The Myth of Bad Republican Candidates

[JoeB131]

I don't think Perry ever blamed anyone but himself.

He could have been poorly prepared by his handlers. He may have been overconfident. His last few debates have been pretty decent, but it's way too late now. He had his chance and blew it. Maybe if he wants to try again he can do a bit more prep work and not have the same thing happen. However, I think once Romney gets in and shows what he can do Perry won't have a chance.

Romney's going to lose by a huge margin. seriously, I have not talked to one Obama supporter who has told me he can't wait to vote for Romney. I've talked to a lot of McCain supporters (myself included) who will never vote for this guy because of his business practices, flip-flops and crazy religion.

If you look at Romney and Obama you'll discover that it's a battle between an accomplished workaholic and a smooth bullshit artist. Obama has never worked hard while he's getting paid, never. It takes work to make it through college, much less Harvard, but I don't see anything to prove to me that Obama has the energy level to handle the challenges that he faces. He has to take constant breaks to keep from pulling his hair out. He simply delegates his responsibilities to his underlings and when they fuck up he never accepts responsibility.

I see a different view. I see two guys who are educated and gifted. One was born with every advantage, the other was born into a world where he was a second class citizen due to his race. They both attended good colleges. Obama dedicated himself to public service, Romney dedicated himself to getting richer on the backs of working folks. Guess which one people will find more admirable.

I don't see this in Romney. Romney is a good man. He gave up two years of his life to help people on a mission. Not every Mormon volunteers for a mission. Time after time the man has shown to be compassionate. They'll tear him down for changing his stance on issues and for being a successful capitalist.

When Romney was off annoying French people (who were really doing just fine without the Book of Mormon, thank you very much), other young men his age like John Kerry and John McCain were off in Vietnam. Romney, son of a governor, was able to avoid selective service quite deftly.

And those fired AmPad workers would like to have a word with you about how he is "compassionate".

I think Obama is the anti-capitalist. His entire campaign is geared toward bringing down the engine that runs our economy. If he wins the United States will drop down several notches in the world. Europe will make jokes about how the once powerful America was brought down by their own President. Then the reality that America won't be there to prop them up anymore will hit them squarely in the face.

If Obama is anti-Capitalist, then why are big banks and brokerages amongst his biggest donors? We are going down, to be certain, but it is because of things that happened long before Obama got there. We need to turn inward and fix our own problems and stop worrying about the rest of the world. The rest of the world owes us a few weekends off, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[mudwhistle]

Mudwhistle. You are really, really jealous of our President. It is very clear.

I would never want to be somebody like him.

I don't feel envy for any President. I just feel the position he holds has such historic importance that I expect more of him than myself.

 

[mudwhistle]

I don't think Perry ever blamed anyone but himself.

He could have been poorly prepared by his handlers. He may have been overconfident. His last few debates have been pretty decent, but it's way too late now. He had his chance and blew it. Maybe if he wants to try again he can do a bit more prep work and not have the same thing happen. However, I think once Romney gets in and shows what he can do Perry won't have a chance.

Romney's going to lose by a huge margin. seriously, I have not talked to one Obama supporter who has told me he can't wait to vote for Romney. I've talked to a lot of McCain supporters (myself included) who will never vote for this guy because of his business practices, flip-flops and crazy religion.

If you look at Romney and Obama you'll discover that it's a battle between an accomplished workaholic and a smooth bullshit artist. Obama has never worked hard while he's getting paid, never. It takes work to make it through college, much less Harvard, but I don't see anything to prove to me that Obama has the energy level to handle the challenges that he faces. He has to take constant breaks to keep from pulling his hair out. He simply delegates his responsibilities to his underlings and when they fuck up he never accepts responsibility.

I see a different view. I see two guys who are educated and gifted. One was born with every advantage, the other was born into a world where he was a second class citizen due to his race. They both attended good colleges. Obama dedicated himself to public service, Romney dedicated himself to getting richer on the backs of working folks. Guess which one people will find more admirable.

I don't see this in Romney. Romney is a good man. He gave up two years of his life to help people on a mission. Not every Mormon volunteers for a mission. Time after time the man has shown to be compassionate. They'll tear him down for changing his stance on issues and for being a successful capitalist.

