The Most Evil Men in History Ivan the Terrible

[Litwin]

by the way do you know how many plans Germany has had except Generalplan Ost? and do you know that Koba and other commies have promoted for years and years, the fairytale about "Generalplan Ost"

Well, you think only Jews suffered at the hands of Nazi Germany.

You're either a paid NATO / EU propagandist, or a Jew.
or perhaps both.

i am not think , i know that the Jews were targeted, from day one. i know once you didn´t resist them they ´d not harm you. meanwhile, mongols did harm anyone, confiscations, all independent institutes etc. take my word many in Poland lived good lives under G. occupation . of cos not the Jews...

Oh okay, Poland lived good lives under Nazi German occupation, what a propagandist bullshitter you are.

Occupation of Poland (1939–1945) - Wikipedia

buy a book of T. Snyder...i never said entire Poland, i said many ....

What by Soviets is as bad as these Nazi Germany abduction of Polish children in mass to be abused?

Heuaktion - Wikipedia

Kidnapping of children by Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

off topic, we talk here about Ivan the sodomizer

 

[Litwin]

really? LOL even Sweden?

whats about your lovely Muscovy?
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I don't love Moscow, or Putin, but I don't hate them only.

I actually support Intermarium, to link nations from the Baltic to the Balkans, to say F you to dirty multicultural Western Europe, and also Putin's Russia.

I actually hate Western Europeans much more, the ones who call Poles dumb Polak, thieves, plumbers, prostitutes, drunks, and whom threaten sanctions upon Poland for only rejecting Islamic refugees.

Furthermore, Russians are Slavic, they look, and act more like Poles, than Western Europeans do overall.

it

me too ... i can start it right new

Anthony Sutton proves that Western sources propped up heavily both Nazis, and Soviets anyways.

Probably all one giant Slavic genocide.

back on topic, what do think about Ivan the sodomizer?

ps for you
John Mackinder "Who rules East Europe commands the World" Heartland Theory/ Intermarium

When the evil Western Europeans invaded lands, they first made sure similar tribes would combat each other, to divide, and conquer them.

You are a Western European anti-Slavic stooge, you're goal whether by idiocy or by propagandist purposes, is to help divide, and conquer the Slavic people.

its post 1945 construction , and total BS. we side by side with Poles fight ulus 90% of all our wars. so stop your BS obsession with Germans , we are Ok with them...ulus is our foe

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

I don't love Moscow, or Putin, but I don't hate them only.

I actually support Intermarium, to link nations from the Baltic to the Balkans, to say F you to dirty multicultural Western Europe, and also Putin's Russia.

I actually hate Western Europeans much more, the ones who call Poles dumb Polak, thieves, plumbers, prostitutes, drunks, and whom threaten sanctions upon Poland for only rejecting Islamic refugees.

Furthermore, Russians are Slavic, they look, and act more like Poles, than Western Europeans do overall.

it

me too ... i can start it right new

Anthony Sutton proves that Western sources propped up heavily both Nazis, and Soviets anyways.

Probably all one giant Slavic genocide.

back on topic, what do think about Ivan the sodomizer?

ps for you
John Mackinder "Who rules East Europe commands the World" Heartland Theory/ Intermarium

When the evil Western Europeans invaded lands, they first made sure similar tribes would combat each other, to divide, and conquer them.

You are a Western European anti-Slavic stooge, you're goal whether by idiocy or by propagandist purposes, is to help divide, and conquer the Slavic people.

its post 1945 construction , and total BS. we side by side with Poles fight ulus 90% of all our wars. so stop your BS obsession with Germans , we are Ok with them...ulus is our foe

Russia's bad, the West is far worse, always has been, always will be.

 

[Litwin]

it

me too ... i can start it right new

Anthony Sutton proves that Western sources propped up heavily both Nazis, and Soviets anyways.

Probably all one giant Slavic genocide.

back on topic, what do think about Ivan the sodomizer?

ps for you
John Mackinder "Who rules East Europe commands the World" Heartland Theory/ Intermarium

When the evil Western Europeans invaded lands, they first made sure similar tribes would combat each other, to divide, and conquer them.

You are a Western European anti-Slavic stooge, you're goal whether by idiocy or by propagandist purposes, is to help divide, and conquer the Slavic people.

its post 1945 construction , and total BS. we side by side with Poles fight ulus 90% of all our wars. so stop your BS obsession with Germans , we are Ok with them...ulus is our foe

Russia's bad, the West is far worse, always has been, always will be.

move to ulus

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

There's no use in talking to an insane Slavic person who spends 100% of their time bashing Slavic Russians.

