The Most Hated President

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    What exactly is bad about foriegn policy?

    Why is it people seem to be upset when we liberate two nations from ruthless dictators and actually want to do something to help rather than just talking about it and pat ourselves on the back for good intentions?

    You seem to think that people hating President Bush tells you something about him. It doesnt. It tells you more about the people who hate.

    But then again i guess it does say something about the President. That he is doing something and people are afraid because its going to hurt their power base.
     
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    :clap: :clap:

    The Presidency is of the US, not the world. There are times that a country must do in what its leadership feels is in its best interest. Not only did the President sign on, so did the Congress. The UN, while waffleing under French machinations, still had passed 17 resolutions through the years regarding Iraq.

    As far as Menewa's:
    My take is like something I say earlier today, 'If Bush does not win, it will make the Spanish elections look like a student council loss in Iowa to the terrorists.'
     
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    Wow. A liberal web site posted something two years ago saying everybody hates GWB. There's a shocker.
     
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    lol, I dislike Bush more than any other President of my lifetime.

    Hate is a strong word, though, that I reserve for the likes of Hitler and Zima.;)
     
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    Why? Because he will defend america and our values, which, by the way, are not the socialist values you've been brainwashed to believe.
     
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    Congratulations !!!! your brainwashing is complete !!
     
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    Britain and France both hated Lincoln, and half the country hated the U.S. government enough to secede.

    Now, I'm not comparing Bush to Lincoln, but I am saying that a hated president isn't necessarily a bad president.
     
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    Ya, I wouldn't say I hate Bush. I just disagree and dislike things about him and his policies. But ya, I would have to say that he isn't too popular right now in certain areas.

    I guess the Irish aren't too fond of him either right now:
    June 26, 2004. The New York Times
    Bush Gets Chilly Reception on Eve of Meeting in Ireland
    By ELISABETH BUMILLER

    NNIS, Ireland, June 25 — President Bush arrived Friday night at the heavily guarded Dromoland Castle as the authorities braced for large demonstrations across Ireland against the war in Iraq.

    The president was greeted on the eve of a European Union summit meeting by Prime Minister Bertie Ahern, who posed for pictures with Mr. Bush, then took a half-hour walk with him in the evening rain. But over all, Mr. Bush's arrival in Ireland was in striking contrast to the jubilant welcomes accorded here to Presidents Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton and John F. Kennedy.

    Mr. Bush's reception was frosty, if not outright hostile, as widespread opposition to the Iraq war and revulsion at the Abu Ghraib prison scandal have turned a large portion of Irish popular opinion against him.

    In Dublin on Friday, the police estimated that 10,000 protesters marched through the heart of the city, among them the deputy lord mayor, Andrew Montague. Other protesters were kept outside the security cordon and largely out of sight of Mr. Bush at Shannon Airport, where Air Force One landed. In what the authorities called the biggest security operation ever mounted in Ireland, more than 6,000 police and soldiers manned checkpoints in the hinterlands around Shannon and Dromoland Castle.

    Smaller protests were under way in the cities of Galway, Sligo, Waterford and Tralee in County Kerry.

    "Fury and fear as town is turned into a fortress," the headline in the Irish Examiner said. The newspaper quoted the mayor of Shannon as saying that the town's residents were being made into a potential target for a terrorist attack.

    In Dublin, protesters said they were anti-Bush, not anti-American.

    "I love America," said Tim Goulding, 59, an artist from County Wicklow. Mr. Goulding said he was marching in the city's streets because "there is no connection between 9/11 and Iraq."

    "It was a completely illogical hitting out," he said. "It seemed like an act of revenge."

    Mary O'Rourke, the leader of the Irish Senate, who refused to attend a recent dinner in celebration of Mr. Bush's impending visit at the home of the American ambassador, James C. Kenny, echoed Mr. Goulding.

    "Nobody denies we have an affinity with the United States, but that is a different matter from having an affinity with the president," Ms. O'Rourke said in the Irish Parliament this week.

    But the centrist Irish Independent newspaper said in an editorial on Friday that while Mr. Bush's trip will be the equivalent for the protesters of "a visit from the Devil Incarnate," the demonstrations "seem a bit out of touch." The newspaper added that with the planned transfer of sovereignty from the United States to the Iraqis on June 30, "we are now tantalizingly close to the big step that the Americans have been promising all along."

    Police were keeping protesters at least a mile from Dromoland Castle, a 16th-century Renaissance fortress turned luxury hotel and golf resort, in the small town of Newmarket-on-Fergus.

    Mr. Bush is to remain in Ireland only 18 hours before heading to Ankara, Turkey, and then to Istanbul for a NATO summit meeting, where the United States is seeking help from the trans-Atlantic alliance to train Iraqi security forces. Security was reported to be extremely tight after bombs in both cities killed four people on Thursday.

    A Turkish television station, CNN Turk, reported that the authorities had also discovered a vehicle full of explosives in a parking lot at Istanbul International Airport on Friday, according to news agencies.

    The European Union-United States summit meeting that begins on Saturday is to focus on the political relationship between the United States and Europe, which continues to be strained by the war in Iraq. But both sides are expected to issue joint statements on the Middle East, counterterrorism and unconventional weapons, among other issues.

    "There is no point in us continuing to focus on the passionate argument about intervention," Chris Patten, the European Union's commissioner for external affairs, told White House reporters staying in Ennis, a town about six miles from Dromoland Castle. "We have a shared interest in trying to ensure that the new Iraq is able to be open, pluralistic, democratic and, pray God, stable as well, despite the present exceptionally difficult security situation."

    But Mr. Patten was indirectly critical of the United States over disclosures of aggressive prisoner interrogation options set out by Bush administration lawyers, including an August 2002 Justice Department memo that appeared to offer a permissive definition of torture.

    Read more here: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/26/international/europe/26NATO.html

    or here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3841367.stm

    But then again, Bush has met adversity in this country as well from the beginning.

    Crowds Protest Bush Inauguration

    By RON KAMPEAS
    Associated Press Writer

    WASHINGTON JANUARY 21, 2001 (AP) — George W. Bush's motorcade crept through the largest inaugural protests since Richard Nixon on Saturday, enduring thousands of protesters who hurled insults at the newly installed president. Some threw bottles, tomatoes and an egg and one demonstrator burned an American flag atop a lamppost.

    Protesters clashed briefly with police clad in riot gear at a few flash points while Bush remained inside his armored stretch car for most of the parade up a soggy, cold Pennsylvania Avenue.

    Police ordered the motorcade to slow in anticipation of some protests — at one point stopping it for five minutes — and then sped it through others.

    A couple of protesters threw bottles and tomatoes before the presidential limousine arrived, and one hurled an egg that landed near the motorcade, the Secret Service said.

    But the protesters managed little else to interrupt the festivities in the face of a massive show of 7,000 police officers. As the day grew darker and colder, authorities had arrested only eight people and activists began to disperse, said Terrance W. Gainer, executive assistant chief of police. One of them was charged with assault with a deadly weapon after slashing tires and trying to assault an officer, Gainer said.

    "Hail to the Thief,'' read one sign along the parade route questioning the legitimacy of Bush's election win in Florida. Other protesters sported buttons declaring, "illegitimate Son of a Bush.''

    "If he had won clearly, I wouldn't have troubled to come here,'' said Mack Wilder, a construction worker from Greensboro, N.C., who joined over 100 others from the state for a five-hour bus journey through fog and rain.

    Read more here: http://home.earthlink.net/~exonews/government/crowds_protest.htm
     
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    I love how in your mind I must be brainwashed to dislike Bush.

    Just my opinion, bro, never liked him.
     

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