The Myth of the U.N. Creation of Israel

[Divine Wind]

No one won anything. They continually fight over who is going to get what.

True. In war, there never really is a pure win. Mostly it's a matter of who loses less. Still, the antagonists in this conflict are those who are seeking to destroy Israel. Israel's choices are to either capitulate and die or fight back.

 

[dilloduck]

My amerkan "friend" whilst assiduously attempting to re-write history, misses the point. If the Arab League had not invaded the former British Mandate in Palestine...there would have been no military "nakba" for the Arabs. Najb would NOT have become Sderot and Israel would have been 50% smaller.

As a former IDF officer and graduate of the US War College at Fort Carlisle, I can affirm to you ....that constitutes a military defeat of five Arab armies. Not one dunam of Israeli land was lost then...in "56" , "67" or Yom Kippur. That Arabs can not say the same.

Here endth the lesson

You neglect to mention the Zionist attacks against the British Mandate.

 

[P F Tinmore]

My amerkan "friend" whilst assiduously attempting to re-write history, misses the point. If the Arab League had not invaded the former British Mandate in Palestine...there would have been no military "nakba" for the Arabs. Najb would NOT have become Sderot and Israel would have been 50% smaller.

As a former IDF officer and graduate of the US War College at Fort Carlisle, I can affirm to you ....that constitutes a military defeat of five Arab armies. Not one dunam of Israeli land was lost then...in "56" , "67" or Yom Kippur. That Arabs can not say the same.

Here endth the lesson

My Canadian friend, Israel's military attacked Najd before any Arab country entered Palestine. Israel had already expelled about 300,000 Palestinian Muslims and Christians from their homes and destroyed hundreds of villages before the start of the 1948 war.

 

[dilloduck]

No one won anything. They continually fight over who is going to get what.

True. In war, there never really is a pure win. Mostly it's a matter of who loses less. Still, the antagonists in this conflict are those who are seeking to destroy Israel. Israel's choices are to either capitulate and die or fight back.

This is what we are encouraged to believe by zionist propaganda. There are many who seek a fair settlement and are willing to live next to Israel in peace. They are having a bitter fight over what both factions can agree to as "fair". The Arabs choice is to capitulate or fight back also.

 

[Divine Wind]

No one won anything. They continually fight over who is going to get what.

True. In war, there never really is a pure win. Mostly it's a matter of who loses less. Still, the antagonists in this conflict are those who are seeking to destroy Israel. Israel's choices are to either capitulate and die or fight back.

This is what we are encouraged to believe by zionist propaganda. There are many who seek a fair settlement and are willing to live next to Israel in peace. They are having a bitter fight over what both factions can agree to as "fair". The Arabs choice is to capitulate or fight back also.

Which Arab nations are you accusing Israel of attacking, forcing them to defend themselves?

 

[Seren]

Two things: Haganah did NOT attack Najb before the Arab League invasion of the Mandate. And the "Zionists attacked the British administrationof the Mandate to drive then out and to the UN....and we succeeded.

 

[dilloduck]

True. In war, there never really is a pure win. Mostly it's a matter of who loses less. Still, the antagonists in this conflict are those who are seeking to destroy Israel. Israel's choices are to either capitulate and die or fight back.

This is what we are encouraged to believe by zionist propaganda. There are many who seek a fair settlement and are willing to live next to Israel in peace. They are having a bitter fight over what both factions can agree to as "fair". The Arabs choice is to capitulate or fight back also.

Which Arab nations are you accusing Israel of attacking, forcing them to defend themselves?

Arab people---not Arab nations.

 

[dilloduck]

Two things: Haganah did NOT attack Najb before the Arab League invasion of the Mandate. And the "Zionists attacked the British administrationof the Mandate to drive then out and to the UN....and we succeeded.

Yes and the British basically said "to hell with all of you" and left you to fight among yourselves. The rest of the world should have stayed out of it.

 

[P F Tinmore]

True. In war, there never really is a pure win. Mostly it's a matter of who loses less. Still, the antagonists in this conflict are those who are seeking to destroy Israel. Israel's choices are to either capitulate and die or fight back.

This is what we are encouraged to believe by zionist propaganda. There are many who seek a fair settlement and are willing to live next to Israel in peace. They are having a bitter fight over what both factions can agree to as "fair". The Arabs choice is to capitulate or fight back also.

Which Arab nations are you accusing Israel of attacking, forcing them to defend themselves?

The Zionists went to Palestine with the stated goal of taking over their country. The Palestinians have been defending themselves from this invasion for a hundred years.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Two things: Haganah did NOT attack Najb before the Arab League invasion of the Mandate. And the "Zionists attacked the British administrationof the Mandate to drive then out and to the UN....and we succeeded.

Najd was one of the hundreds of villages Israel cleansed of its inhabitants before the war. May 13th would be the exact date.

 

[Divine Wind]

The Zionists went to Palestine with the stated goal of taking over their country. The Palestinians have been defending themselves from this invasion for a hundred years.

1) "Zionists" is often used as code for "fucking Jews" by anti-Semites.

2) The Palestinians were squatters.
A Definition of Zionism

Zionism, the national movement for the return of the Jewish people to their homeland and the resumption of Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel, advocated, from its inception, tangible as well as spiritual aims.