CDZ The Medical Marijuana Hoax

What ever makes the person feel better.

Are you really going to throw dying people in prison for smoking a damn leaf? Now who's the big government fascist?

the vast majority of those claiming to 'need it for medical reasons' are phonies. The breeds of pot they're growing to sell to dope addled halfwits isn't 'just a damned leaf', nor is it 'natural' marijuana, not even close, and it isn't for medicinal purposes.
 
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rational addiction; i would rather be euphoric when about my chores than not. my chores tend to get done more often, when I am more euphoric about it.

That is a good name then.

Pot is soo rationally addictive ppl throw away multi million dollar salaries and risk going to jail for it.
California recently legalized it, and we are expecting revenue of around a billion a year.

Agreed. Honestly I'm for legalized pot until folks screw up while stoned and lose their "I can handle pot" card. Same for alcohol.

On the flip side to your statement, think of the money the state could make off legalized coke/crack and heroin? Would that be best for society?

Okay- we are in agreement that we should treat pot and alcohol the same.

Do you think that pot and alcohol are the same as coke and heroin?

The real question is keeping coke and heroin illegal the best way to combat those addictions? Portugal has decriminalized all drug use- and by every measurement it is a success
  • less crime
  • less addiction
  • more addicts getting treatment
  • less government money being spent on drug enforcement/prison.
i would love the United States to take an honest look at drug policy and come up with the strategy that is best of Americans- not just a knee jerk reaction to a campaign slogan.

Do we have any historical experiments we can reference?

I think folks can't handle being alowed to get drunk w/o going driving and killing ppl so I question the effects of a really gooood drug like heroin on em.

I specifically mentioned Portugal's experience. That is a real life experiment with great success by any measurement- and you just ignored it.

So I don't think that you really care about 'evidence' so much as 'war on drugs good'
 
Neither alcohol nor marijuana are physically addictive.

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I am not going to argue physically vs mentally addictive. All I know is habitual users go through some trouble to get high for something they are not "addicted" to.
rational addiction; i would rather be euphoric when about my chores than not. my chores tend to get done more often, when I am more euphoric about it.

That is a good name then.

Pot is soo rationally addictive ppl throw away multi million dollar salaries and risk going to jail for it.
California recently legalized it, and we are expecting revenue of around a billion a year.

Legalize slavery and make even more. Same with pedophilia; why not be the next Thailand? They rake in lots of dough from that.

Yes- to the contards, legalizing a person using marijuana is just the same as legalizing slavery and child rape.

So much for 'conservatives' believing in either personal responsibility or small government.
 
Well I thought about the same thing, but in as the DEA has caused my pain Doc to cut my meds by 50 percent I have been having pain very hight in the past 4 months and I found out that they have it in pill form. Going to try it at least once if it works I will be glad to give up the drug.
BYW these meds have no thc in them so getting high does not happen. I'll post my opinion.

They can extract the active ingredients that work, no need to smoke the stuff. And yes, it has indeed proven to be just a trojan horse.

So that big pharma can make big money off of something a person could actually grow himself?
 
What ever makes the person feel better.

Are you really going to throw dying people in prison for smoking a damn leaf? Now who's the big government fascist?

the vast majority of those claiming to 'need it for medical reasons' are phonies. The breeds of pot they're growing to sell to dope addled halfwits isn't 'just a damned leaf', nor is it 'natural' marijuana, not even close, and it isn't for medicinal purposes.

The vast majority of those claiming that the vast majority of those using medical pot are phonies cannot prove any of their claims.

While I agree there are those who have used the medical pot laws to obtain pot for recreational marijuana, there are also those who legitimately use pot for medical relief, and that those who believe in Big Government imposing their morality on all of us- believe should not be able to use marijuana for medical relief.
 
What ever makes the person feel better.

Are you really going to throw dying people in prison for smoking a damn leaf? Now who's the big government fascist?

the vast majority of those claiming to 'need it for medical reasons' are phonies. The breeds of pot they're growing to sell to dope addled halfwits isn't 'just a damned leaf', nor is it 'natural' marijuana, not even close, and it isn't for medicinal purposes.

The vast majority of those claiming that the vast majority of those using medical pot are phonies cannot prove any of their claims.