When Romney was off annoying French people (who were really doing just fine without the Book of Mormon, thank you very much), other young men his age like John Kerry and John McCain were off in Vietnam. Romney, son of a governor, was able to avoid selective service quite deftly.

And those fired AmPad workers would like to have a word with you about how he is "compassionate".

I think Obama is the anti-capitalist. His entire campaign is geared toward bringing down the engine that runs our economy. If he wins the United States will drop down several notches in the world. Europe will make jokes about how the once powerful America was brought down by their own President. Then the reality that America won't be there to prop them up anymore will hit them squarely in the face.

If Obama is anti-Capitalist, then why are big banks and brokerages amongst his biggest donors? We are going down, to be certain, but it is because of things that happened long before Obama got there. We need to turn inward and fix our own problems and stop worrying about the rest of the world. The rest of the world owes us a few weekends off, as far as I'm concerned.

You contradict yourself. You say Romney was privileged and Obama wasn't, but from what I see Obama went to better schools. How does that happen?

It doesn't matter who gives Obama money, his rhetoric is damaging to our economy. Personally I think he's pulling the wool over everyone by sounding like a Socialist but rubbing elbows with Fat Cats in back alleys.

 

[rightwinger]

I don't think Perry ever blamed anyone but himself.

He could have been poorly prepared by his handlers. He may have been overconfident. His last few debates have been pretty decent, but it's way too late now. He had his chance and blew it. Maybe if he wants to try again he can do a bit more prep work and not have the same thing happen. However, I think once Romney gets in and shows what he can do Perry won't have a chance.

Romney's going to lose by a huge margin. seriously, I have not talked to one Obama supporter who has told me he can't wait to vote for Romney. I've talked to a lot of McCain supporters (myself included) who will never vote for this guy because of his business practices, flip-flops and crazy religion.



I see a different view. I see two guys who are educated and gifted. One was born with every advantage, the other was born into a world where he was a second class citizen due to his race. They both attended good colleges. Obama dedicated himself to public service, Romney dedicated himself to getting richer on the backs of working folks. Guess which one people will find more admirable.



When Romney was off annoying French people (who were really doing just fine without the Book of Mormon, thank you very much), other young men his age like John Kerry and John McCain were off in Vietnam. Romney, son of a governor, was able to avoid selective service quite deftly.

And those fired AmPad workers would like to have a word with you about how he is "compassionate".

I think Obama is the anti-capitalist. His entire campaign is geared toward bringing down the engine that runs our economy. If he wins the United States will drop down several notches in the world. Europe will make jokes about how the once powerful America was brought down by their own President. Then the reality that America won't be there to prop them up anymore will hit them squarely in the face.

If Obama is anti-Capitalist, then why are big banks and brokerages amongst his biggest donors? We are going down, to be certain, but it is because of things that happened long before Obama got there. We need to turn inward and fix our own problems and stop worrying about the rest of the world. The rest of the world owes us a few weekends off, as far as I'm concerned.

You contradict yourself. You say Romney was privileged and Obama wasn't, but from what I see Obama went to better schools. How does that happen?

It doesn't matter who gives Obama money, his rhetoric is damaging to our economy. Personally I think he's pulling the wool over everyone by sounding like a Socialist but rubbing elbows with Fat Cats in back alleys.

Romneys father was a Governor and presidential contender

Nothing in Obamas background is even close to Romneys level of privleges

 

[JoeB131]

You contradict yourself. You say Romney was privileged and Obama wasn't, but from what I see Obama went to better schools. How does that happen?

Hard work. Or Affirmative Action. Take your pick. But the point is, who are people going to relate to easier, the working class kid who made good or Richie Rich?

It doesn't matter who gives Obama money, his rhetoric is damaging to our economy. Personally I think he's pulling the wool over everyone by sounding like a Socialist but rubbing elbows with Fat Cats in back alleys.

If that's the case, what are you worried about? The wealthy will still get to push you around, you should be happy about that, then?

 

[Cowman]

If you can't see that they are a shitty lineup of candidates, you have an awful sense of reality.

