The Manson family was really a story about Jesus

No we're saying you have no clue what Christianity really is about and you have no brain, like a rock has none, because you don't know what your talking about.
Christians are not the haters of anyone.
Christians are not the religion beheading people because they refuse to be Christians.

So you are saying the preacher who word for word used my post here on the refiners fire lesson on TBN 1-2 days ago was calling
someone dumber then a bag of rocks his Lord or was he just plagiarizing from someone dumber then rocks when he claimed his Lord revealed it to him?

Pssst, if rocks are dumb then why do you
revolve your lives around them? Your gold exchange,
your computer is made of substances found in the soil.

Giving a whole new insight & revelation to
The Golem legend.

Now it's your turn: what can you make with a bag of dumb rocks besides broken windows?
IF you know Christianity then tell us which era did your christ live in and what was his Hebrew name? Simple question.

First Century and he was called Yeshua son of Joseph
Wrong, which means you not only wasted your time arguing over rocks, you proved to the forum that you are deflecting.
The only AD era Christ was THEUDAS by the Jordan who's apostles were the martyrs, the christ figure named Yeshu not Y'shua (which is pronounced HaSheva as Y=H sound which is why book of Joshua is called Hoshea) lived in 100bc.
In other words you used my name for your Christ and weren't smart enough to know you were doing it. That makes you dumber then the guy dumber then a bag of rocks.
Thanks for playing the watch who you say things to game. ;-)

Wrong Theudas died in 46AD who was a jewish rebel.
Jesus died in 33 AD
John said his christ was closer to 50 y.o. then 40. They moved his Birthdate to 6bc to fit the Herod story but that too failed to fit the 7bc census and Lysanias that died in 35bc . Jesus is not historical, they use a few historical figures to make him seem to be.

That is your right to believe but it's wrong. Jesus was in his early 30's when he was crucified.

John who?
What is the proof Theudas was real?
Christians do not put emphasis on when his exact birth was ,but most think it was in the fall or early spring.
 
So you are saying the preacher who word for word used my post here on the refiners fire lesson on TBN 1-2 days ago was calling
someone dumber then a bag of rocks his Lord or was he just plagiarizing from someone dumber then rocks when he claimed his Lord revealed it to him?

Pssst, if rocks are dumb then why do you
revolve your lives around them? Your gold exchange,
your computer is made of substances found in the soil.

Giving a whole new insight & revelation to
The Golem legend.

Now it's your turn: what can you make with a bag of dumb rocks besides broken windows?
IF you know Christianity then tell us which era did your christ live in and what was his Hebrew name? Simple question.

First Century and he was called Yeshua son of Joseph
Wrong, which means you not only wasted your time arguing over rocks, you proved to the forum that you are deflecting.
The only AD era Christ was THEUDAS by the Jordan who's apostles were the martyrs, the christ figure named Yeshu not Y'shua (which is pronounced HaSheva as Y=H sound which is why book of Joshua is called Hoshea) lived in 100bc.
In other words you used my name for your Christ and weren't smart enough to know you were doing it. That makes you dumber then the guy dumber then a bag of rocks.
Thanks for playing the watch who you say things to game. ;-)

Wrong Theudas died in 46AD who was a jewish rebel.
Jesus died in 33 AD
John said his christ was closer to 50 y.o. then 40. They moved his Birthdate to 6bc to fit the Herod story but that too failed to fit the 7bc census and Lysanias that died in 35bc . Jesus is not historical, they use a few historical figures to make him seem to be.

That is your right to believe but it's wrong. Jesus was in his early 30's when he was crucified.

John who?
What is the proof Theudas was real?
Christians do not put emphasis on when his exact birth was ,but most think it was in the fall or early spring.

John the apostle (John 8:57 )
The crucified christs were Yehuda the Galilean in 6bc thus In the King Herod and Lysanias era and Theudas in 45ad
the Pilate era, the character spans 3 eras.
The son of Mary called Yeshu was stoned and hanged on Passover around 85bc.
He lived in the JANNAEUS ERA which is where the widows mite story comes from as itcs a Jannaeus coin and his wife was the friend and follower named Salome.

The late Peter Jennings used my research and web site for his "search for the hisrorical Jesus" report series which is what my web site was and is called.
Harvard, Oxford, and Yale professors use my research and arguments. Are they as dumb as rocks?