While I agree there are those who have used the medical pot laws to obtain pot for recreational marijuana, there are also those who legitimately use pot for medical relief, and that those who believe in Big Government imposing their morality on all of us- believe should not be able to use marijuana for medical relief.
We conservatives don't have any gripes about people who take medical marijuana in pill form for pain. I have two severely wounded combat soldiers I take to VA appointments who take pills for pain and neither one has ever smoked the shit. Our gripe is with people who smoke the shit. Marijuana today is many times stronger than it was 10, 20, 30 years ago and it's dangerous and addictive, and does lead to stronger drugs. Plus, the FDA lists marijuana as an illegal drug regardless of what the Godless states approve. We can attribute all that lawlessness and depravity to that Muslim cocksucker who did a magnificent job of trying ruin the country.
 
What ever makes the person feel better.

Are you really going to throw dying people in prison for smoking a damn leaf? Now who's the big government fascist?

the vast majority of those claiming to 'need it for medical reasons' are phonies. The breeds of pot they're growing to sell to dope addled halfwits isn't 'just a damned leaf', nor is it 'natural' marijuana, not even close, and it isn't for medicinal purposes.

The vast majority of those claiming that the vast majority of those using medical pot are phonies cannot prove any of their claims.

While I agree there are those who have used the medical pot laws to obtain pot for recreational marijuana, there are also those who legitimately use pot for medical relief, and that those who believe in Big Government imposing their morality on all of us- believe should not be able to use marijuana for medical relief.
We conservatives don't have any gripes about people who take medical marijuana in pill form for pain. I have two severely wounded combat soldiers I take to VA appointments who take pills for pain and neither one has ever smoked the shit. Our gripe is with people who smoke the shit. Marijuana today is many times stronger than it was 10, 20, 30 years ago and it's dangerous and addictive, and does lead to stronger drugs. Plus, the FDA lists marijuana as an illegal drug regardless of what the Godless states approve. We can attribute all that lawlessness and depravity to that Muslim cocksucker who did a magnificent job of trying ruin the country.

Plenty of you 'conservatives' do have problems with it- see Picaro's posts.

There is no evidence that marijuana does lead to stronger drugs- no more than alcohol or cigarettes do.

The FDA does list marijuana as an illegal drug- regardless of the evidence.

We can attribute veterans in states with legal marijuana laws being able to get some relieve to the work of people who care about veterans and others in pain- and not the godless cocksucker in the White House currently trying to ruin America
 
What ever makes the person feel better.

Are you really going to throw dying people in prison for smoking a damn leaf? Now who's the big government fascist?

the vast majority of those claiming to 'need it for medical reasons' are phonies. The breeds of pot they're growing to sell to dope addled halfwits isn't 'just a damned leaf', nor is it 'natural' marijuana, not even close, and it isn't for medicinal purposes.

The vast majority of those claiming that the vast majority of those using medical pot are phonies cannot prove any of their claims.

While I agree there are those who have used the medical pot laws to obtain pot for recreational marijuana, there are also those who legitimately use pot for medical relief, and that those who believe in Big Government imposing their morality on all of us- believe should not be able to use marijuana for medical relief.
We conservatives don't have any gripes about people who take medical marijuana in pill form for pain. I have two severely wounded combat soldiers I take to VA appointments who take pills for pain and neither one has ever smoked the shit. Our gripe is with people who smoke the shit. Marijuana today is many times stronger than it was 10, 20, 30 years ago and it's dangerous and addictive, and does lead to stronger drugs. Plus, the FDA lists marijuana as an illegal drug regardless of what the Godless states approve. We can attribute all that lawlessness and depravity to that Muslim cocksucker who did a magnificent job of trying ruin the country.

Plenty of you 'conservatives' do have problems with it- see Picaro's posts.

There is no evidence that marijuana does lead to stronger drugs- no more than alcohol or cigarettes do.

The FDA does list marijuana as an illegal drug- regardless of the evidence.

We can attribute veterans in states with legal marijuana laws being able to get some relieve to the work of people who care about veterans and others in pain- and not the godless cocksucker in the White House currently trying to ruin America

Trump is not trying to ruin America but is trying to ruin Progressive liberal OWG Socialists.
 
What ever makes the person feel better.