 

[Care4all]

Obama- national debt increased $5,000,000,000+. Foreign policy, the world is more hostile towards Americans than any time in history (argueably). American economy, destroyed. Energy availibility, down. Energy prices, increasing and about to go higher because of the EPA. Taxpayers, humiliated and insulted. Inflation, running away. Food stamps, highest number of people on food stamps under his Presidency. Poor Americans, the highest amount of poor people since the war on poverty. His attorney general, selectively applies the law. The President, ignores his oath of office to protect the Constitution. Credibility, zero. Integrity, zero. Leadership ability, armchair quarterback. Number one strength (skill), lecturer (that can put people to sleep in under 5 minutes)

Yes, those are some tough choices????

the trillions added to the debt, yes.

the world is NOT more hostile towards america than under President Bush.....

The American economy was destroyed under the bush reign in 2008....

Energy availability is UP....way up under president Obama reign....just look at the numbers for the truth.

Energy prices are high, agree...however they STILL have NOT reached the high price of energy reached under the bush Administration reign.

high food stamp receivers is EXPECTED with the 2008 economy crash to nearly the level of the great depression....

Same with poor people....without the 2008 CRASH AND BURN BUST, the citizens would have not gotten poorer....

please show exactly what the president has done that breaks the constitution that has not been done by every single president....

You see, I agree that times are tough under Obama reign, but I do not live in a fairy tale land or glass bubble and KNOW where all of these woes came from....which is the 2008 bank crash and the housing boom bust, which ALL OCCURRED under the Bush reign....the woes from the 2008 CRASH/BUST just don't go away because we have a new man in the whitehouse, and for people to just expect them to disappear are kidding themselves imo.

Can you go to Egypt? Can you travel easily to other ME countries? Americans are more at risk for traveling today than under Bush.

I get that you want to blame all this on "Bush", at what point is boy wonder supposed to actually perform? What has he done to make any of it "better"? His "stimulus plans" that were promised to fix the infrastructure and make shovel ready jobs went to shore up his voting union minions. The debt, seriously, you are just blowing that off when that money went to Obama's "corporate friends"? His record is poor, his character is sad. There just is not one logical reason to re-elect this man that seem bent on destroying the middle class.

blame obama for things that he has CAUSED, should not be a problem...but to blame MORE food stamp receivers and more poor under his reign is foolish and just partisan rhetoric....and more hate in the middle east towards us then under the Bush administration is downright silly....and then to say the whole world hates us more under obama then under President Bush is also being a tad blind....we were hated by many for our non provoked attack, preemptive war without cause in Iraq.....some of our allies hated us for it, let alone the middle easterners.....

Yes, the very bad economic things that happened under the Bush reign DO NOT GO AWAY....it isn't a "blame bush, blame bush, blame bush just for the sake of blaming Bush".....the biggest crash since the GREAT DEPRESSION occurred under President bush's reign as president....that DOES NOT just GO AWAY.....it doesn't just disappear Logical4....it will take decades before we get back to normal and even then, us middle class and poor Americans may NEVER see what we once had, ever again....

McCain as President would be in the same boat as obama, when it comes to the economy because the the Boom created under President Bush and the Bust that happened in 2008 did not happen in a vacuum....

you want to bitch about the health care bill....now that doesn't come from President bush...it comes from Obama....

but to blame all the added poor to our society on Obama is just plain stupid is as stupid does....imo

 

[The Rabbi]

So what did Obama do about all that?
Nothing. He has spent 3 years makng the problems worse, not better.

 

[JoeB131]

If you can't see that they are a shitty lineup of candidates, you have an awful sense of reality.

I agree. They are a shitty lineup of candidates- Including Obama.

 

[rightwinger]

If you can't see that they are a shitty lineup of candidates, you have an awful sense of reality.

I agree. They are a shitty lineup of candidates- Including Obama.

Just for reference

Is their any potential candidate out there in either party that is not shitty?

 

[rdean]

January 11, 2012
The Myth of Bad Republican Candidates
By Selwyn Duke

Repeat a big Democrat talking point often enough, and it becomes the truth. There is a certain liberal narrative that has recently filtered down to many independents and even some conservatives: the idea that the current crop of Republican candidates is weak, wanting, and worrisome. The lament is, "Hell's bells, the guy in the White House is out of his depth, but what alternatives does the GOP offer?" The idea, I suppose, is that we might as well just re-elect Barack Obama. At least he has four years of golfing, government-growing, and greenback-gobbling experience.

This characterization of the Republican field much reminds me of the gratuitous criticism of the U.S. by the hate-America-first crowd. Okay, you say America is a bad country. Compared to what? Some imaginary Utopia that will never exist? Because in the real world, the U.S. has been besting her competition for a long time.

