theory on how the moon came into being, the rest of the crap that you wrote is just a bunch of ignorant nonsense. What you presented was one large argument from incredulity. You know, it is amazing that over 2500 years ago smart men debated the fallacy of your argument, and it is still being used today.

"At what point did you reject the hypothesis that you're too dumb to understand how good the idea is?" —Dilbert, cartoon character

EDIT: some words and tags

  • You should have started with the OP. There is still no viable Theory that accounts for how an object as large as the Moon got into orbit around the Earth; that's first
  • Second, you say it's a "Coincidence" that an object far too big to even be in orbit around us is the same apparent size as the Sun. To which I respond, having an object far too big to be in our orbit AND be large enough to cause total solar and lunar eclipses are either two incredible, impossible coincidence or they are a signature that it's not a natural body, but an artificial one.
  • I stand corrected on the orbits
  • Age of the Earth 4.5B, Moon rocks have been dates to over 5B years
  • ....more when I return.
 
  • You should have started with the OP. There is still no viable Theory that accounts for how an object as large as the Moon got into orbit around the Earth; that's first
  • Second, you say it's a "Coincidence" that an object far too big to even be in orbit around us is the same apparent size as the Sun. To which I respond, having an object far too big to be in our orbit AND be large enough to cause total solar and lunar eclipses are either two incredible, impossible coincidence or they are a signature that it's not a natural body, but an artificial one.
  • I stand corrected on the orbits
  • Age of the Earth 4.5B, Moon rocks have been dates to over 5B years
  • ....more when I return.

What you don't seem to understand is that the moon doesn't orbit the earth; they both orbit each other. It is a binary planetary system with the barycenter located about 1700 km below the surface of earth. We just colloquially call a planet/moon system. This explains why the distance to the moon, when at the same position in its orbit, can vary by several thousand kilometers.

The Giant Impact hypothesis for the formation of Luna is well understood and explains some of your other concerns about lunar geology, e,g; similar simatic terrain compositions on both Luna and earth. If the moon didn't form from earth material, then the isotope chemistry of the two would be different.

I don't know where you got the ideal that the moon is 1/2billion years older than the earth, but the evidence is clear that Luna formed after earth.

I'm just curious, have you ever taken a post-secondary science class at a university, and if so, was it above a freshman level introductory course? Because your understanding of the sciences seems to indicate that you haven't.
 
The OP was comparing a hollow moon to AGW in terms of scientific proof. It is interesting that those responding ridiculed the comparison but did not cite any proof of AGW.

I am curious about the Moon in terms of its origination, composition and peculiar relationship to the Earth. How does the Moon's mass compare with that of Earth? Could it have a molten core? Is it essential for life on Earth? Any easy-to-read references?
 
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  • You should have started with the OP. There is still no viable Theory that accounts for how an object as large as the Moon got into orbit around the Earth; that's first
  • Second, you say it's a "Coincidence" that an object far too big to even be in orbit around us is the same apparent size as the Sun. To which I respond, having an object far too big to be in our orbit AND be large enough to cause total solar and lunar eclipses are either two incredible, impossible coincidence or they are a signature that it's not a natural body, but an artificial one.
  • I stand corrected on the orbits
  • Age of the Earth 4.5B, Moon rocks have been dates to over 5B years
  • ....more when I return.

What you don't seem to understand is that the moon doesn't orbit the earth; they both orbit each other. It is a binary planetary system with the barycenter located about 1700 km below the surface of earth. We just colloquially call a planet/moon system. This explains why the distance to the moon, when at the same position in its orbit, can vary by several thousand kilometers.

The Giant Impact hypothesis for the formation of Luna is well understood and explains some of your other concerns about lunar geology, e,g; similar simatic terrain compositions on both Luna and earth. If the moon didn't form from earth material, then the isotope chemistry of the two would be different.

I don't know where you got the ideal that the moon is 1/2billion years older than the earth, but the evidence is clear that Luna formed after earth.

I'm just curious, have you ever taken a post-secondary science class at a university, and if so, was it above a freshman level introductory course? Because your understanding of the sciences seems to indicate that you haven't.

If the moon and earth are so chemically similar, what happened to the Mars sized object that supposedly crashed into earth to spew out the material to make the moon, theres no trace of it left.

So then after the whack, the Molten moon was bombarded to make the Maria's that only face Earth?

And there's no other ejecta material floating in orbit? That's a lot of coincidences no?

Moon rocks have been dated at over 5 B years, check it out
 
The OP was comparing a hollow moon to AGW in terms of scientific proof. It is interesting that those responding ridiculed the comparison but not cite any proof of AGW.

I am curious about the Moon in terms of its origination, composition and peculiar relationship to the Earth. How does the Moon's mass compare with that of Earth? Could it have a molten core? Is it essential for life on Earth? Any easy-to-read references?

The easy references all ignore the fact that something as huge as the moon has no business being in orbit with Earth in the first place.
 
OP, you present a bunch of specious nonsense that you cut and paste from some tinfoil hat website, but anyone with a modest understanding of the science will recognize the mumblings of a fools.

The Moon is the exact same apparent size as the Sun and account for total eclipses.

So what. Correlation does not imply causation. That is the one thing that all conspiracy theorists can't seem to grasp. The moon happens to be 400 times smaller than the sun; which coincidentally happens to be 400 times the distance.

The Moon has an almost perfect circular orbit, Earth has an elliptical orbit

Nope. You're just wrong. The earth has an eccentricity of 0.018; whereas the moon's is 0.056. So, it is actually the earth that has a more circular path.