Are you really going to throw dying people in prison for smoking a damn leaf? Now who's the big government fascist?

the vast majority of those claiming to 'need it for medical reasons' are phonies. The breeds of pot they're growing to sell to dope addled halfwits isn't 'just a damned leaf', nor is it 'natural' marijuana, not even close, and it isn't for medicinal purposes.

The vast majority of those claiming that the vast majority of those using medical pot are phonies cannot prove any of their claims.

While I agree there are those who have used the medical pot laws to obtain pot for recreational marijuana, there are also those who legitimately use pot for medical relief, and that those who believe in Big Government imposing their morality on all of us- believe should not be able to use marijuana for medical relief.
We conservatives don't have any gripes about people who take medical marijuana in pill form for pain. I have two severely wounded combat soldiers I take to VA appointments who take pills for pain and neither one has ever smoked the shit. Our gripe is with people who smoke the shit. Marijuana today is many times stronger than it was 10, 20, 30 years ago and it's dangerous and addictive, and does lead to stronger drugs. Plus, the FDA lists marijuana as an illegal drug regardless of what the Godless states approve. We can attribute all that lawlessness and depravity to that Muslim cocksucker who did a magnificent job of trying ruin the country.

Plenty of you 'conservatives' do have problems with it- see Picaro's posts.

There is no evidence that marijuana does lead to stronger drugs- no more than alcohol or cigarettes do.

The FDA does list marijuana as an illegal drug- regardless of the evidence.

We can attribute veterans in states with legal marijuana laws being able to get some relieve to the work of people who care about veterans and others in pain- and not the godless cocksucker in the White House currently trying to ruin America

Trump is not trying to ruin America but is trying to ruin Progressive liberal OWG Socialists.

The godless cocksucker Trump is trying to further enrich his family at the expense of America- not that his attempt to start a trade war will enrich his family- he just is too stupid to know how much a trade war would hurt Americans.
 
the vast majority of those claiming to 'need it for medical reasons' are phonies. The breeds of pot they're growing to sell to dope addled halfwits isn't 'just a damned leaf', nor is it 'natural' marijuana, not even close, and it isn't for medicinal purposes.

The vast majority of those claiming that the vast majority of those using medical pot are phonies cannot prove any of their claims.

While I agree there are those who have used the medical pot laws to obtain pot for recreational marijuana, there are also those who legitimately use pot for medical relief, and that those who believe in Big Government imposing their morality on all of us- believe should not be able to use marijuana for medical relief.
We conservatives don't have any gripes about people who take medical marijuana in pill form for pain. I have two severely wounded combat soldiers I take to VA appointments who take pills for pain and neither one has ever smoked the shit. Our gripe is with people who smoke the shit. Marijuana today is many times stronger than it was 10, 20, 30 years ago and it's dangerous and addictive, and does lead to stronger drugs. Plus, the FDA lists marijuana as an illegal drug regardless of what the Godless states approve. We can attribute all that lawlessness and depravity to that Muslim cocksucker who did a magnificent job of trying ruin the country.

Plenty of you 'conservatives' do have problems with it- see Picaro's posts.

There is no evidence that marijuana does lead to stronger drugs- no more than alcohol or cigarettes do.

The FDA does list marijuana as an illegal drug- regardless of the evidence.

We can attribute veterans in states with legal marijuana laws being able to get some relieve to the work of people who care about veterans and others in pain- and not the godless cocksucker in the White House currently trying to ruin America

Trump is not trying to ruin America but is trying to ruin Progressive liberal OWG Socialists.

The godless cocksucker Trump is trying to further enrich his family at the expense of America- not that his attempt to start a trade war will enrich his family- he just is too stupid to know how much a trade war would hurt Americans.
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It;s not a war when Germany, Japan, Sweden and Korea, among others, flood the US with cars and other goods without a tariff and they either won't buy our cars and other goods unless we pay an outrageously high tariff. Fuckum all.
 
Ever since the 60s and the hippie craze, I never heard anyone claim that pot was good for pain. But since the puking liberals got pot legalized everywhere, it's suddenly the greatest pain killer since aspirin was discovered. Witness all the clueless dead heads who are heavy users.

While the legalization of marijuana may scare some, the benefits are so great that it needs to be implemented everywhere.

