The new (2nd) Boehner House bill passes

[Modbert]

You guys are so lost. It's like your stuck in a sink drain spinning in circles. One minute Ryan is a liar, the next minute he's quoted for truth. Which is it?

Nevermind I know its just whatever floats your boat for the moment.

Once again, I guess I'll have to ask this question.

Are you allowed to agree with someone at any point in time who you normally disagree with? You seem to be saying no.

Personally, I'm bringing up what Paul Ryan said because clearly you don't want to read what I have to say on the issue. So instead, I'll bring up what Paul Ryan said because there is absolutely no way you can call into question his ideology. You know it too. Which is why you attacked me instead of addressing what Paul said.

Nice try though.

 

[Modbert]

So what... read the truth... » The Debt Ceiling Debate – Yet Another Example of DC Giving Us What We Don’t Want - Big Government

So are you calling Paul Ryan a liar? You're going to have to do better than Andrew Breitbart's blog site.

 

[Richard-H]

The longer this goes on the worse it'll get for the Tea Party & Repugs.

If Obama invokes the 14th ammendment it will be an act of mercy to these wingnuts.

 

[007]

I guess the $4T in cuts proposed by the President went right by you....

Just keep being a good little repug drone and blathering all the bullshit they brainwashed you with.

Show us a link to actual cuts and well believe you. Otherwise your just full of hot air, just like O

At the end of the day it is not the President's job to present a detailed plan. That is the job of the Legislature. His job is to present a framework that he will accept and he did that at multiple levels... This is how all successful Presidents have operated for centuries.

His desire was a big plan that has 4T in cuts, reforms of entitlements and some revenue enhancements. Had the Republicans taken this they could have insured the cuts came up front but instead they were more concerned about protecting Hedge fund managers right to pay only 15% in taxes.

The Reid plan is his back up plan.

His "desire?" You want to tell us about the kenyan's DESIRES? Spending money and growing government is ALL THIS FUCKER HAS DONE SINCE HE'S TAKEN OFFICE, and you think we're going to believe this little SHIT wants to CUT SPENDING?

OK... I'll bite... LET'S START WITH REPEALING OBAMACARE.

 

[Modbert]

your you tube was Uploaded by ThinkProgress6 on Jul 14, 2011


the NY Times disagrees with Ryan....

Debt-Ceiling Deadline Might Not Really Be August 2

By National Journal staff
Updated: July 27, 2011 | 2:44 p.m.


The August 2 debt-ceiling deadline might not be as firm as the White House has insisted it is.

The New York Times reports that the date after which the U.S. will be unable to pay its bills may, in fact, be August 10. How so?

Even though the Treasury will not be statutorily permitted to borrow more to pay its bills on August 2, the federal government would have enough cash on hand to pay debts until August 10, according to estimates from Wall Street banks and a Washington research organization, The Times says.

more at-
Debt-Ceiling Deadline Might Not Really Be August 2 - National Journal staff - NationalJournal.com

Are you trying to say the clip I linked was false? If so, feel free to provide evidence otherwise.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/27/us/politics/27date.html?_r=1

From your own link:

The government will exhaust its ability to borrow more money on Aug. 2, which is equivalent to maxing out a credit card. But there still will be cash in the federal wallet.

Some Republicans have expressed skepticism about the Aug. 2 deadline, describing it as an artificial line drawn by the Obama administration for political reasons. Analysts emphasize, however, that the deadline is real; it’s just the date that is inexact.

Also this from your link:

Analysts also said that all of the estimates, including those from Treasury, were necessarily inexact, because they relied on variables like incoming tax payments. That means each passing day without a deal increases the risk that money will run out.

All told, the government plans to borrow almost $500 billion in August. If interest rates climb by even a tenth of a percentage point, the annual cost would rise by $500 million.

It's not worth risking even a single day.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

So will the dems in the senate make it happen? Can they compromise enough to satisfy the republicans and can the republicans compromise enough to statisfy the dems?

Or are we going to let shit hit the fan?

I'm just glad I have my "doom bunker" ready.

Pelosi Just said "NO" we will not compromise, it just popped up on the TV while im typing...wtf!

 

[Richard-H]

Show us a link to actual cuts and well believe you. Otherwise your just full of hot air, just like O

Sorry for not being in the negotiaing room at the time, but Boehner shot that deal down long before anything was published.

Boehner had his opportunity to make the President's plan public, but he walked out on it.

