CDZ The murder of Kim Jong-nang is part of Korea war plan

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    956.The murder of Kim Jong-nang is part of Korea war plan (4/15/2017)


    The murder of N.Korea's dictator Kim Jong-Un’s estranged half brother, Kim Jong Nam, in February in Malaysia was done by the US intelligence. I think. Because N.Korea is a totalitarian country. Where the government rules people with high pressure. They can arrest, detain, kill people in direct way because the system allowed them to do so. When they carry out terrorist activity abroad, same characteristic shown. N.Korea had bombed a S.Korea passenger airplane abroad. It's a direct violence. While the assassination of Kim Jong-nam was a very complex case. Two killers in the final murder stage - two women, were cheated into this case. They thought it was only a plank. Kim Chong-nang was killed by chemical poison - combined by two different chemicals from two women. So the woman could claim innocent because the chemical was unharmful before they reacted into poison on Kim's face. (Kim was killed after two women one after another put chemical on his face, women were told it was a plank.)

    It was a very intelligent assassination. The chief plotter can never be found.

    The direct killers are two foreigners: one is a Vietnamese and the other one is an Indonesian. That's not the way N.Korean used to do. Dictators don't trust their own people unless it is deep brain washed, let alone foreign people.

    US is a said "Democratic country". There is law to restrain its intelligence to act illegally, So they developed a bunch of tactics. To fulfill a mission through the hand of foreign agent is a common method. e.g. Wikileaks is a false flag used to meddle water. Julian Assange is an Australian. To interfere 2016 president election, Russian was bribed to hack Democrat's candidate. In my case, Chinese is bribed to frame drug case. It makes the chief plotter safe with the collaboration of a hostile country.

    The recent development proves the murder of Kim Jong-nang was a part of a war plan in Korea Peninsula. Kim Jong-nang was under Chinese protection. He and his family lived in Macao (a former colony of Portugal now taken back by China) He is no doubt pro-China.


    US now openly announces a war plan on N.Korea. I think the core plan is: decapitation of Kim Jong-un. But if Kim Jong-un is dead, in monarch style N.Korea, Kim Jong-nang could succeeds to be the fourth ruler of Kim family. US wouldn't want to see N.Korea fall into the hand of China. Kim Jong-un is not obedient to China anyhow. Then Kim jong-nang's death becomes part of Korea war plan.


    Though most likely it will be a missile attack on N.Korea like what they had done in Syria and bomb attack
     
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    Is your cover blown?
     
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    Why is the OP carrying water for Kim and NoKo?
     
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    A demilitarized and united Korea is in the interests of both China and the U.S. China would have a new trading partner and wouldn't have to worry about refugees, plus there would be no need for Japan to go nuclear in self-defense against NK. The U.S. wouldn't have to station and pay for troops in SK, and closer relations with China would further isolate Russia. Win-win for both countries.
     
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    A perfect world outcome, but probably not happening. Short of that, I do believe that China currently does want a non-nuclearized Korean peninsula.
     
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    The OP doesn't endorse, serve, aid, abet, advocate for, or say anything positive about KJU or the DPRK. Just what makes you think the OP-er is "carrying water" for either?
     
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    Are you his defense attorney?
     
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    I don't agree that Kim Jong Nan's (KJN) assassination was part of a war plan, at least not one with a foreign power. The murder makes more sense as a strategic impediment to Kim Jong Un's (KJU) being assassinated by secreted opponents in his government. With KJN alive, the question of succession is pretty straight forward; upon KJU's demise, KJN becomes the ruler. With KJN dead, opponents have to now devise plan for a means to implement a path for determining who'd succeed KJU and then successfully get that person installed. That path, no matter what it is, almost certainly, like the succession of many a king with no clear heir apparent, will be contentious.

    As if the planning for a successor isn't difficult enough, there is also the matter of the "noise" doing dp creates. That "noise" puts any such plotters at much greater risk of discovery. "Noise" makes people look. People who create it know that as well as KJU does. That they must undertake the activity to coordinate not only an assassination or coup, forces also an increased sense of urgency, which in turn increases the risk of discovery. Murdering his brother was a preemptive move that forces his would-be domestic adversaries to either (1) make that "noise," or (2) cease and desist with any notions of replacing him. Strategically, with regard to KJU's domestic efforts to maintain and protect his status as supreme leader, the assassination of KJN was among, if not "the" best thing he could have done to extend temporally his primacy.

    If one wants to call KJN's killing part of a war plan, one can, but one must preface "war" with "civil," that or call such envisioned war a coup, an act that itself could foment civil war. Does KJN's death create an additional concern for foreign opponents to KJU? Yes, it does, but it does so by limiting their options for ousting him to war rather than by less calamitous means. KJU, for however insane he may be, is almost certainly not desirous of an all out war with his foreign opponents. He can see as well as anyone else can that with all his nuclear "sabre rattling," his opponents need never put a boot on the ground in the DPRK to destroy him and his whole country.

    What does that mean for South Korea? Well, it means nuclear fallout for the prevailing winds would carry nuclear fallout their way and to Japan. While they or the U.S. can probably intercept nuclear missiles KJU might launch, nobody can stop or divert the wind.

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    Seasonal wind patters in South Asia
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    The thing is that the U.S. would sacrifice its relationship with South Korea and Japan before it allowed KJU to launch a nuclear attack on the U.S. mainland, or before it failed to retaliate in kind were he to successfully land a nuke on U.S. soil.
     
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    No I'm not.

    Why are you incapable of providing a direct answer to a simple question about the foundations of a thought you expressed?
     
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    So, you are his defense attorney!
     

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