The Obama File: Democratic Socialists Of America

[rdean]

If you guys hate the communists and socialists so much, why are you always trying to do business with them? Hmmm?

 

[Political Junky]

They love doing business with Communist China.
They refuse to do business with Cuba, because it's Communist.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

They love doing business with Communist China.
They refuse to do business with Cuba, because it's Communist.

Did you have anything else to add about the difference of the European governments allowing their people to firearm ownership, the U.S. government which can't infring upon the rights of Americans?

 

[Douger]

Oh, geez! get off it already!

I'm a socialist and I'm severely disappointed with Obama. Shit! He had the perfect opportunity to socialize the entire banking industry and he didn't do it. Damn!

Get a clue. Obama is not a socialist. Bummer.

I agree. He's a whore puppet for wall street. a " Hey Boy".
What murka really needs is a milder version of Hugo Chavez.
Banking, energy and BIG ag should be nationalized.
All mining within the US .The profits go to the people via infrastructure.
No more Goldman Sucks.
No more Wachovia.
No more Florida power and light.
No more Texaco. No more private coal companies.
No more Cargill, ADM, or Mosanto--------within US borders.
Chavez' people are still on an incentive based pay system....it just isn't a 5-30 million bonus every fucking year.
murka is a joke. These assholes rip the tops off of your mountains sickening ignorant, toothless,flag waving, assholes and walk away with billions.
Gawd blass murka. That summa that thar kaptalizm. Bullshit. It's rape.
Ignorant sheep.

 

[daveman]

Socialist?

You forgot Communist, Marxist, White hating, anti-American, Muslim, teleprompter reading, golf playing, Oprah loving....

Did I mention where he was born in Kenya?

None of that is necessary. "Socialist" is bad enough -- and it's true.

 

[daveman]

Oh, geez! get off it already!

I'm a socialist and I'm severely disappointed with Obama. Shit! He had the perfect opportunity to socialize the entire banking industry and he didn't do it. Damn!

Get a clue. Obama is not a socialist. Bummer.

It's nothing to be proud of being a socialist. that is unless you hate the freedoms that you have as an American.

It's not so much that socialists hate their own freedoms; it's that they hate everyone else's.

All animals are equal -- but some are more equal than others.

 

[theHawk]

If you guys hate the communists and socialists so much, why are you always trying to do business with them? Hmmm?

Why is it that if a private company does business with China its "the Republicans"?
Companies do what they do to make a profit and survive. You should be asking yourself why our companies have to do business with such countries just to stay afloat. I personally know business people that HAVE to use Chinese goods just to be competitive, not because they want to.

As a true conservative, I fully support tariffs against such nations. Not necessarily because they are "communist" but because they are not held to the same labor and environmental standards we hold ourselves to. Tariffs should be put in place to make up that difference. Then, we'd see a lot less business being done with shitholes like China.

 

[rightwinger]

I don't know how any true American can support Socialism. We should each be required to take care of ourselves without the help of the evil government who wants to rule our lives and establish death panels

We don't need socialist programs like..

- Education
- Police and Fire protection
- Roads, bridges, tunnels
- Water and sewer systems
- Government funded medical research
- Armed forces

 

[theHawk]

I don't know how any true American can support Socialism. We should each be required to take care of ourselves without the help of the evil government who wants to rule our lives and establish death panels

We don't need socialist programs like..

- Education
- Police and Fire protection
- Roads, bridges, tunnels
- Water and sewer systems
- Government funded medical research
- Armed forces

Wow you're an idiot. None of those things is "socialism".
All of those things can also be done with local governments, save the armed forces.

 

[rdean]

I don't know how any true American can support Socialism. We should each be required to take care of ourselves without the help of the evil government who wants to rule our lives and establish death panels

We don't need socialist programs like..

- Education
- Police and Fire protection
- Roads, bridges, tunnels
- Water and sewer systems
- Government funded medical research
- Armed forces

Wow you're an idiot. None of those things is "socialism".
All of those things can also be done with local governments, save the armed forces.

Oh, I get it. If it's "local" government, it's NOT socialism?

 

[rightwinger]

I don't know how any true American can support Socialism. We should each be required to take care of ourselves without the help of the evil government who wants to rule our lives and establish death panels

We don't need socialist programs like..

- Education
- Police and Fire protection
- Roads, bridges, tunnels
- Water and sewer systems
- Government funded medical research
- Armed forces

Wow you're an idiot. None of those things is "socialism".
All of those things can also be done with local governments, save the armed forces.

