The NYT Strikes Another Blow For Collectivism

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    (Sung to the refrain of "Just Prancing In The Conga Line")

    "Posted on September 11, 2011 by Scott Johnson in Liberals

    Krugmania strikes deep

    New York Times columnist Paul Krugman writes on his New York Times blog:

    Is it just me, or are the 9/11 commemorations oddly subdued?

    Actually, I don’t think it’s me, and it’s not really that odd.

    What happened after 9/11 — and I think even people on the right know this, whether they admit it or not — was deeply shameful. Te atrocity should have been a unifying event, but instead it became a wedge issue. Fake heroes like Bernie Kerik, Rudy Giuliani, and, yes, George W. Bush raced to cash in on the horror. And then the attack was used to justify an unrelated war the neocons wanted to fight, for all the wrong reasons.

    A lot of other people behaved badly. How many of our professional pundits — people who should have understood very well what was happening — took the easy way out, turning a blind eye to the corruption and lending their support to the hijacking of the atrocity?

    The memory of 9/11 has been irrevocably poisoned; it has become an occasion for shame. And in its heart, the nation knows it.

    I’m not going to allow comments on this post, for obvious reasons.

    This does not appear to be the work of a Krugman impersonator."


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    Krugman is projecting. He's part of the "We deserved it!!" crowd.

    He's an idiot.
     
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    to a certain extent he's right though. giuliani based a presidential campaign on it. W found a way to work 9/11 into just about any political speech he ever made. hell country musicians (looking at you, toby keith) capitalized on it to an unbelievable extreme.

    We mounted wars in iraq and afghanistan on premises that never would have passed the smell test had people not been so caught up in post 9/11 hysteria. people tried to use it to deny muslims property and worship rights.

    there were some good things that came out of the tragedy, lots of them, but there are some things we did as a nation, and allowed to be done, that we should rightfully be ashamed of.
     
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    You can be ashamed if you want. Don't presume to tell me I should be as well.

    BC titled this thread correctly. Krugman, the Times, and now you are telling everyone how we should feel.
     
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    True.

    And when we violate the fundamental tenets of the Bill of Rights, such as the Patriot Act, for example, in the context of ‘security,’ we provide yet another victory to the terrorists.
     
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    fine. if you're okay with allowing politicians to blatantly use a tragedy for their own ends that's okay with me. if you're fine with the american people, the press, and our elected officials not doing their duty and allowing us to go to war because we were caught up in hysteria that's fine.

    and if you aren't ashamed of those things, if you are fine with them, what would you be ashamed of?

    is there anything that we as a country could do that would embarass you?
     
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    can't believe i forgot to include that.
     
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    and then there was gnashing of the teeth and rending of clothing.
     
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    During WWII an American soldier on the front lines often found himself going through the belongings of an equally young German soldier he had just shot dead because the German soldier had refused to lay his weapons down and surrender. The American, after going through the dead soldiers personal effects, pictures of his mother, father, wife, girlfriend or children, the American soldier would likely remark to himself how much he and the young German he had just faced were alike. The next day the young American would likely be in contact with another young German who would likewise refuse to surrender and he would again be forced to shoot.
    In the intervening sixty six years since, America has witnessed two phenomena, the rise of the Nanny State and the collusion of the NEA and the other teachers associations with their conspirators in the Democratic Party to stop teaching history in the public schools, casting the nation's schoolchildren adrift, cutting them off from their historical moorings. The Nanny State meanwhile has deprived American Society of most of its incentives to survive, thrive and succeed, producing a very fertile field in which to sow and reap subversion.
    The absolute lack of any shred of knowlege of American history, where we came from, how we got here, has left Americans bereft of any inkling of how this nation got to the point where the Government saw fit and its way to install the Nanny State upoon us. The have no clue that the reason Hirohito surrendered on August 15th, 1945 was that he was faced with the extinction of the Japanese people, it was no longer a question of whether the war was lost, it was whether there would be any Japanese people left alive after the final shots were fired.
    American People today have absolutely no idea of just how much sacrifice, resolve, determination and intestinal fortitude it took to win that war, a war fought against two societies driven by visions of racial and ethnic superiority whose philosophies were rooted in the twelfth and foutrteenth centuries.
    The Marines on Iwo Jima were faced with 21,000 resourceful, relentless, determined defenders who would not surrender under any circumstances. They were forced to kill all but 200 of those defenders in order to secure the island. On Okinawa, half a month later, American soldiers and sailors faced nearly the same prospect against 120,000 Japanese defenders. They persevered in spite of this advance knowledge and they would have done so again on the Home Islands of Honshu and Hokkaido had they been asked.
    Islam is a religion rooted in the philosophies and precepts of an even earlier era than the Japanese and the Germans, the Eight Century, and their warriors ethos is quite similar to the Japanese Warrior's of 66years ago. The Chinese populations that found themselves under Islam's sway were fully converted in two generations. The men were all killed and the women became concubines.
    Osama bhin Laden remarked on the eve of the 9/11 attacks that America was like a "Weak Horse. Everybody prefers a strong horse to the weak one". Instead of collapsing immediately after the attacks took place, it took eighty six months before Amercans, aided and abetted by men like Paul Krugman of the NYT, and in contrast to their forebears, who arrived here seeking Liberty's promise "to breathe free", instead, seeking the promises of a benevolent master, elected the chimera Barack Hussein Obama. It is thirty two months into his reign and the American economy profoundly feels the effects of the chains and bonds he and his followers have slipped onto it, yet they still await the full placement of Obama's bonds and chains personally on them. When they finally arrive, you who voted for and sought his mastery, will have eminently deserved them.
     
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    i'm sorry, was there a pertinent, coherent thought in that (likely copied & pasted) drivel?
     

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