The Myth of Bad Republican Candidates

The irony of those words is very amusing when you consider every Democrat Presidential candidate starting with Carter. Kerry, Gore, Obama, and the rest had to pass for something they weren't.

Kerry the war hero
Gore the intelligent statesman
Obama the transformational answer to all our problems
Clinton the moderate
Carter the nice guy
Ducaccus the military leader
McGovern..........can't think of anything here. He was up front about his pacifism

McGovern was one of the last old school Dems, people you could really respect, even if you didnt agree with them. Look at the candidates in 1968: Humphrey, Muskie, McGovern, Kennedy. Look at what the Democratic Party is now: Obama, Pelosi, Frank, Reid. Quite a come down.

"McGovern..........can't think of anything here. He was up front about his pacifism"

Lt. George McGovern was a pilot of a B-24 and flew 35 missions against the Germans during WW II. Of course you can't think, that's obvious.

Wow, I'll look into that.

Since McGovern was running before the internet you need to cut me some slack.

At any rate, he probably wouldn't want toi be accused of being a warmonger by his base, so I can see why he didn't focus on that. Wasn't Vietnam an embarassment then?

I'm just saying......
 
no really a myth. they all have many demons, which is why they're being called less than ideal candidates.

newt = skeletons
romney = inconsistencies on a million issues
cain = crazy talk (999) as opined on by most economists, also his harrassment claims
bachman = batshit crazy and horrendous on history
perry = comes off as clueless
paul - decent, but yall hate his foreign policy
santorum - wants to be in my bedroom! ewwey.
 
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January 11, 2012
The Myth of Bad Republican Candidates
By Selwyn Duke

Repeat a big Democrat talking point often enough, and it becomes the truth. There is a certain liberal narrative that has recently filtered down to many independents and even some conservatives: the idea that the current crop of Republican candidates is weak, wanting, and worrisome.
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Whoa, thats some original thinking there. I never thought they would blame the liberals for republican dissatifaction with their own field of canidates. Never saw that one coming :doubt:

No, the media could never be accused of having anything to do with GOP voter's dissatifaction.

And dissatifaction with GOP voters just couldnt happen unless the media made them unhappy :thup: Couldnt be "real" dissatifaction...no sir re
 
Cain/bad
Newt/so bad it hurts
Paul/every circus needs a clown
Perry/severely unprepared

Myth?

Not to be a whiner, but when you have debates where a majority of the moderators support Obama or are Democrat shills....they tend to want to cast Republicans in a less than flattering light.

Simply asking the right questions can do a lot of damage.

Obama will never be asked questions with mallicious intent. Even Bill O'Reilly thinks he's cool.
 
Whoa, thats some original thinking there. I never thought they would blame the liberals for republican dissatifaction with their own field of canidates. Never saw that one coming :doubt:

No, the media could never be accused of having anything to do with GOP voter's dissatifaction.

And dissatifaction with GOP voters just couldnt happen unless the media made them unhappy :thup: Couldnt be "real" dissatifaction...no sir re

I'm sure it's real, just cleverly suggested and fostered by representatives of the Obama media. Even Rush has been guilty of it. Information is available out there that can be twisted and spun. It depends on how active your imagination is.

Did you know Jesus cost people jobs?

He was caught healing people without a lisense costing health care professionals their jobs. He was actually feeding the poor and the hungry with bread and fish that came from God knows where, bypassing local bakers and fishermen forcing them into near bankruptcy. He trashed venders at the steps of the temple scattering their money and destroying their goods in the process.

What an evil conservative Jesus was.....telling us that the poor will always be with us.
 
I've said this before.

If the name Cass Sunstein sounds familiar you would not be surprised to that he is a member of the Obama Administration.

An availability cascade is a self-reinforcing cycle that explains the development of certain kinds of collective beliefs. A novel idea or insight, usually one that seems to explain a complex process in a simple or straightforward manner, gains rapid currency in the popular discourse by its very simplicity and by its apparent insightfulness. Its rising popularity triggers a chain reaction within the social network: individuals adopt the new insight because other people within the network have adopted it, and on its face it seems plausible. The reason for this increased use and popularity of the new idea involves both the availability of the previously obscure term or idea, and the need of individuals using the term or idea to appear to be current with the stated beliefs and ideas of others, regardless of whether they in fact fully believe in the idea that they are expressing. Their need for social acceptance, and the apparent sophistication of the new insight, overwhelm their critical thinking.