Oh I get it now......

It is only SOCIALISM if Obama does it

 

[Oddball]

I don't know how any true American can support Socialism. We should each be required to take care of ourselves without the help of the evil government who wants to rule our lives and establish death panels

We don't need socialist programs like..

- Education
- Police and Fire protection
- Roads, bridges, tunnels
- Water and sewer systems
- Government funded medical research
- Armed forces

Ahhh...The old red herring boat nets yet another bounty.

Just because those things are done by collectivist structures doesn't mean that's the only or most efficient way that they can be done. In fact, the late great Robert Nozick came up with workable ways each and every one of those things could be done by free enterprise and voluntary exchange. Moreover, only one item there -the armed forces- is provided for in the federal charter.

In any case, if that's the best list you can come up with of the "great successes" of socialism in America, I wouldn't be too eager to bring up the matter to begin with.

 

[rightwinger]

I don't know how any true American can support Socialism. We should each be required to take care of ourselves without the help of the evil government who wants to rule our lives and establish death panels

We don't need socialist programs like..

- Education
- Police and Fire protection
- Roads, bridges, tunnels
- Water and sewer systems
- Government funded medical research
- Armed forces

Ahhh...The old red herring boat nets yet another bounty.

Just because those things are done by collectivist structures doesn't mean that's the only or most efficient way that they can be done. In fact, the late great Robert Nozick came up with workable ways each and every one of those things could be done by free enterprise and voluntary exchange. Moreover, only one item there -the armed forces- is provided for in the federal charter.

In any case, if that's the best list you can come up with of the "great successes" of socialism in America, I wouldn't be too eager to bring up the matter to begin with.

Interesting..

Do you have a case study? Can you show me any country that has ever successfully implemented these functions as free enterprise or voluntary exchange?

There are hundreds of nations in the world. There must be one you can site

 

[Coyote]

You don't expect to be taken seriously with such a source, do you?

It's just another birther site - what a joke.

 

[Coyote]

I don't know how any true American can support Socialism. We should each be required to take care of ourselves without the help of the evil government who wants to rule our lives and establish death panels

We don't need socialist programs like..

- Education
- Police and Fire protection
- Roads, bridges, tunnels
- Water and sewer systems
- Government funded medical research
- Armed forces

Ahhh...The old red herring boat nets yet another bounty.

Just because those things are done by collectivist structures doesn't mean that's the only or most efficient way that they can be done. In fact, the late great Robert Nozick came up with workable ways each and every one of those things could be done by free enterprise and voluntary exchange. Moreover, only one item there -the armed forces- is provided for in the federal charter.

In any case, if that's the best list you can come up with of the "great successes" of socialism in America, I wouldn't be too eager to bring up the matter to begin with.

Doesn't mean it isn't either. The problem with this sort of philosophy is it sounds great in theory (libertarianism) but - like pure socialism - it doesn't work in real life. It doesn't take into account human nature and human nature often isn't "ideal".

 

[Oddball]

I don't know how any true American can support Socialism. We should each be required to take care of ourselves without the help of the evil government who wants to rule our lives and establish death panels

We don't need socialist programs like..

- Education
- Police and Fire protection
- Roads, bridges, tunnels
- Water and sewer systems
- Government funded medical research
- Armed forces

Ahhh...The old red herring boat nets yet another bounty.

Just because those things are done by collectivist structures doesn't mean that's the only or most efficient way that they can be done. In fact, the late great Robert Nozick came up with workable ways each and every one of those things could be done by free enterprise and voluntary exchange. Moreover, only one item there -the armed forces- is provided for in the federal charter.

In any case, if that's the best list you can come up with of the "great successes" of socialism in America, I wouldn't be too eager to bring up the matter to begin with.

Interesting..

Do you have a case study? Can you show me any country that has ever successfully implemented these functions as free enterprise or voluntary exchange?

There are hundreds of nations in the world. There must be one you can site

Private schools operate each and every day in America and they kick the living hell out of them, insofar as student performance is concerned.

Private contractors run turnpikes every day...For the most part, their roads are markedly better and the travel plazas are cleaner.

And I didn't even need to leave America's shores to find those examples.

How about this one...Can you name any gubmint run operation that has a better, more valuable, better performing product than an analogous product or service in the marketplace?

 

[Oddball]

I don't know how any true American can support Socialism. We should each be required to take care of ourselves without the help of the evil government who wants to rule our lives and establish death panels

We don't need socialist programs like..