The Moon always show the same face to us, it's revolution on its axis always present the same side to us

The solar system is a very old place, and bodies that orbit one another tend to get tidally locked over time. All bodies that orbit will eventually become tidal locked. And, the earth/moon system isn't the only body in the solar system to be tidally locked, or nearly so. Hell, it is a fairly commonly inferred principle in the galaxy, and seen in other star systems, but I'll leave it to you to figure that

The Moon is older than the Earth

Nope. Again, you are just wrong. The earth predates the moon.

The Heavier metals are on the surface of the Moon, the white shine of the Moon is due to a high concentration

Nope, wrong again. The rocks on the surface of the moon are basalts which are the same as the rocks on earth's sea floor, or places the Columbia River Plateau, or Deccan Plateau, or the Central Siberian Plateau, or... get the ideal? There are numerous places on earth with the same geology.

The Marias, the seas (that only face earth side) are apparently due to an outpouring lava, yet the Moon was never hot enough nor ever had any volcanic activity to create natural lava seas.

Wrong again! Damn, this is becoming tedious. The mares are were created from large impacts during the Late Heavy Bombardment period of the solar system. The earth went through the same thing, but tectonics has recycled the surface of earth many times since then.


The Marias contain 80% of the Mascons, that is weird anomalous areas of concentrated mass that perturbed the orbits of early probes sent to orbit about the Moon. The Mascon have been mapped and they are all located at the center of large craters

More nonsense. It doesn't even make sense! There is nothing weird about gravitational differences within different regions of a area. Betcha didn't know, but we have those, here, on earth, too.

The Moon and the Sun have an unusual synchronicity in that they share the same northern-most and southern-most spot to rise and set throughout the year and they do at the same time. The Sun hit it's northernmost point when the Moon is at it's southernmost point

You're just making this up, now. Actually, I think you are just confused. It appears that you are conflating a couple of different concepts, but I'll be damned if I'm going to explain it to you.

It has no atmosphere, yet in 1971 a 100 mile cloud of water vapor was reported moving across the Moon surface

lol... a few ions doesn't make a "100 mile cloud", but we have know of lunar outgassing for at least a couple of hundred years. There is actually name for it, find it if you can.

Lunar rocks contain brass, mica, amphibole, near-pure titanium, Uranium 236 and Neptunium 237 — elements not previously found in nature, and rust proof iron.

Your embarrassing yourself... there is no brass, which kind of mica? We find quite a few varieties here on terra firma, all titanium is pure titanium by definition; it is an element- that is basic grammar school stuff!

Why do I waste my time??? 236U is formed by the decay of 238U which has a half-life of about 4.5 billion years, and also by interaction with relativistic particles... you know, things that make space flight so dangerous for astronauts.

The Moon is apparently hollow are rings like a bells when hit by a heavy object.

No. No it doesn't. What you wrote betrays a fundamental ignorance of basic science. I'll let you figure out why that is incorrect.

There is still no Theory consistent with our understanding of celestial mechanics that explain how the Moon got into orbit in the first place. "Looking at all the anomaly's and unanswered questions regarding the Moon, the best explanation for the Moon is observational error, it doesn't exist" -- Irwin Shaprio, Harvard Smithsonian Centre for astrophysics

Yes, there is a perfectly good theory on how the moon came into being, the rest of the crap that you wrote is just a bunch of ignorant nonsense. What you presented was one large argument from incredulity. You know, it is amazing that over 2500 years ago smart men debated the fallacy of your argument, and it is still being used today.

"At what point did you reject the hypothesis that you're too dumb to understand how good the idea is?" —Dilbert, cartoon character

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From NASA: Furthermore, shallow moonquakes lasted a remarkably long time. Once they got going, all continued more than 10 minutes. "The moon was ringing like a bell," Neal says.

NASA - Moonquakes
 
Alaska earthquake rings the Earth like a bell - CSMonitor.com

The quake was so large and deep that it triggered dozens of aftershocks within an hour and prompted enough shaking to be picked up by seismometers around the world over the next 24 hours, said Mike West, a seismologist who serves as director of the Alaska Earthquake Center.

A tsunami wave of roughly 7.5 inches was measured at Amchitka Island, in the Aleutian Islands chain, and lesser heights were recorded at other islands, said National Tsunami Warning Center oceanographer Bo Bahng.

"When you've got an earthquake that big, it rings the Earth like a bell," West said.

OK, Frankie Boy, you proposing the that Earth is also hollow?
 
For the evidence of AGW, this site is from the largest scientific society on earth, the American Institute of Physics.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

In the 19th century, scientists realized that gases in the atmosphere cause a "greenhouse effect" which affects the planet's temperature. These scientists were interested chiefly in the possibility that a lower level of carbon dioxide gas might explain the ice ages of the distant past. At the turn of the century, Svante Arrhenius calculated that emissions from human industry might someday bring a global warming. Other scientists dismissed his idea as faulty. In 1938, G.S. Callendar argued that the level of carbon dioxide was climbing and raising global temperature, but most scientists found his arguments implausible. It was almost by chance that a few researchers in the 1950s discovered that global warming truly was possible. In the early 1960s, C.D. Keeling measured the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere: it was rising fast. Researchers began to take an interest, struggling to understand how the level of carbon dioxide had changed in the past, and how the level was influenced by chemical and biological forces. They found that the gas plays a crucial role in climate change, so that the rising level could gravely affect our future.
 
Of course the moon is hollow. If it wasn't, it would weigh too much and fall. How else could it float up there like that?
 

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