Your goal is nothing positive for Slavic peoples, but mockery, division.,death, despair, war, genocide, and everything else against the Slavic people.

 

[Litwin]

There's no use in talking to an insane Slavic person who spends 100% of their time bashing Slavic Russians.

Your goal is nothing positive for Slavic peoples, but mockery, division.,death, despair, war, genocide, and everything else against the Slavic people.

you´d know already that Muscovy is a mongol empire, and Muscovites are Finns, and have nothing to do with slaves . need more proves from me?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

There's no use in talking to an insane Slavic person who spends 100% of their time bashing Slavic Russians.

Your goal is nothing positive for Slavic peoples, but mockery, division.,death, despair, war, genocide, and everything else against the Slavic people.

you´d know already that Muscovy is a mongol empire, and Muscovites are Finns, and have nothing to do with slaves . need more proves from me?

Many Western Europeans see Slavs as sub-Human savages, you come off as one.

 

[Litwin]

There's no use in talking to an insane Slavic person who spends 100% of their time bashing Slavic Russians.

Your goal is nothing positive for Slavic peoples, but mockery, division.,death, despair, war, genocide, and everything else against the Slavic people.

you´d know already that Muscovy is a mongol empire, and Muscovites are Finns, and have nothing to do with slaves . need more proves from me?

Many Western Europeans see Slavs as sub-Human savages, you come off as one.

BS.
a simple question , when Budapest, or Praga became part of the eastern Europe? when "Western Europeans" have begun to see Czech slaves as the "sub-Human savages" I AN ASKING YOU ABOUT the YEAR NOT ABOUT YOUR ORDINARY ANTI- GERMAN BS

 

[Litwin]

There's no use in talking to an insane Slavic person who spends 100% of their time bashing Slavic Russians.

Your goal is nothing positive for Slavic peoples, but mockery, division.,death, despair, war, genocide, and everything else against the Slavic people.

you´d know already that Muscovy is a mongol empire, and Muscovites are Finns, and have nothing to do with slaves . need more proves from me?

Many Western Europeans see Slavs as sub-Human savages, you come off as one.

BS.
a simple question , when Budapest, or Praga became part of the eastern Europe? when "Western Europeans" have begun to see Czech slaves as the "sub-Human savages" I AN ASKING YOU ABOUT the YEAR NOT ABOUT YOUR ORDINARY ANTI- GERMAN BS

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

There's no use in talking to an insane Slavic person who spends 100% of their time bashing Slavic Russians.

Your goal is nothing positive for Slavic peoples, but mockery, division.,death, despair, war, genocide, and everything else against the Slavic people.

you´d know already that Muscovy is a mongol empire, and Muscovites are Finns, and have nothing to do with slaves . need more proves from me?

Many Western Europeans see Slavs as sub-Human savages, you come off as one.

BS.
a simple question , when Budapest, or Praga became part of the eastern Europe? when "Western Europeans" have begun to see Czech slaves as the "sub-Human savages" I AN ASKING YOU ABOUT the YEAR NOT ABOUT YOUR ORDINARY ANTI- GERMAN BS

Do most Western Europeans even know of the existence of Czechs?

Anti-German BS?'
If so, then what about your anti-Russian BS?

I guess it's okay when Germans massacre Slavs in your eyes, it's only wrong when Russians do it.

 

[Litwin]

There's no use in talking to an insane Slavic person who spends 100% of their time bashing Slavic Russians.

Your goal is nothing positive for Slavic peoples, but mockery, division.,death, despair, war, genocide, and everything else against the Slavic people.

you´d know already that Muscovy is a mongol empire, and Muscovites are Finns, and have nothing to do with slaves . need more proves from me?

Many Western Europeans see Slavs as sub-Human savages, you come off as one.

BS.
a simple question , when Budapest, or Praga became part of the eastern Europe? when "Western Europeans" have begun to see Czech slaves as the "sub-Human savages" I AN ASKING YOU ABOUT the YEAR NOT ABOUT YOUR ORDINARY ANTI- GERMAN BS

Do most Western Europeans even know of the existence of Czechs?

well , lest start from beginning , before Koba´s afro- Asian occupation , Czechoslovakia was n4 most industrial country in Europe., defiantly part of western Europe, and Budapest was N2 city after Paris before Mongols took over. buy this book and stop for Putlerist propaganda here, shame on you Pole

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

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  There's no use in talking to an insane Slavic person who spends 100% of their time bashing Slavic Russians.
  