- Education
- Police and Fire protection
- Roads, bridges, tunnels
- Water and sewer systems
- Government funded medical research
- Armed forces

Ahhh...The old red herring boat nets yet another bounty.

Just because those things are done by collectivist structures doesn't mean that's the only or most efficient way that they can be done. In fact, the late great Robert Nozick came up with workable ways each and every one of those things could be done by free enterprise and voluntary exchange. Moreover, only one item there -the armed forces- is provided for in the federal charter.

In any case, if that's the best list you can come up with of the "great successes" of socialism in America, I wouldn't be too eager to bring up the matter to begin with.

Doesn't mean it isn't either. The problem with this sort of philosophy is it sounds great in theory (libertarianism) but - like pure socialism - it doesn't work in real life. It doesn't take into account human nature and human nature often isn't "ideal".

Unfortunately for you, it does mean they're run less efficiently, as gubmint isn't subject to the market forces which force such efficiencies in order for the operation to remain an economically viable enterprise.

 

[Coyote]

Ahhh...The old red herring boat nets yet another bounty.

Just because those things are done by collectivist structures doesn't mean that's the only or most efficient way that they can be done. In fact, the late great Robert Nozick came up with workable ways each and every one of those things could be done by free enterprise and voluntary exchange. Moreover, only one item there -the armed forces- is provided for in the federal charter.

In any case, if that's the best list you can come up with of the "great successes" of socialism in America, I wouldn't be too eager to bring up the matter to begin with.

Interesting..

Do you have a case study? Can you show me any country that has ever successfully implemented these functions as free enterprise or voluntary exchange?

There are hundreds of nations in the world. There must be one you can site

Private schools operate each and every day in America and they kick the living hell out of them, insofar as student performance is concerned.

Private contractors run turnpikes every day...For the most part, their roads are markedly better and the travel plazas are cleaner.

And I didn't even need to leave America's shores to find those examples.

How about this one...Can you name any gubmint run operation that has a better, more valuable, better performing product than an analogous product or service in the marketplace?

(Some) private schools can kick the living hell out of (some) public schools because they can pick and choose their student body.

Public schools MUST take everyone.

 

[Coyote]

Ahhh...The old red herring boat nets yet another bounty.

Just because those things are done by collectivist structures doesn't mean that's the only or most efficient way that they can be done. In fact, the late great Robert Nozick came up with workable ways each and every one of those things could be done by free enterprise and voluntary exchange. Moreover, only one item there -the armed forces- is provided for in the federal charter.

In any case, if that's the best list you can come up with of the "great successes" of socialism in America, I wouldn't be too eager to bring up the matter to begin with.

Doesn't mean it isn't either. The problem with this sort of philosophy is it sounds great in theory (libertarianism) but - like pure socialism - it doesn't work in real life. It doesn't take into account human nature and human nature often isn't "ideal".

Unfortunately for you, it does mean they're run less efficiently, as gubmint isn't subject to the market forces which force such efficiencies in order for the operation to remain an economically viable enterprise.

The most efficient form of government is a dictatorship. Sometimes inefficiencies aren't such a bad thing.

 

[rightwinger]

Ahhh...The old red herring boat nets yet another bounty.

Just because those things are done by collectivist structures doesn't mean that's the only or most efficient way that they can be done. In fact, the late great Robert Nozick came up with workable ways each and every one of those things could be done by free enterprise and voluntary exchange. Moreover, only one item there -the armed forces- is provided for in the federal charter.

In any case, if that's the best list you can come up with of the "great successes" of socialism in America, I wouldn't be too eager to bring up the matter to begin with.

Interesting..

Do you have a case study? Can you show me any country that has ever successfully implemented these functions as free enterprise or voluntary exchange?

There are hundreds of nations in the world. There must be one you can site

Private schools operate each and every day in America and they kick the living hell out of them, insofar as student performance is concerned.

Private contractors run turnpikes every day...For the most part, their roads are markedly better and the travel plazas are cleaner.

And I didn't even need to leave America's shores to find those examples.

How about this one...Can you name any gubmint run operation that has a better, more valuable, better performing product than an analogous product or service in the marketplace?

Show me a single country with all schools run as private institutions where they have to accept EVERYONE....not just the best or those who can pay

Show me an example of a privately funded road....built and operated by a private company. We tried that in this country in the early 1800s. Build your own roads, charge your own tolls. Anarchy