The Nuking of Nagasaki: Even More Immoral and Unnecessary than Hiroshima

[fncceo]

Nearly 1300 posts on revisionist history.

Impressive.

 

[gipper]

Yes it is most certainly difficult to justify mass murder. Just stop trying.

. You should stop calling yourself an anarchist when it is obvious you are a nut in a pink tutu

I win again. Yippee.

 

[elektra]

Yes it is most certainly difficult to justify mass murder. Just stop trying.

. You should stop calling yourself an anarchist when it is obvious you are a nut in a pink tutu

I win again. Yippee.

You win what? An award for failing to understand what war is? What I find ironic is that you call yourself an anarchist yet you have not the stomach, the courage, to do what an anarchist would have to do, to begin anarchy. If you think that is winning, being called out on your hypocrisy. So be it. You are an anarchist? Only on the internet.

 

[elektra]

Surely it was obscene for us to nuke Nagasaki just three days, 72 hours, after we had nuked Hiroshima.

War, how obscene. How long would of been adequate to wait? How many days between bombing?

 

[fncceo]

You are an anarchist? Only on the internet.

An anarchist is anyone deluded enough to believe they won't be the first ones to be eaten when societal rules are no longer enforced.

 

[elektra]

It is pitiful that so many do not understand nor have the courage to win a war.

How hard should we have fought Japan? That is the question that has been expressed in this thread.

In so many words, it has been said the USA should of surrendered to Japan. It has been stated we should not of destroyed any Japanese cities, anywhere you can find a woman or child.

So much it is claimed we should of done. In the heat of the battle of okinawa the revisionists state implicetedly that we should of given anything to the japanese.

During a battle, we should of changed our policy and tried to negotiate peace. To do that, they would have our fighting forces carry the white flag onto the battlefield and beg the japanese to stop shooting.

War strategy, to stop fighting and seek peace on Japanese terms. That is the USA surrendering to Japan.

Pathetic are the fools who have argued that we did not wave the white flag furst.

 

[gipper]

Surely it was obscene for us to nuke Nagasaki just three days, 72 hours, after we had nuked Hiroshima.

War, how obscene. How long would of been adequate to wait? How many days between bombing?

So once again you post opinion in an effort to justify a war crime.

You must be an advocate for total war. Apparently you believe mass murdering thousands of defenseless women and children is entirely acceptable in war. Please explain why this is acceptable?

Secondly, is it your belief that Truman’s use of the nukes was entirely acceptable, because waiting a few months for Japan’s leadership surrender was unacceptable? Please explain.

 

[fncceo]

You must be an advocate for total war.

Anything worth doing ... is worth doing right.

 

[gipper]

You must be an advocate for total war.

Anything worth doing ... is worth doing right.

Total war is not right. Only dummies believe that.

 

[fncceo]

You must be an advocate for total war.

Anything worth doing ... is worth doing right.

Total war is not right. Only dummies believe that.

As long as your opinion is reasoned, well though out, and adequately supported by historical fact.

 

[elektra]

Surely it was obscene for us to nuke Nagasaki just three days, 72 hours, after we had nuked Hiroshima.

War, how obscene. How long would of been adequate to wait? How many days between bombing?

So once again you post opinion in an effort to justify a war crime.

You must be an advocate for total war. Apparently you believe mass murdering thousands of defenseless women and children is entirely acceptable in war. Please explain why this is acceptable?

Secondly, is it your belief that Truman’s use of the nukes was entirely acceptable, because waiting a few months for Japan’s leadership surrender was unacceptable? Please explain.

I win, under your rules of war, the japanes are criminals, we were the police. How long do you wait to stop a mass muderer? You dont. You do everything in your power to stop a mass muderer.

Thank you for proving yourself wrong.

The mass murderer must be stopped, you do not negotiate. You stop the crime from continuing.

 

[fncceo]

japanes ear criminals

Japanese Ear Criminal?

 

[Taz]

Whatever labored, embarrassing arguments one can make for the nuking of Hiroshima cannot be made for the nuking of Nagasaki just three days later. From my article "Did We Really Need to Use the Atomic Bomb Against Japan?":

On August 9, 1945, just three days after we nuked Hiroshima, and before Japan’s leaders had sufficient time to process and respond to our nuclear attack on Hiroshima, we dropped an atomic bomb on the city of Nagasaki, which was home to Japan’s largest Christian population. The atomic bombing of Nagasaki was even more inexcusable than the nuking of Hiroshima. . . .

On August 9, we nuked Nagasaki, just three days after Hiroshima, and hours after the Soviets began to maul the Japanese army in Manchuria,, and while Japan’s civilian leaders were understandably absorbed with trying to process what had happened to Hiroshima and with responding to the Soviet attack in Manchuria. Surely Truman and other high officials knew that three days was not enough time for Japan’s government to formulate a formal response to the unprecedented use of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and to the Soviet invasion in Manchuria. Even McGeorge Bundy, who helped Henry Stimson write his defense of the atomic bombing of Japan, acknowledged that Truman was too quick to nuke Nagasaki:​

"It is hard to see that much could have been lost if there had been more time between the two bombs. . . . Such a delay would have been relatively easy, and I think right." (https://miketgriffith.com/files/immoraluse.pdf)
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The Japanese were not even able to get a scientific team to Hiroshima until August 7, the day after the attack. Meanwhile, Japan's leaders were getting conflicting, fragmentary information about what had happened in Hiroshima. Some Army officials were telling the government that the bombing of Hiroshima was merely a very large conventional bombing raid, and they were suppressing information about the kinds of wounds that had been inflicted. There was no Internet back then, no fax machines, no Skype.