Many repeat the statist talking point about the GOP contenders' alleged ineptitude simply because of media spin and the branding iron of repetition. Yet others do, in fact, have unrealistic expectations. They have in mind an ideal, a utopia of a politician -- a person who agrees with them on every major issue, possesses eloquence and decent looks, and has never strayed from ideological purity. And when this imaginary figure doesn't appear, they ask, "Is this the best our political class has to offer?!"

Yet to what are we comparing these candidates? And are we being mindful of Bismarck's sage observation that "[p]olitics is the art of the possible"? For even insofar as a true traditionalist's ideal candidate does exist -- and this is important to understand -- he could not win election given the current state of our culture.

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Typical right wing blather. They are a "digital" people. Only two choices for everything. They have no "nuance". Either this or that with no compromise and nothing in between.

 

[JoeB131]

If you can't see that they are a shitty lineup of candidates, you have an awful sense of reality.

I agree. They are a shitty lineup of candidates- Including Obama.

Just for reference

Is their any potential candidate out there in either party that is not shitty?

Define "not shitty".

I think Tim Pawlenty would have been awesome. He panicked too early and dropped out, and shame on him.

Mitch Daniels would have been awesome, but people would put his family through the ringer about that rough patch he and his wife had.

I've even got some nice things to say about Hillary Clinton. Never thought I'd live long enough to do that.

 

[logical4u]

the trillions added to the debt, yes.

the world is NOT more hostile towards america than under President Bush.....

The American economy was destroyed under the bush reign in 2008....

Energy availability is UP....way up under president Obama reign....just look at the numbers for the truth.

Energy prices are high, agree...however they STILL have NOT reached the high price of energy reached under the bush Administration reign.

high food stamp receivers is EXPECTED with the 2008 economy crash to nearly the level of the great depression....

Same with poor people....without the 2008 CRASH AND BURN BUST, the citizens would have not gotten poorer....

please show exactly what the president has done that breaks the constitution that has not been done by every single president....

You see, I agree that times are tough under Obama reign, but I do not live in a fairy tale land or glass bubble and KNOW where all of these woes came from....which is the 2008 bank crash and the housing boom bust, which ALL OCCURRED under the Bush reign....the woes from the 2008 CRASH/BUST just don't go away because we have a new man in the whitehouse, and for people to just expect them to disappear are kidding themselves imo.

Can you go to Egypt? Can you travel easily to other ME countries? Americans are more at risk for traveling today than under Bush.

I get that you want to blame all this on "Bush", at what point is boy wonder supposed to actually perform? What has he done to make any of it "better"? His "stimulus plans" that were promised to fix the infrastructure and make shovel ready jobs went to shore up his voting union minions. The debt, seriously, you are just blowing that off when that money went to Obama's "corporate friends"? His record is poor, his character is sad. There just is not one logical reason to re-elect this man that seem bent on destroying the middle class.

blame obama for things that he has CAUSED, should not be a problem...but to blame MORE food stamp receivers and more poor under his reign is foolish and just partisan rhetoric....and more hate in the middle east towards us then under the Bush administration is downright silly....and then to say the whole world hates us more under obama then under President Bush is also being a tad blind....we were hated by many for our non provoked attack, preemptive war without cause in Iraq.....some of our allies hated us for it, let alone the middle easterners.....

Yes, the very bad economic things that happened under the Bush reign DO NOT GO AWAY....it isn't a "blame bush, blame bush, blame bush just for the sake of blaming Bush".....the biggest crash since the GREAT DEPRESSION occurred under President bush's reign as president....that DOES NOT just GO AWAY.....it doesn't just disappear Logical4....it will take decades before we get back to normal and even then, us middle class and poor Americans may NEVER see what we once had, ever again....

McCain as President would be in the same boat as obama, when it comes to the economy because the the Boom created under President Bush and the Bust that happened in 2008 did not happen in a vacuum....

you want to bitch about the health care bill....now that doesn't come from President bush...it comes from Obama....

but to blame all the added poor to our society on Obama is just plain stupid is as stupid does....imo

You did not answer the question.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Typical right wing blather. They are a "digital" people. Only two choices for everything. They have no "nuance". Either this or that with no compromise and nothing in between.

That would be "binary," not "digital," dummy.

No wonder you voted for Obama......