the MYTH of the two party system

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    Bush and Pelosi are both totally corrupt Zionist puppets.

    AP - Mon Nov 13, 1:08 PM ET
    WASHINGTON - President Bush, responding to concerns Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert brought to the White House, called on Monday for worldwide isolation of Iran until it "gives up its nuclear ambitions."

    The risk to the world extends beyond Israel and the Middle East, Bush said in Oval Office remarks to reporters after meeting with Olmert for an hour. The United States and Israel say they believe Iran is working on nuclear weapons, although Tehran says its work on the technology is aimed only at producing energy.

    "Iran's nuclear ambitions are not in the world's interest," Bush said. "If Iran had nuclear weapons it would be terribly destabilizing."


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    what presents more of a disinterest for the people of the united states, is that the incoming majority leader is also a zionist tool: link

    text:

    November 8, 2006

    WASHINGTON, Nov. 8 (JTA) - Before a packed meeting of the American
    Israel Public Affairs Committee three years ago, U.S. Rep. Nancy Pelosi
    (D-Calif.) connected her political support for the Jewish state with her
    personal life.

    "My daughter is Catholic. My son-in-law is Jewish," she said. "Last week
    I celebrated my birthday and my grandchildren - ages 4 and 6 - called to
    sing 'Happy Birthday.' And the surprise, the real gift, was that they
    sang it in Hebrew."

    Now that the Democrats have taken control of the U.S. House of
    Representatives, the party is expected to install Pelosi, 66, as
    speaker, making her the first woman to hold the position that is two
    heartbeats away from the presidency.

    Political observers say it's no surprise that the congresswoman from San
    Francisco considers herself close to the Jews.

    The daughter of Thomas D'Alesandro Jr., a former mayor of Baltimore,
    Pelosi grew up in a Democratic family with Jewish neighbors and friends.

    "She likes to say that, growing up in Baltimore, she went to a bar or
    bat mitzvah every Saturday," Amy Friedkin, a former president of AIPAC
    and a friend of Pelosi's for 25 years, wrote in an e-mail message to
    JTA.

    Friedkin noted that there's even a soccer field in the Haifa area of
    Israel named after the lawmaker's family.

    While the Republicans had campaigned partly on the premise that support
    for Israel among Democrats has waned, exit polls from Tuesday's voting
    show that Democrats won an overwhelming majority of the Jewish vote.

    With Pelosi as speaker, Jewish activists and officials are confident
    that the U.S. Congress will remain strongly pro-Israel.

    "I've heard her say numerous times that the single greatest achievement
    of the 20th century" was the founding of the modern state of Israel,
    Friedkin wrote. "She has been a great friend of the U.S.-Israel
    relationship during her entire time in Congress and is deeply committed
    to strengthening that relationship."

    Sam Lauter, a pro-Israel activist in San Francisco, has known Pelosi for
    nearly 40 years. He was 5 years old when the Pelosis moved into his San
    Francisco neighborhood, he recalls. The two families lived on the same
    street.

    "She's one of the classiest," most "straightforward people you could
    ever meet," Lauter said. "She's incredibly loyal."

    Lauter said the Pelosis used to attend the first night of the Passover
    seder at his parents' house.

    "As far as the Jewish community is concerned, she feels our issues in
    her soul," he said.

    To illustrate his point, Lauter told a Pelosi story that has become
    almost legendary in the Jewish community.

    At an AIPAC members luncheon in San Francisco right after the Sept. 11
    terror attacks, Pelosi was speaking when an alarm sounded.

    "Everybody started getting nervous, scrambling toward the door," Lauter
    recalled. One person, though, was reading the words of Hatikvah, the
    Israeli national anthem, above the din. It was Pelosi.

    "It actually calmed the crowd," Lauter said. "You could see people
    actually smiling, saying 'Wow.' "

    This "wasn't something done purposefully to show everyone that Nancy
    Pelosi supports the Jewish community," he said. It "actually came from
    inside her."

    Lauter and others say Pelosi will have to draw on that inner strength as
    speaker, since Lauter predicted that she will hear from those in the
    Jewish community who argue that Democrats no longer support Israel the
    way they used to.

    Some Republicans, in fact, questioned Pelosi's support for Israel this
    summer. The congresswoman ended up removing her name as a co-sponsor
    from a House resolution supporting the Jewish state during its war with
    Hezbollah because it did not address the protection of civilians.

    While Pelosi's aides said she was not going to lend her name to a
    resolution that did not contain a word she had written, Republicans
    criticized the move.

    "It highlights a real wave within the Democratic Party that wants a more
    'evenhanded' approach on these issues, and that wants to view Israel
    through the same prism as we do Hezbollah," Matt Brooks, the executive
    director of the Republican Jewish Coalition, said at the time. "Watering
    down is not acceptable right now."

    Brooks could not be reached for comment this week.

    For his part, Lauter believes the argument about the Democrats and
    Pelosi is false.

    For instance, he noted Pelosi's quick response to former President
    Carter's description of Israel's settlement policies as "apartheid" in a
    forthcoming book.

    Pelosi publicly announced that Carter does not speak for the Democratic
    Party on Israel.