There are many Christs used to make the Jesus image. The one Rome(called the harlot church) favored in their trinity of christs was Yeshu son of Mary the harlot of around 100bc. He started as a rabinnic trained Jew, but when he fled to Egypt with his mentor Rabbi Yohoshua ben Perachyah to avoid the Jannaeus revolt he must have become disenfranchised and definitely influenced by forbidden Egyptian
mysticsm which against laws of his time got him stoned and *hanged on a tree* as the NT accounts not crucified.
When he returned, he brought back forbidden maggis and Egyptian underworld beliefs in which case his beliefs and teachings were Luciferous in nature and no longer Jewish and those teachings blended well with the many sun cults and death cults Rome was converging into a one world religion. The NT and iconographs are full of
cryptic sayings regarding PHYSICAL (luciferous) light and Baal harvest seed analogies used for the seed harvest scams you see even today.
The other 2 main Christs in the image were revolters and they were crucified.
One Yehuda the Galilean in the Herod(died4bc)
Lysanias (died 35bc) era was a tax revolter, the other died in 45ad the Pilate era was political revolter Theudas by he Jordan who's apostles were the martyrs.

When you have a combined character given an image of a man it will combine and contradict 2 or more of the blames(Rome & elect of the Jews), the method of sentencing(hanged & crucified)
2 job professions (carpenter & fisherman)
2 hometowns (Capernaum and Nazareth),
2 death ages (closer to 50 says John but 33 is taught), era he lived (Herod and Lysanias is another era from Pilates AD era) and most important combined figures are given new names. All the combined apostles and christs become new names.

*hanged on a tree source:*
Historical accts of Yeshu of 100bc was he was stoned and hanged at passover(rare event cause it was a holiday), hanging was the punishment in that era.
The NT sources Mark and John Passover sentencing and hanged as the process:

Acts 5:30 "Jesus, whom ye slew (stoned)and hanged on a tree" Acts 10:39 "whom they slew and hanged on a tree" Acts 13:29 "they took him down from the tree" 1 Peter 2:24 "who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree" Galatians 3:13 "Christ... being made a curse upon us... Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree"
 
So not yet 50 yrs old means an exact age to date anything?

It was a common saying back then for anyone who was younger than 50.
 
No the Yale professors are looking for proof and evidence rather than belief in Jesus.
When you believe he is with you always throughout life to guide you. That is the true Christian.

Seems to me that all three religions have much in common .
Rather than looking for information and facts and bickering the three should vocus on working together for the better of humanity.
Not fighting amongst ourselves.
 
So not yet 50 yrs old means an exact age to date anything?

It was a common saying back then for anyone who was younger than 50.
Nope, say hello to your pet rock!
Nobody else could give you such an amswer. Why would they say closer to 50 when 40 is closer to 33 and even that would be stupid to say.
45ad fits the closer to 50 premise of one of the figures used for the creation of the Jesus image.
Remember Ezekiel 28 warns the son of "perdition"(i.e. to fall to the pit -acts 2:27,
1 peter 3:19) would be a CREATED IMAGE of a man deemed perfect (sinless image).
-Ezekiel 28:15

You are describing 3 seperate christ figures
from 3 seperate eras and mixing them and giving this image it's new name and borrowed Baal's birthday Dec 25th.
Paul and James were fighting over each describing a different christ then they were.
And John of Patmos said His christ was emulating son of man (like unto son of man) not that he was son of man to come.
-Rev 1:13
You never refuted anything Biblical backed with sources or historical nor have you Teshuva for your sin against me.
I'd say you should bow out gracefully now before you commit too much to your facade and charade.
 
Agree with you on unifying through similarities
like my similarities of religions sunday sermons posts here a year or so ago, however, what is sometimes assumed as similar is miss perceived by not knowing the teachings of other cultures through their use of words and precepts they carry.
Rome thought it a good idea to unify everyone into one world religion under itcs authority to control kingdoms and taxes under the guise of their god's commands and tithes to their many cultures gods. This was mixing both knowledge that was good and evil.
So what seems like a good tging to do unifying is not always whatcs hest especially when you continue with darkness (lies and ignorance).
AsVatican (the Vatican)=666
Vaticanas(vatican unity movement)=666
The unified faithsof Rome in many christs and mythologies was now called "Catholics"=666
Their unified story called "Holy Bible"=666
The father(baal) and son (morning star) as one...
Baal Jesus=666 as the number of his name.

Your own faith warns Rome will lift high the image of a false prophet and create a one world religion and now you know, they did and even the elect were deceived by that image.
To deny it is to deny your own religions expectations, everything described which took place in 70ad.
 
Using Blackrooks standard:
Charlie Manson said he was Jesus, well according to Christian reasoning they can't argue against it without arguing against themselves and their own beliefs.
The logic used is merely through silly fallacious claims to Jesus being Messiah based merely on self testimony & saying he fit 300 prophecy, most of which aren't even messianic or properly read and stated. Some are even comically based on NT post dated script instead of OT.