  Your goal is nothing positive for Slavic peoples, but mockery, division.,death, despair, war, genocide, and everything else against the Slavic people.

  you´d know already that Muscovy is a mongol empire, and Muscovites are Finns, and have nothing to do with slaves . need more proves from me?

  
  
  Many Western Europeans see Slavs as sub-Human savages, you come off as one.

  
  BS.
  a simple question , when Budapest, or Praga became part of the eastern Europe? when "Western Europeans" have begun to see Czech slaves as the "sub-Human savages" I AN ASKING YOU ABOUT the YEAR NOT ABOUT YOUR ORDINARY ANTI- GERMAN BS

  
  Do most Western Europeans even know of the existence of Czechs?

  well , lest start from beginning , before Koba´s afro- Asian occupation , Czechoslovakia was n4 most industrial country in Europe., defiantly part of western Europe, and Budapest was N2 city after Paris before Mongols took over. buy this book and stop for Putlerist propaganda here, shame on you Pole
  
  
  
  

You come off like a Jew, the things you say like only Jews were victims of Nazis, or that the West is better because it has more money, is how Jews think.

 

[Litwin]

'Allah is Great' inscribed on helmet of Ivan the Terrible, Iranian diplomat says
12 Jun 2009 Paul Goble
VIENNA, June 12 – An Arabic inscription on the helmet worn by Ivan the Terrible reads “Allah Mohammed,” according to an Iranian diplomat, who told Russian journalists in Astrakhan this week that these words could be an abbreviated form of “well-known expression that ‘’Allah is Great and Mohammed is His Prophet.’”

Seid Holmarez Meyguni, Iran’s consul general in Astrakhan, noted that the Arab inscription on the upper portion of the tsar’s helmet now on display there comes from “a rare Arabic dialect” but that there is no doubt in his mind that the words should be translated as he suggested, according to a report in “Izvestiya” (www.izvestia.ru/news/news20672....

Russian experts are treating Meyguni’s suggestion with respect, but they are calling for further investigation not only of the translation but of what the appearance of such an inscription on the field crown of the Russian tsar who conquered a series of Muslim khanates including Astrakhan and Kazan could mean.

Elena Arutyunova, a senior specialist at the Astrakhan museum where Ivan’s helmet is now on display, told Itar-Tass that “we consider the translation of the Iranian consul as a version which behind doubt requires checking by linguists and orientalists,” who should also seek to determine why it was there.

One explanation, she suggested, is that this headgear was “given to the father of Ivan the Grozny by the Turkish sultan,” an interpretation that is suggested by another inscription, “already in the Slavic language, identifying this helmet as that of Prince Ivan Vasilyevich, the son of the Great Prince Vasiliy Ivanovich.”

The helmet itself has an interesting history. It currently belongs to the Royal Armament Chamber of the Swedish government but was specially loaned to Astrakhan for an exhibit in honor of the “forcible” incorporation of that khanate by Ivan. “Earlier,” the Moscow paper continued, “it has been displayed in the Armament Chamber of the Moscow Kremlin.”

According to the “Izvestiya” article, there are several possible explanations for how the helmet of Ivan the Terrible ended up in Stockholm. “It is possible,” the paper said, that “it was seized in Moscow during the Time of Troubles in 1611-1612 and along with other treasures was sent to Warsaw for King Sigismund.”

“Then, in 1665, when the Polish forces suffered defeat in a war with Sweden,” the crown could “have been carried off by the Swedes from Warsaw as their trophy,” an explanation that is supported by the appearance of Ivan’s helmet in the 1663 inventory of the Royal Armament Chamber in Stockholm.”

This report about a single exhibit is part of the larger and unsettled debates about the origins of Russia and the Russians that continue to resound among residents of that country even as people there mark its national day (For a discussion, see www.vestnikcivitas.ru/pbls/714...) But it also serves as a reminder of two other and more important aspects of that history.

On the one hand, this report highlights the dangers of trying to impose a single “correct” reading on many issues in that complex history. And on the other, this story calls attention to something many Russian nationalists currently are reluctant to admit: the role that Islam and Islamic peoples have played not only as opponents of Russian statehood but as parts of it.