A large concern of those opposed to the legalization of marijuana, is that it will be a “Trojan horse,” opening the door for far worse drugs. Legalizing marijuana for medical usage does not mean a free for all of recreational drug usage. The National Institute on Drug Abuse states that majority of people who use marijuana do not go on to other, “harder” substances (Is marijuana a gateway drug?). It cannot be said that usage leads to worse things for a whole group. All users have different biological makeups and life situations that may have pushed them to this. If there is such a concern for marijuana leading to worse things, then other, more common substances need to be looked at as well. The same websites states “alcohol and nicotine also prime the brain for a heightened response to other drugs and are, like marijuana, also typically used before a person progresses to other more harmful substances.” If it is said that the use of marijuana for medical purposes should not be legalized in fear of it leading to more harmful things… then the same should be said for alcohol and nicotine as well. Ban beer and ban the cigs along with the pot. Marijuana has far better and more important uses that need to be looked at as well.

Once legalized, an actual doctor, not a dealer, will issue you a dispensary card and prescribe medical marijuana to treat seizure disorders, Crohn’s disease, nausea from chemotherapy, muscle spasms caused by multiple sclerosis, and poor appetite and weight loss caused by chronic illnesses like HIV or nerve pain (Medical Marijuana). The most common usage for medicinal marijuana is pain. Cannabis has shown especially effective in combating neuropathic pain from nerve damage and is less habit-forming than opiate drugs (7 uses for medical marijuana). Marijuana also carries virtually no risk of a fatal overdose as opposed to opiates. Legalization of medical marijuana could quite possibly lower the rates of addiction and death in opiate drug users.

If you have a Facebook, I guarantee you at some point you have come across a video of the miracle cannabis works on epileptic seizures. Every video begins the same, someone recording their loved one shaking uncontrollably in jerky, painful movements. They administer a drop or two of a liquid form of cannabis and the patient begins to relax, as their body stops the seizing. Cannabidiol (CBD), a non-psychoactive compound of cannabis (Medical Marijuana and Epilepsy) is what is able to help these patients. Watching how quick CBD affects an epileptic patient and helps them is truly amazing. If there is tons of visual evidence, testimonies, and clinical studies, then why are we not legalizing marijuana to help patients everywhere?

Medical marijuana has many purposes and can help varying patients all over. For some patients, whether epileptic, chemo, or CTE stricken, cannabis is their only answer, and we need to help them.
Good. Maybe someday soon maryjane will be used to cure cancer, sinusitus , bad breath and crotch rot.
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It is being used to treat cancer and evidence is showing that marijuana can slow the growth and spread of cancer cells.

Everything You Need To Know About Cannabis And Cancer Treatment


It is used very successfully to treat a variety of medical conditions including but not limited to; cancer, glaucoma, HIV/AIDS, hepatitis C, crohns disease, Alzheimer’s, epilepsy, PTSD, Parkinson’s, muscular dystrophy, anxiety, migraines, severe pain, nausea etc etc
 
Ever since the 60s and the hippie craze, I never heard anyone claim that pot was good for pain. But since the puking liberals got pot legalized everywhere, it's suddenly the greatest pain killer since aspirin was discovered. Witness all the clueless dead heads who are heavy users.
The first historical record of medical marijuana was in 1500 bc, so maybe you’re just uniformed on the topic :dunno:
 
Ever since the 60s and the hippie craze, I never heard anyone claim that pot was good for pain. But since the puking liberals got pot legalized everywhere, it's suddenly the greatest pain killer since aspirin was discovered. Witness all the clueless dead heads who are heavy users.
The first historical record of medical marijuana was in 1500 bc, so maybe you’re just uniformed on the topic :dunno:
Does the AMA approve of it? It'is not legal.
 
Ever since the 60s and the hippie craze, I never heard anyone claim that pot was good for pain. But since the puking liberals got pot legalized everywhere, it's suddenly the greatest pain killer since aspirin was discovered. Witness all the clueless dead heads who are heavy users.
The first historical record of medical marijuana was in 1500 bc, so maybe you’re just uniformed on the topic :dunno:
Does the AMA approve of it? It'is not legal.
The the last 60 years it has been illegal, in America, is minuscule to medical marijuanas long history.
 