Using this logic if Charles Manson fit 300 characteristics of Jesus without manipulating the characteristics or cheating like people do in emulating Moshiach then Charles Manson has to be Jesus according to Christian standards of reasoning. And since Charles Manson self trstified he was and does fulfill the coming of Jesus in over 300 ways then Jesus came back bringing division & as a murderer as he said he would in Matthew, Thomas, and Peter.
Since Jesus fulfilled over 300 verses on Satan then he must be Satan of the Bible.
Therefore Christianity standards and reasoning suggest Satan was Jesus and he came back as Charles Manson and your arguing this fact would suggest you are admitting Christianity's logic and reasoning on Moshiach is skewed.

Therfore moshiach claims must be forfeited and the standard to decipher MOshiach has to be re-evaluated and rediscovered by fulfillment of legitimate expectations that are Torah based not oral pagan borrowed traditions and self testimony.
Conclusion" Jesus either wasn't messiah like you thought or by your standards he had to be Satan, either way your character becomes the adversary and thief, thus either way he can be concluded as Satan.

FACT: Jesus is depicted like a long haired hippy in sandles.
Charles Manson claimed to be Jesus and was a hippy in sandles, we must take Manson for his word in even standard to Christians taking Jesus self testified word and claims.
Fact: they say Jesus is son of man & Charles is Man/son.
Fact: Jesus family said he was crazy
Manson and his family is crazy.
Jesus was a murderer from the begining who promised to not bring peace but to cause opposite through division describing a world inferno. Manson did the same with his race war he planed division chaos and worlds end in the same manner setting it a blaze.
Fact: Jesus asked his followers to disregard their parents for sake of him being their new family as did Manson.
Jesus lived in a shack so did Manson.
Jesus hated the Romans, Manson hsted Roman Polanski. Jesus took mushrooms as did his followers according to found texts, Manson did as well as his followers.
Cult leaderJesus had his apostles Manson had his cult flock called his family. Jesus lived and roamed the desert, so did Manson.

Using Christian logic & standards
Charlie Manson Was Jesus and Jesus was Lucifer cause all the verses on Lucifer were 100% fulfilled by the first fallen Christ.

To disagree is to admit the standard used to call him Moshiach is flawed making him Lucifer anyway.... this is called Check mate...
because every excuse maneuver you make out of this still means I got your king.
My kNight to your King= Check Mate!
That's why I use that term, so you'd notice your argument backed you in a corner with 0 excuses and maneuvers left.
All you can do is
1)cheat
2)pretend your mom is calling and run away
3) throw the chess board to the ground and have an ad hominem hissy fit like a child.
So far everyone seems to choose option 3.
I've met rocks that were smarter than you.

So you talk to rocks do you?
I thought pet rocks was just a late 70's fad?
Learn to read. I don't talk to them. I just said they were smarter.
 
No the Yale professors are looking for proof and evidence rather than belief in Jesus.
When you believe he is with you always throughout life to guide you. That is the true Christian.

Seems to me that all three religions have much in common .
Rather than looking for information and facts and bickering the three should vocus on working together for the better of humanity.
Not fighting amongst ourselves.
It would probably be best if you didn't reply to him anymore. Just leave him here, so he can talk to himself. No one else is.
 
The swastica is the crooked Cross... Hitler saw it when he went to catholic school..He remembered his lessons well..The thousand year Reich .. The thousand year reign of Christ etc etc..You do not understand Blackrook... Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it... The hatred of the Jews is found and taught in the New Testament Hashev is only pointing it out...You think he is full of hate you are incorrect...If he was full of hate he would leave you and others to wallow in your mistaken beliefs..People that want to better others teach them a better way to live life you have it backwards....
Total horseshit.

The swastika is a broken cross, literally..but it is a symbol that predates the cross.
Hitler hated Christianity as much as he hated Judaism, he viewed both were a threat to him. Today's progressives, the heirs of Hitler's progressive policies, see those faiths as a threat.
 
No the Yale professors are looking for proof and evidence rather than belief in Jesus.
When you believe he is with you always throughout life to guide you. That is the true Christian.

Seems to me that all three religions have much in common .
Rather than looking for information and facts and bickering the three should vocus on working together for the better of humanity.
Not fighting amongst ourselves.
It would probably be best if you didn't reply to him anymore. Just leave him here, so he can talk to himself. No one else is.

Have you seen any since July 15th ?
 