The idea of the availability cascade was first developed by Timur Kuran and Cass Sunstein, building upon the concept of information cascades and on the availability bias as identified by Daniel Kahneman and Amos Tversky.
Availability cascade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Cass R. Sunstein (born September 21, 1954) is an American legal scholar, particularly in the fields of constitutional law, administrative law, environmental law, and law and behavioral economics, who currently is the Administrator of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs in the Obama administration. For 27 years, Sunstein taught at the University of Chicago Law School,[1] where he continues to teach as the Harry Kalven Visiting Professor. Sunstein is currently Professor of Law at Harvard Law School, where he is on leave while working in the Obama administration.

Cass Sunstein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is how Democrats pulled the wool over our eyes with respect to Global Warming, TARP, the Stimulus Bill, Health Care Reform, etc,.

It may have had something to do with the housing crash and the banking crisis.

If you want one crisis after another just give Obama 4 more years. It's a given.

LOL. Mud, nobody needs to pull the wool over your eyes. You are so willfully ignorant and proud of it that you are completely blind to reality.

There are only two people in this present field that are even reasonably sane and rational. And one of those is backpedaling on all that he has ever done that is good in order to pander to ignoramouses like you. The other is much more honest, and has not a chance of a snowball in hell in the present GOP.
 
I've said this before.

If the name Cass Sunstein sounds familiar you would not be surprised to that he is a member of the Obama Administration.

An availability cascade is a self-reinforcing cycle that explains the development of certain kinds of collective beliefs. A novel idea or insight, usually one that seems to explain a complex process in a simple or straightforward manner, gains rapid currency in the popular discourse by its very simplicity and by its apparent insightfulness. Its rising popularity triggers a chain reaction within the social network: individuals adopt the new insight because other people within the network have adopted it, and on its face it seems plausible. The reason for this increased use and popularity of the new idea involves both the availability of the previously obscure term or idea, and the need of individuals using the term or idea to appear to be current with the stated beliefs and ideas of others, regardless of whether they in fact fully believe in the idea that they are expressing. Their need for social acceptance, and the apparent sophistication of the new insight, overwhelm their critical thinking.

The idea of the availability cascade was first developed by Timur Kuran and Cass Sunstein, building upon the concept of information cascades and on the availability bias as identified by Daniel Kahneman and Amos Tversky.
Availability cascade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

220px-Sunstein.jpg


Cass R. Sunstein (born September 21, 1954) is an American legal scholar, particularly in the fields of constitutional law, administrative law, environmental law, and law and behavioral economics, who currently is the Administrator of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs in the Obama administration. For 27 years, Sunstein taught at the University of Chicago Law School,[1] where he continues to teach as the Harry Kalven Visiting Professor. Sunstein is currently Professor of Law at Harvard Law School, where he is on leave while working in the Obama administration.

Cass Sunstein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is how Democrats pulled the wool over our eyes with respect to Global Warming, TARP, the Stimulus Bill, Health Care Reform, etc,.

It may have had something to do with the housing crash and the banking crisis.

If you want one crisis after another just give Obama 4 more years. It's a given.

LOL. Mud, nobody needs to pull the wool over your eyes. You are so willfully ignorant and proud of it that you are completely blind to reality.

There are only two people in this present field that are even reasonably sane and rational. And one of those is backpedaling on all that he has ever done that is good in order to pander to ignoramouses like you. The other is much more honest, and has not a chance of a snowball in hell in the present GOP.

Everybody has warts.

Obama has a ton of them.

I just compare him to the GOP field and regardless how flawed they are almost every one of them would make a better President. That is an undeniable fact. Obama is dangerous, lazy, irresponsible, wasteful, vindictive, malicious, all of that. I'm not happy with the way Newt is acting today, with the way Perry is acting. Santorum is acting decent where as Newt is giving in to anger.

They are playing the same game as your hero. Maybe not sending armies of lawyers after anyone that pisses them off, but it's becoming an embarrassment.

You wanted this, so now you got it. Happy? Now, in what way is all of this gonna fix the economy. New first time unemployment aps shot back up last week. The media will of course ignore this.
 
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Republicans are voting for the moderate Romney for electability reasons. After the 2008 election, conservatives told us McCain didn't get elected because he was a moderate.

Who's right?

Is Romney considered more electable because he's a moderate, or because there is no quality conservative in the race?

Even though you'e stupid you make a good point. Conservatives have not been able to field a credible candidate in two election cycles. What does this say about the state of conservatism?

That they need to return from their alternate universe, and address the reality that we American Citizens face on a daily basis.

