The Obama Medicare Plan: Rob It and Let it Die

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    The Obama Medicare Plan: Rob It and Let it Die - Reince Priebus - Page 1

     
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    It's his America plan.
     
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    The Obama Medicare plan is to address the cost drivers that make the program (and, ultimately, every private sector health plan, as well) unsustainable: the inflationary payment mechanisms and flawed delivery systems that have plagued the health system for decades.

    Remove the perverse incentives that make it more lucrative to provide worse care inefficiently, and instead reward doctors and hospitals for providing better care more efficiently. Reorganize the system so that it not only can but is encouraged to deliver better care less expensively. One of the few private sector pilots to taking this approach--replacing fee-for-service reimbursement with new payment mechanisms and incentivizing higher quality care--saw costs drop 10% in a single year last year for providers making that transition, at the same time quality improved.

    This is the only way to save Medicare--and the rest of us. And Obama is the only one in this race who's shown any interest in making Medicare, and health care more generally, more sustainable.
     
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    the BIG difference is that under the Ryan plan your health care is patient-centered.....not government-centered.....
     
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    Entirely wrong. "Patient-centered" is a term of art that actually means something, not just a buzzword for making Ryancare sound like it doesn't shit all over seniors.

    And what it means goes directly to what I was just talking about: payment and delivery system reforms, aimed at overcoming the fragmented system that leaves patients (and providers) in the dark right now. It's not about how you pick your insurance, it's about how the health care delivery system treats you when you're a patient in it. It's about the relationships your doctors have with you and the relationships your doctors have with each other, as well as the infrastructure that supports those relationships. And that's a delivery system design issue.

    Which isn't something Ryan takes an interest in. Obama's reforms, on the other hand, are quite interested in finding ways to make the system more conducive to those kinds of positive re-arrangements. Coupons for insurance don't quite get to the level of making care itself better, more effective, and less expensive. Yet another reason Obama's Medicare reforms are far superior to Ryan's.
     
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    Actually the op...while a tad dramatic is true.....that is his plan....MC won't be needed when the Gov has to step in because there will be no Private Insurers.
     
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    This is an important point. While I can understand people not wanting government sticking its nose into the health care delivery process, what they don't know is how much insurance companies stick their nose into the process.

    That's why I'm for a public/private partnership, a Medicare-for-all foundation and a robust, free-market supplemental system. The foundation would provide the preventive and diagnostic coverage that we so desperately need to keep mid-term and long-term costs down. Sadly, those who knee-jerk against that idea have no idea how much they're paying for our system's inefficiencies. The radio tells 'em what to say, they say it.

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    Republicans must be even more scared than I thought of the consequences of Romney's selection of Ryan for VP if they're trying to make this claim.
     
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    No....you still don't get it....

    "Patient-centered" means the patient is the buyer of his own health insurance....in a free competitive market....

    this is the only way we are going to bring costs down and get decent service as well...

    Obama may have all kinds of cute little ways to "deliver" healthcare (or ration it) but it is always government-centric.....meaning it's run by the government where the patient has no real control or choice....
     
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    Obama stole nearly a TRILLION from Medicare.....how is that going to help seniors.....?

    The choice of Ryan is a direct confrontation of Obama's destructive policies....
     

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