The swastica is the crooked Cross... Hitler saw it when he went to catholic school..He remembered his lessons well..The thousand year Reich .. The thousand year reign of Christ etc etc..You do not understand Blackrook... Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it... The hatred of the Jews is found and taught in the New Testament Hashev is only pointing it out...You think he is full of hate you are incorrect...If he was full of hate he would leave you and others to wallow in your mistaken beliefs..People that want to better others teach them a better way to live life you have it backwards....
Total horseshit.

The swastika is a broken cross, literally..but it is a symbol that predates the cross.
Hitler hated Christianity as much as he hated Judaism, he viewed both were a threat to him. Today's progressives, the heirs of Hitler's progressive policies, see those faiths as a threat.
They love their sin more than their Creator. That is the root cause of why people reject Christ and persecute Christians. Because we, with the help of Scripture, convict them of their sinful condition. They can't deal with that. It reminds them that they have made the wrong choice and will suffer for all eternity because of it.
 
The swastica is the crooked Cross... Hitler saw it when he went to catholic school..He remembered his lessons well..The thousand year Reich .. The thousand year reign of Christ etc etc..You do not understand Blackrook... Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it... The hatred of the Jews is found and taught in the New Testament Hashev is only pointing it out...You think he is full of hate you are incorrect...If he was full of hate he would leave you and others to wallow in your mistaken beliefs..People that want to better others teach them a better way to live life you have it backwards....
Total horseshit.

The swastika is a broken cross, literally..but it is a symbol that predates the cross.
Hitler hated Christianity as much as he hated Judaism, he viewed both were a threat to him. Today's progressives, the heirs of Hitler's progressive policies, see those faiths as a threat.
They love their sin more than their Creator. That is the root cause of why people reject Christ and persecute Christians. Because we, with the help of Scripture, convict them of their sinful condition. They can't deal with that. It reminds them that they have made the wrong choice and will suffer for all eternity because of it.

The fact that you think Christians are persecuted over pointing out flaws in their reasoning means you inadvertantly admit they've been persecuting non Christians for what they think in their mind is opinions that should be expressed. The difference is Christianity were the ones who killed anyone exposing their charade and books burned for pointing out their contradictions. People like Giordano Bruno burned for opinions that were true all along. Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, Holocaust, Anti Semitic attacks even in this day and age, daily harassment including occasional death threats over mere pointing out contradictions and double standards including being done over posted Bible Verses. Over thousands of wars and 50 million murders done by Christians persecuting intellegence, that is Persecution By Christians not of Christians.
If you can't defend a sWord out of the
mouth of your critics without using a literal sword then your violence and intollerance is an admission that the problem is not your critics, but in your way of handling criticsm & the way you have no truth to defend and need to deflect the issues by not answering to them, but displacing blame instead.

And you have some nerve mentioning scripture, nothing can get you banned
faster from a Christian Bible forum then posting just scripture that calls out issues with the teachings. Nothing get's thrown under the bus more then your own Bible & words when posted in a way that exposes the charade.
 
The swastica is the crooked Cross... Hitler saw it when he went to catholic school..He remembered his lessons well..The thousand year Reich .. The thousand year reign of Christ etc etc..You do not understand Blackrook... Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it... The hatred of the Jews is found and taught in the New Testament Hashev is only pointing it out...You think he is full of hate you are incorrect...If he was full of hate he would leave you and others to wallow in your mistaken beliefs..People that want to better others teach them a better way to live life you have it backwards....
Total horseshit.

The swastika is a broken cross, literally..but it is a symbol that predates the cross.
Hitler hated Christianity as much as he hated Judaism, he viewed both were a threat to him. Today's progressives, the heirs of Hitler's progressive policies, see those faiths as a threat.
You are sadly mistaken about many things esp the swastika and Hitler's beliefs...Although Hitler did not practice religion in a churchly sense, he certainly believed in the Bible's God. Raised as Catholic he went to a monastery school and, interestingly, walked everyday past a stone arch which was carved the monastery's coat of arms which included a swastika. As a young boy, Hitler's most ardent goal was to become a priest. Much of his philosophy came from the Bible, and more influentially, from the Christian Social movement. (The German Christian Social movement, remarkably, resembles the Christian Right movement in America today.) Many have questioned Hitler's stand on Christianity. Although he fought against certain Catholic priests who opposed him for political reasons, his belief in God and country never left him. Many Christians throughout history have opposed Christian priests for various reasons; this does not necessarily make one against one's own Christian beliefs. Nor did the Vatican's Pope & bishops ever disown him; in fact they blessed him! As evidence to his claimed Christianity, he said:

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.