OK... so you're here just pumping gas for your messiah and can't prove shit.

Shut the fuck up odumbobot.

I can prove that you and the wingnuts in congress are a bunch of fucking morons...but Boehner & co. keep doing that for me!

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Why would a Democratic Senate and a Democratic president support a bill written by the rightwing of the Republican party?

they will take this bill and do what they will and send it back to the house, and we'll see whats what.

That is if harry allows it to be debated, which he didn't allow for the last plan.

they can, and I know that this is radical but, they can draft score and pass their own plan.

They can, but highly unlikely.
The President, thus the Democrats, want to bury the whole debt debate until after 2012.
Period.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

The longer this goes on the worse it'll get for the Tea Party & Repugs.

If Obama invokes the 14th ammendment it will be an act of mercy to these wingnuts.

are you kidding me....it looks just as bad for the left as it does for the far right.

Neither side is listening to the other side.

Pelosi "Bill is dead in the water"

morons

 

[Richard-H]

So will the dems in the senate make it happen? Can they compromise enough to satisfy the republicans and can the republicans compromise enough to statisfy the dems?

Or are we going to let shit hit the fan?

I'm just glad I have my "doom bunker" ready.

Pelosi Just said "NO" we will not compromise, it just popped up on the TV while im typing...wtf!

Of course the Dems won't compromise...they hold all the cards and they know it.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

You guys are so lost. It's like your stuck in a sink drain spinning in circles. One minute Ryan is a liar, the next minute he's quoted for truth. Which is it?

Nevermind I know its just whatever floats your boat for the moment.

Once again, I guess I'll have to ask this question.

Are you allowed to agree with someone at any point in time who you normally disagree with? You seem to be saying no.

Personally, I'm bringing up what Paul Ryan said because clearly you don't want to read what I have to say on the issue. So instead, I'll bring up what Paul Ryan said because there is absolutely no way you can call into question his ideology. You know it too. Which is why you attacked me instead of addressing what Paul said.

Nice try though.

Yea rightttt, because Ryan knows "ALL"
I busted your balls and "you know it" now go watch another episode of the muppets for some more insightful logic.

 

[007]

The longer this goes on the worse it'll get for the Tea Party & Repugs.

If Obama invokes the 14th ammendment it will be an act of mercy to these wingnuts.

Bull shit... the only people that believe that steaming pile of dog crap is you and any other brain dead, leftist, commie odumbobot.

Now on the other hand, you fucking socialist, leftist commies are going to get to get your asses handed to you next year. In fact, why don't you all buy your tickets to leave the country now to go live somewhere else when the Tea Party takes over everything.

 

[Richard-H]

The longer this goes on the worse it'll get for the Tea Party & Repugs.

If Obama invokes the 14th ammendment it will be an act of mercy to these wingnuts.

Bull shit... the only people that believe that steaming pile of dog crap is you and any other brain dead, leftist, commie odumbobot.

Now on the other hand, you fucking socialist, leftist commies are going to get to get your asses handed to you next year. In fact, why don't you all buy your tickets to leave the country now to go live somewhere else when the Tea Party takes over everything.

You live in a dream world!

 

[007]

Sorry for not being in the negotiaing room at the time, but Boehner shot that deal down long before anything was published.

Boehner had his opportunity to make the President's plan public, but he walked out on it.

OK... so you're here just pumping gas for your messiah and can't prove shit.

Shut the fuck up odumbobot.

I can prove that you and the wingnuts in congress are a bunch of fucking morons...but Boehner & co. keep doing that for me!

Are you really this stupid? You can't even put a little zing in a JOKE. What an absolute, pathetic little commie odumbobot.

 

[Modbert]

Yea rightttt, because Ryan knows "ALL"
I busted your balls and "you know it" now go watch another episode of the muppets for some more insightful logic.

You didn't bust my balls.

To give you a heads up, I've been doing this here for almost three years now. If you think you're going to faze me, gonna have to get in line behind Pale Rider among others.

You still haven't answered my question. I'll ask again:

Are you allowed to agree with someone at any point in time who you normally disagree with? You seem to be saying no.

You could not refute what Paul Ryan said whatsoever, so instead you attack me. I love it.

By the way, are you still pretending that you're any different than what you were preaching about a couple weeks ago? I see you still haven't changed your avatar.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

So will the dems in the senate make it happen? Can they compromise enough to satisfy the republicans and can the republicans compromise enough to statisfy the dems?

Or are we going to let shit hit the fan?