The 'Conservatives' present demonazation of science and scientists is just one example. Glaciers, ice caps, and global temps don't listen to political rhetoric. They respond to the laws of physics, in spite of the denial of those laws by the right wingnuts.

Flap yap all you want about equality of oppertunity. We on the factory floor have observed how that has worked for the last 30 years as the continued redistribution of wealth from the working poor and the middle class to the wealthy has taken place. And people like you wish to increase the rate of that redistribution.

We have witnessed the waste of the lives of over 4500 of our sons and daughters for a foreign war that nearly destroyed our economy. We spent on bombs and have let our bridges fall down. Our water systems for our metropolitan areas are in terrible states of repair. But you people would once again embark on these adventures without good reason. And continue to let our nation fall into disrepare.

If you 'Conservatives' wish to have a real candidate, get back to conservative principles, instead of bullshit that would have people like Buckley and Goldwater telling you that you are completely around the bend.
 
These days anyone can be torched.

Reveal something in their past that is a surprise and the candidate doesn't walk on water anymore.

I read "Killing Lincoln" and using that information alone I could make a convincing case that our 16th President was disorganized and ran a White House that was in constant turmoil. People were often sleeping in the hallways waiting to petition the President. Members of his administration were constantly intoxicated. His VP was a prime example.

The way the press and the media holds sway over political discourse Obama got into the White House with no leadership experience and no record of accomplishment. His image of being a great speaker and a nice guy is enough to keep plenty of people supporting him, even though he's nothing but trouble in real life. This is why his records have been sealed under court order and his past practically erased. Yet any one of the GOP candidates could mop the floor with him if they would just compare resumes.

None of the GOP candidates has anything close to the resume of President Obama

Thank Christ for that!!!! LMAO

I agree, the republicans are definitely going with their second string. If they had run their top candidates, Obama would be vulnerable. But with the economy improving, even Romney is just a sacrificial lamb
 
Cain/bad
Newt/so bad it hurts
Paul/every circus needs a clown
Perry/severely unprepared

Myth?

Not to be a whiner, but when you have debates where a majority of the moderators support Obama or are Democrat shills....they tend to want to cast Republicans in a less than flattering light.

Simply asking the right questions can do a lot of damage.

Obama will never be asked questions with mallicious intent. Even Bill O'Reilly thinks he's cool.

Debates have been held on all networks with moderators at both ends of the political spectrum. Republican candidates still come off as second rate
 
Republicans are voting for the moderate Romney for electability reasons. After the 2008 election, conservatives told us McCain didn't get elected because he was a moderate.

Who's right?

Is Romney considered more electable because he's a moderate, or because there is no quality conservative in the race?

Even though you'e stupid you make a good point. Conservatives have not been able to field a credible candidate in two election cycles. What does this say about the state of conservatism?

That they need to return from their alternate universe, and address the reality that we American Citizens face on a daily basis.

The 'Conservatives' present demonazation of science and scientists is just one example. Glaciers, ice caps, and global temps don't listen to political rhetoric. They respond to the laws of physics, in spite of the denial of those laws by the right wingnuts.

Flap yap all you want about equality of oppertunity. We on the factory floor have observed how that has worked for the last 30 years as the continued redistribution of wealth from the working poor and the middle class to the wealthy has taken place. And people like you wish to increase the rate of that redistribution.

We have witnessed the waste of the lives of over 4500 of our sons and daughters for a foreign war that nearly destroyed our economy. We spent on bombs and have let our bridges fall down. Our water systems for our metropolitan areas are in terrible states of repair. But you people would once again embark on these adventures without good reason. And continue to let our nation fall into disrepare.

If you 'Conservatives' wish to have a real candidate, get back to conservative principles, instead of bullshit that would have people like Buckley and Goldwater telling you that you are completely around the bend.

When one can get through the system maybe I'll vote for em.

You seem to think I should just not bother because I can't get a perfect candidate.

You settlled for a less than perfect candidate if you voted for the current WH resident.

I'd rather vote for someone that doesn't piss me off every time he starts lying again, at least someone I can respect warts and all.
 
no really a myth. they all have many demons, which is why they're being called less than ideal candidates.

newt = skeletons
romney = inconsistencies on a million issues
cain = crazy talk (999) as opined on by most economists, also his harrassment claims
bachman = batshit crazy and horrendous on history
perry = comes off as clueless
paul - decent, but yall hate his foreign policy
santorum - wants to be in my bedroom! ewwey.