Surely it was obscene for us to nuke Nagasaki just three days, 72 hours, after we had nuked Hiroshima.

We should have nuked Tokyo as well. Never forget Pearl Harbour.

 

[gipper]

You must be an advocate for total war.

Anything worth doing ... is worth doing right.

Total war is not right. Only dummies believe that.

As long as your opinion is reasoned, well though out, and adequately supported by historical fact.

Surely it was obscene for us to nuke Nagasaki just three days, 72 hours, after we had nuked Hiroshima.

War, how obscene. How long would of been adequate to wait? How many days between bombing?

So once again you post opinion in an effort to justify a war crime.

You must be an advocate for total war. Apparently you believe mass murdering thousands of defenseless women and children is entirely acceptable in war. Please explain why this is acceptable?

Secondly, is it your belief that Truman’s use of the nukes was entirely acceptable, because waiting a few months for Japan’s leadership surrender was unacceptable? Please explain.

I win, under your rules of war, the japanes ear criminals, we were the police. How long do you wait to stop a mass muderer? You dont. You do everything in your power to stop a mass muderer.

Thank you for proving yourself wrong.

The mass murderer must be stopped, you do not negotiate. You stop the crime from continuing.

Why can’t you admit Truman’s actions were undeniably a war crime, for which he should have hung?

Man up boys!

 

[Taz]

You must be an advocate for total war.

Anything worth doing ... is worth doing right.

Total war is not right. Only dummies believe that.

As long as your opinion is reasoned, well though out, and adequately supported by historical fact.

Surely it was obscene for us to nuke Nagasaki just three days, 72 hours, after we had nuked Hiroshima.

War, how obscene. How long would of been adequate to wait? How many days between bombing?

So once again you post opinion in an effort to justify a war crime.

You must be an advocate for total war. Apparently you believe mass murdering thousands of defenseless women and children is entirely acceptable in war. Please explain why this is acceptable?

Secondly, is it your belief that Truman’s use of the nukes was entirely acceptable, because waiting a few months for Japan’s leadership surrender was unacceptable? Please explain.

I win, under your rules of war, the japanes ear criminals, we were the police. How long do you wait to stop a mass muderer? You dont. You do everything in your power to stop a mass muderer.

Thank you for proving yourself wrong.

The mass murderer must be stopped, you do not negotiate. You stop the crime from continuing.

Why can’t you admit Truman’s actions were undeniably a war crime, for which he should have hung?

Man up boys!

We should have nuked Tokyo as well.

 

[fncceo]

Why can’t you admit Truman’s actions were undeniably a war crime, for which he should have hung?

If it's so undeniable, why was he never tried?

Obviously, no one agreed with you.

 

[gipper]

Why can’t you admit Truman’s actions were undeniably a war crime, for which he should have hung?

If it's so undeniable, why was he never tried?

Obviously, no one agreed with you.

LOL. Really?

 

[Unkotare]

Surely it was obscene for us to nuke Nagasaki just three days, 72 hours, after we had nuked Hiroshima.

War, how obscene. How long would of been adequate to wait? How many days between bombing?

So once again you post opinion in an effort to justify a war crime.

You must be an advocate for total war. Apparently you believe mass murdering thousands of defenseless women and children is entirely acceptable in war. Please explain why this is acceptable?

Secondly, is it your belief that Truman’s use of the nukes was entirely acceptable, because waiting a few months for Japan’s leadership surrender was unacceptable? Please explain.

I win, under your rules of war, the japanes ear criminals, we were the police. How long do you wait to stop a mass muderer? You dont. You do everything in your power to stop a mass muderer.

Thank you for proving yourself wrong.

The mass murderer must be stopped, you do not negotiate. You stop the crime from continuing.

So again, you are claiming the atomic bombs were dropped on civilians as an act of revenge on behalf of other countries?

 

[Unkotare]

japanes ear criminals

Japanese Ear Criminal?

Freudian slip?

 

[Taz]

Surely it was obscene for us to nuke Nagasaki just three days, 72 hours, after we had nuked Hiroshima.

War, how obscene. How long would of been adequate to wait? How many days between bombing?

So once again you post opinion in an effort to justify a war crime.

You must be an advocate for total war. Apparently you believe mass murdering thousands of defenseless women and children is entirely acceptable in war. Please explain why this is acceptable?

Secondly, is it your belief that Truman’s use of the nukes was entirely acceptable, because waiting a few months for Japan’s leadership surrender was unacceptable? Please explain.

I win, under your rules of war, the japanes ear criminals, we were the police. How long do you wait to stop a mass muderer? You dont. You do everything in your power to stop a mass muderer.

Thank you for proving yourself wrong.

The mass murderer must be stopped, you do not negotiate. You stop the crime from continuing.

So again, you are claiming the atomic bombs were dropped on civilians as an act of revenge on behalf of other countries?

Did you lose a lot of family members when we dropped the nukes?