I'm just glad I have my "doom bunker" ready.

Pelosi Just said "NO" we will not compromise, it just popped up on the TV while im typing...wtf!

Of course the Dems won't compromise...they hold all the cards and they know it.

Yeah and we know it too...if they play this game they will not go blameless.

A pox on all their houses!

 

[Full-Auto]

Sorry for not being in the negotiaing room at the time, but Boehner shot that deal down long before anything was published.

Boehner had his opportunity to make the President's plan public, but he walked out on it.

OK... so you're here just pumping gas for your messiah and can't prove shit.

Shut the fuck up odumbobot.

I can prove that you and the wingnuts in congress are a bunch of fucking morons...but Boehner & co. keep doing that for me!

Post up then buddy. I dont think you can.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Yea rightttt, because Ryan knows "ALL"
I busted your balls and "you know it" now go watch another episode of the muppets for some more insightful logic.

You didn't bust my balls.

To give you a heads up, I've been doing this here for almost three years now. If you think you're going to faze me, gonna have to get in line behind Pale Rider among others.

You still haven't answered my question. I'll ask again:

Are you allowed to agree with someone at any point in time who you normally disagree with? You seem to be saying no.

You could not refute what Paul Ryan said whatsoever, so instead you attack me. I love it.

By the way, are you still pretending that you're any different than what you were preaching about a couple weeks ago? I see you still haven't changed your avatar.

Ryan was wrong. Why would I agree with an incorrect position. And your question to me proves my point. You quote him because it serves "your" point. Has nothing to do with him being right or wrong in reality. It suits your current position so you will use it, despite the fact that you guys have labeled him a liar.

And my avatar perfectly describes the thinking process of a progressive leftist. Yours on the other hand describes the dream of any small child, to play with Elmo. Grow up

Ps. Why do you keep telling me you've been here a long time? Need a wizzo button to go with your Elmo toy?

 

[Oddball]

The leftists are the NEW party of *NO*.

They want to continue to spend this country further into financial oblivion, and that's all there is to it. Their messiah has spoken, "give me a blank check to spend as much as I want, or I won't sign shit." So the leftists are in full lock step with their master, their god, their messiah... the boy king with zero experience.

I guess the $4T in cuts proposed by the President went right by you....

Just keep being a good little repug drone and blathering all the bullshit they brainwashed you with.

Those fake "cuts" were back-loaded until he was loooong out of office, virtually assuring that they would never materialize.

Pure cowardice.

 

[Trajan]

your you tube was Uploaded by ThinkProgress6 on Jul 14, 2011


the NY Times disagrees with Ryan....

Debt-Ceiling Deadline Might Not Really Be August 2

By National Journal staff
Updated: July 27, 2011 | 2:44 p.m.


The August 2 debt-ceiling deadline might not be as firm as the White House has insisted it is.

The New York Times reports that the date after which the U.S. will be unable to pay its bills may, in fact, be August 10. How so?

Even though the Treasury will not be statutorily permitted to borrow more to pay its bills on August 2, the federal government would have enough cash on hand to pay debts until August 10, according to estimates from Wall Street banks and a Washington research organization, The Times says.

more at-
Debt-Ceiling Deadline Might Not Really Be August 2 - National Journal staff - NationalJournal.com

Are you trying to say the clip I linked was false? If so, feel free to provide evidence otherwise.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/27/us/politics/27date.html?_r=1

From your own link:

The government will exhaust its ability to borrow more money on Aug. 2, which is equivalent to maxing out a credit card. But there still will be cash in the federal wallet.

Some Republicans have expressed skepticism about the Aug. 2 deadline, describing it as an artificial line drawn by the Obama administration for political reasons. Analysts emphasize, however, that the deadline is real; it’s just the date that is inexact.

Also this from your link:

Analysts also said that all of the estimates, including those from Treasury, were necessarily inexact, because they relied on variables like incoming tax payments. That means each passing day without a deal increases the risk that money will run out.

All told, the government plans to borrow almost $500 billion in August. If interest rates climb by even a tenth of a percentage point, the annual cost would rise by $500 million.

It's not worth risking even a single day.

*sigh*....

no, the operative message in that quote was Uploaded by ThinkProgress6 on Jul 14, 2011


the nat journ./ NY Times article was dated Jul 27....

and this-

Analysts emphasize, however, that the deadline is real; it’s just the date that is inexact.


and? do we really need to parse that statement? seriously?