Bill Richardson-ethics issues
Hilalry Clinton-Rose Law firm records, commodities trades
Dennis Kucinich-Batshit crazy
Joe Biden-Talk about clueless
John Edwards-Cheated on his cancer-stricken wife, fathered a love child
Barack Obama-No relevant experience, Tony Rezko, Voted present.

Yeah. The GOP is filled with disappointing candidates. If the press had subjected the Dems to the same treatment in 2008 as they are to the GOP today McCain would probably be president.
 
no really a myth. they all have many demons, which is why they're being called less than ideal candidates.

newt = skeletons
romney = inconsistencies on a million issues
cain = crazy talk (999) as opined on by most economists, also his harrassment claims
bachman = batshit crazy and horrendous on history
perry = comes off as clueless
paul - decent, but yall hate his foreign policy
santorum - wants to be in my bedroom! ewwey.

Bill Richardson-ethics issues
Hilalry Clinton-Rose Law firm records, commodities trades
Dennis Kucinich-Batshit crazy
Joe Biden-Talk about clueless
John Edwards-Cheated on his cancer-stricken wife, fathered a love child
Barack Obama-No relevant experience, Tony Rezko, Voted present.

Yeah. The GOP is filled with disappointing candidates. If the press had subjected the Dems to the same treatment in 2008 as they are to the GOP today McCain would probably be president.

This aint a thread about Dem. candidates, make your own.
 
no really a myth. they all have many demons, which is why they're being called less than ideal candidates.

newt = skeletons
romney = inconsistencies on a million issues
cain = crazy talk (999) as opined on by most economists, also his harrassment claims
bachman = batshit crazy and horrendous on history
perry = comes off as clueless
paul - decent, but yall hate his foreign policy
santorum - wants to be in my bedroom! ewwey.

Bill Richardson-ethics issues
Hilalry Clinton-Rose Law firm records, commodities trades
Dennis Kucinich-Batshit crazy
Joe Biden-Talk about clueless
John Edwards-Cheated on his cancer-stricken wife, fathered a love child
Barack Obama-No relevant experience, Tony Rezko, Voted present.

Yeah. The GOP is filled with disappointing candidates. If the press had subjected the Dems to the same treatment in 2008 as they are to the GOP today McCain would probably be president.

This aint a thread about Dem. candidates, make your own.

Pathetic attempt at deflection.
The point is any candidate will look like dogshit if you subject him to enough criticism. The Dems were not subjected to such criticism. But should have been.
That's why the GOP looks bad. But it is a myth.
 
Cain/bad
Newt/so bad it hurts
Paul/every circus needs a clown
Perry/severely unprepared

Myth?

Not to be a whiner, but when you have debates where a majority of the moderators support Obama or are Democrat shills....they tend to want to cast Republicans in a less than flattering light.

Simply asking the right questions can do a lot of damage.

Obama will never be asked questions with mallicious intent. Even Bill O'Reilly thinks he's cool.

Debates have been held on all networks with moderators at both ends of the political spectrum. Republican candidates still come off as second rate

By Journalists
 
Cain/bad
Newt/so bad it hurts
Paul/every circus needs a clown
Perry/severely unprepared

Myth?

Not to be a whiner, but when you have debates where a majority of the moderators support Obama or are Democrat shills....they tend to want to cast Republicans in a less than flattering light.

Simply asking the right questions can do a lot of damage.

Obama will never be asked questions with mallicious intent. Even Bill O'Reilly thinks he's cool.
i bet you where the kid who before a game started would make excuses in case you lost afterwords.

This is you, right now, and sadly a well used tactic of the right. Does it ever get old being the perpetual victim?

Does it get old being the perpetual moron?
 
No, the media could never be accused of having anything to do with GOP voter's dissatifaction.

And dissatifaction with GOP voters just couldnt happen unless the media made them unhappy :thup: Couldnt be "real" dissatifaction...no sir re

I'm sure it's real, just cleverly suggested and fostered by representatives of the Obama media.

And without any proof you've discovered this groundbreaking evidence. Link or belief?
Even Rush has been guilty of it. Information is available out there that can be twisted and spun. It depends on how active your imagination is.

Oh, you are definetly proof of that sparky

Did you know Jesus cost people jobs?

He was caught healing people without a lisense costing health care professionals their jobs. He was actually feeding the poor and the hungry with bread and fish that came from God knows where, bypassing local bakers and fishermen forcing them into near bankruptcy. He trashed venders at the steps of the temple scattering their money and destroying their goods in the process.

What an evil conservative Jesus was.....telling us that the poor will always be with us.

Wow that was really bad...Tell me more about the problems of an active imagination.
 

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