You know, I know several people in my life who use marijuana to treat pain. My neighbor has a joint disease and it helps him be able to move. I've also met many veterans who have said that it was useful for their PTSD, and because of marijuana, they were able to get off the prescription medications that had some nasty side effects. And, I've seen it work wonders.

My roomie had a vehicle wreck when she was younger, and it messed her joints and back up pretty good and she uses it instead of pain meds because the pain meds give her constipation. She has a script, but she doesn't like taking them.

I've also seen how well some of the THC infused lotions and creams work. Not only do they provide localized pain relief, but there are no psychoactive reactions so you don't get high.

Is marijuana addictive? Not physically. You can smoke and stay stoned 24/7 for a month, then quit suddenly, and the only physical symptoms you will endure is you will no longer be stoned. Some people say that it can become mentally addictive, but so can shopping, exercise, gambling, and other people.

Try drinking a 12 pack to a case each night for 30 days and suddenly quit. Know what is going to happen? You will go through the DT's. Alcohol is physically addictive.

And, as far as marijuana being a "gateway drug"? Again. No. That distinction is held by alcohol. If you would not do something sober because of your beliefs, you won't do it stoned. Cannabis doesn't reduce your inhibitions, but it does make you think and notice things you normally wouldn't, because you notice more details when stoned. Drunk? Alcohol is notorious for reducing people's inhibitions. We've all heard (or done) about situations where people do things they normally wouldn't, like going home with ugly people, saying or doing things they would never do, etc.
 
Ever since the 60s and the hippie craze, I never heard anyone claim that pot was good for pain. But since the puking liberals got pot legalized everywhere, it's suddenly the greatest pain killer since aspirin was discovered. Witness all the clueless dead heads who are heavy users.
The first historical record of medical marijuana was in 1500 bc, so maybe you’re just uniformed on the topic :dunno:
Does the AMA approve of it? It'is not legal.

There are many doctors out there who belong to the AMA and they approve using marijuana for treatment. Only problem is, they can't do that because the FDA still has marijuana on Schedule I, which means no official research can be done on it until it is moved down to Schedule II or lower.
 
The vast majority of those claiming that the vast majority of those using medical pot are phonies cannot prove any of their claims.

While I agree there are those who have used the medical pot laws to obtain pot for recreational marijuana, there are also those who legitimately use pot for medical relief, and that those who believe in Big Government imposing their morality on all of us- believe should not be able to use marijuana for medical relief.
We conservatives don't have any gripes about people who take medical marijuana in pill form for pain. I have two severely wounded combat soldiers I take to VA appointments who take pills for pain and neither one has ever smoked the shit. Our gripe is with people who smoke the shit. Marijuana today is many times stronger than it was 10, 20, 30 years ago and it's dangerous and addictive, and does lead to stronger drugs. Plus, the FDA lists marijuana as an illegal drug regardless of what the Godless states approve. We can attribute all that lawlessness and depravity to that Muslim cocksucker who did a magnificent job of trying ruin the country.

Plenty of you 'conservatives' do have problems with it- see Picaro's posts.

There is no evidence that marijuana does lead to stronger drugs- no more than alcohol or cigarettes do.

The FDA does list marijuana as an illegal drug- regardless of the evidence.

We can attribute veterans in states with legal marijuana laws being able to get some relieve to the work of people who care about veterans and others in pain- and not the godless cocksucker in the White House currently trying to ruin America

Trump is not trying to ruin America but is trying to ruin Progressive liberal OWG Socialists.

The godless cocksucker Trump is trying to further enrich his family at the expense of America- not that his attempt to start a trade war will enrich his family- he just is too stupid to know how much a trade war would hurt Americans.
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It;s not a war when Germany, Japan, Sweden and Korea, among others, flood the US with cars and other goods without a tariff and they either won't buy our cars and other goods unless we pay an outrageously high tariff. Fuckum all.

LOL- you know our tariff is set by the United States right?

The duty rate on cars in the United States is 2%- for pickups and vans its 25%.

Germany and Sweden are part of the EU- and the duty rate for both cars and pickups in Europe is 10%.

From Germany's point of view- America is charging an outrageous tariff to keep out Mercedes Benz vans.

But hey- just keep parroting what Trump says- its what you do best.
 

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