    Rabbi Doug Kahn, director of the Jewish Community Relations Council in
    San Francisco, also applauded Pelosi's repudiation of Carter's position.

    He has known Pelosi since she started representing his district in 1987.
    Kahn said his group has always had an excellent working relationship
    with her. And he praised her passion for issues that relate to equal
    opportunity, social justice and peace.

    Kahn, echoing Lauter's point, said that Pelosi, coming from a city with
    such a liberal political reputation, will face challenges from the
    liberal segments of the Democratic Party that have criticized Israeli
    policies.

    But he is confident that Pelosi, as speaker, will be effective in
    persuading people with a broad range of views on the Middle East, the
    importance of maintaining bipartisan support for Israel.

    When it comes to Israel, "she truly gets it," said Matt Dorf, a
    consultant to the Democratic National Committee. She gets "Israel's
    value and asset to U.S. security" and its "importance as the only
    democracy in the Middle East."

    Jewish organizational officials also commend Pelosi's record on Jewish
    communal issues.

    William Daroff, vice president for public policy for the United Jewish
    Communities, the federation system's umbrella group and a Republican
    himself, said the lawmaker has helped ensure federal funding of Jewish
    family service agencies and Jewish hospitals and has supported
    government programs and policies that Jewish organizations value, such
    as Medicare and Medicaid.

    He also noted that Reva Price, Pelosi's liaison to the Jewish community
    for a year and a half, came from the Jewish Council for Public Affairs,
    the umbrella group of local community relations councils.

    Bringing on board such an insider was "really a masterful stroke,"
    Daroff said.

    Price, he added, has done a wonderful job of playing "traffic cop" with
    Jewish organizations and in making sure that Pelosi's agenda is in tune
    with that of the Jewish community.

    She's been "a real champion of making sure the Jewish community is well
    served," Daroff said of the lawmaker. "I'm sure she'll continue to be a
    champion."


    until the people of the united states throws israel out of our government, there will NEVER be peace on this planet.
     
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    No, until every nation in the world is free and and people are willing to stand up to evil, we wont have peace in this world.

    Us leaving Israel wont create peace. It will simply give Islamic extremists more power to commit the genocide they continually promise.
     
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    israel needs to be dissolved, and the jewish people need to be assimilated into the global societies, as they were before, and zionism is the root cause for the destability in the middle east.

    here's a rabbi laying it out in pretty clear terms:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5JqRUJ3A3w[/ame]

    more on the history of zionists and the arabs, an exhaustive political and world event history log, the first part is here to watch with 2 and 3, all free to view:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3AjnmDWDC8[/ame]

    parts two and three are on the right, i encourage all americans to watch this and challenge it.

    the zionist state is constantly harassing its borders, and has been expanding its dominion over the middle east since its formation in 1948. they have been oppressing arabs since world war I, and have had no aversion to sending american people to die for their interests. this has been well documented, and i can post pages upon pages of references if you doubt it.

    until israel is held accountable for atrocities such as the massacre of women and children in Palestine on November 8, 2006, and america wakes up and throws the zionists out of her government, terrorism WILL NEVER STOP.
     
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    Pretty scary stuff. I've said it many times before, both Neocons and Dems alike give blind support to Israel, under the false pretense that they are some sort of staunch ally that should they fall, we would too.

    I guess practicing apartheid in a "democracy" is A-OK with Nancy and the Dems, just as much as it was with Bush and the neocons.

    Let the plundering of our tax dollars continue, all for the sake of a foreign military.

    This all just confirms my greatest fear: when push comes to shove and Israel starts getting waxed the Dems won't hesitate to send US troops to fight Israel's Zionist cause.

    As RWA would say, the NWO is here. :mad:
     
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    Always expanding its borders? WTF are you talking about? Israel fights when they are attacked First. It has always done that. It hasnt changed at all.

    If the Palestinian and other arab nations surrounding Israel stopped attacking them they wouldnt have any problem with them.
     
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    Just because both parties agree on one thing doesn't make em one party.
     
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    the fact that the zionists pay off both sides to cater to israel's interests, makes them one party, yes.

    fact: the israelis soldiers in lebanon were captured INSIDE of lebanon before the aggression broke out.

    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/israeli_solders.html

    gaza strip is a PRISON

    while i don't agree with all of what this website says, it's got some pretty interesting points:

    ***WARNING GRAPHIC IMAGES OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN KILLED BY IDF ON THIS LINK***
    http://www.jewwatch.com

    fact: israel is CONSTANTLY harassing, killing arabs around her borders. not to mention all the people abducted and being tortured in israel's dungeons.

    if you want the history of israel attacking arabs, and vice versa, i suggest you watch those movies i posted, so you can get all the FACTS that are well documented.

    here's another link, though it's made my a leftist loon that i don't totally agree with, he's done an amazing amount of research and all his claims about zionism are true and correct, and well footnoted.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1585562142333161866&q=stranger+than+fiction&hl=en

    if you still don't believe me, avatar... tell us all here what exactly happened to the USS Liberty?

    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ussliberty.html

    or you can google uss liberty, where there are plenty of vets and their surviving families still pissed as all hell (as they should be) that to date, congress has NEVER ONCE investigated this attack.
     
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