-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)
 
The swastica is the crooked Cross... Hitler saw it when he went to catholic school..He remembered his lessons well..The thousand year Reich .. The thousand year reign of Christ etc etc..You do not understand Blackrook... Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it... The hatred of the Jews is found and taught in the New Testament Hashev is only pointing it out...You think he is full of hate you are incorrect...If he was full of hate he would leave you and others to wallow in your mistaken beliefs..People that want to better others teach them a better way to live life you have it backwards....
Total horseshit.

The swastika is a broken cross, literally..but it is a symbol that predates the cross.
Hitler hated Christianity as much as he hated Judaism, he viewed both were a threat to him. Today's progressives, the heirs of Hitler's progressive policies, see those faiths as a threat.
They love their sin more than their Creator. That is the root cause of why people reject Christ and persecute Christians. Because we, with the help of Scripture, convict them of their sinful condition. They can't deal with that. It reminds them that they have made the wrong choice and will suffer for all eternity because of it.

The fact that you think Christians are persecuted over pointing out flaws in their reasoning means you inadvertantly admit they've been persecuting non Christians for what they think in their mind is opinions that should be expressed. The difference is Christianity were the ones who killed anyone exposing their charade and books burned for pointing out their contradictions. People like Giordano Bruno burned for opinions that were true all along. Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, Holocaust, Anti Semitic attacks even in this day and age, daily harassment including occasional death threats over mere pointing out contradictions and double standards including being done over posted Bible Verses. Over thousands of wars and 50 million murders done by Christians persecuting intellegence, that is Persecution By Christians not of Christians.
If you can't defend a sWord out of the
mouth of your critics without using a literal sword then your violence and intollerance is an admission that the problem is not your critics, but in your way of handling criticsm & the way you have no truth to defend and need to deflect the issues by not answering to them, but displacing blame instead.

And you have some nerve mentioning scripture, nothing can get you banned
faster from a Christian Bible forum then posting just scripture that calls out issues with the teachings. Nothing get's thrown under the bus more then your own Bible & words when posted in a way that exposes the charade.
You truly are a clueless moron. All those bad things you claim that Christians have done is a bunch of BS. A Christian is one who follows Christ. That means obeying Gods word. Now, show me where the Bible tells people to act the way these "Christians" acted. You can't. In fact, the Bible teaches the opposite. It tells us to love your neighbor. You seem incapable of rational thought, since it is obvious that someone is not a Christian simply because they say they are. A Christian obeys Gods word.
 
Quote:"Christian is one who follows Christ."
So did your christ call smart people morons for the very same reason being outed in the post?
He is claimed to have called people
"fools for Christ" but did he call people morons who didn't believe the Nazarene beliefs that rays of light between the sun and earth was God?

If a Christian is one who follows Christ then which Christ?
And that means you are as hateful;

Jesus hated families (Luke 8:19-21,Luke 14:26,33,Luke 18:29-30, Matt 10:34-37), hated life (1 John 2:15-17) and this earth and mankind (2 Peter 3:10, Mat 10: 34-40 & Thomas 16, 2 Thessalonians 1:8), hated the Pharisee , hated Woman (1 Cor. 11, 1 Timothy 2:11-15 & all over the book of Thomas), hated his brethren (seen by what he caused to them), hated people with disabilities(Mark 9:14-19,Matt 9:32-33, 12:22 & Luke 11:14) hated gentiles (Matt15:26), hated his own chosen town of Capernaum (Mat.11:23), thus must not have Knoweth G-d according to 1John 4:8
and that means Christians
must not have Knoweth G-d according to 1John 4:8
 
Quote:"Christian is one who follows Christ."
So did your christ call smart people morons for the very same reason being outed in the post?
He is claimed to have called people
"fools for Christ" but did he call people morons who didn't believe the Nazarene beliefs that rays of light between the sun and earth was God?

If a Christian is one who follows Christ then which Christ?
And that means you are as hateful;

Jesus hated families (Luke 8:19-21,Luke 14:26,33,Luke 18:29-30, Matt 10:34-37), hated life (1 John 2:15-17) and this earth and mankind (2 Peter 3:10, Mat 10: 34-40 & Thomas 16, 2 Thessalonians 1:8), hated the Pharisee , hated Woman (1 Cor. 11, 1 Timothy 2:11-15 & all over the book of Thomas), hated his brethren (seen by what he caused to them), hated people with disabilities(Mark 9:14-19,Matt 9:32-33, 12:22 & Luke 11:14) hated gentiles (Matt15:26), hated his own chosen town of Capernaum (Mat.11:23), thus must not have Knoweth G-d according to 1John 4:8
and that means Christians
must not have Knoweth G-d according to 1John 4:8
Man. You really are stupid. Just plain bonkers. There is no truth in you. You just lie and lie and lie some more. I'm done with you. Bye.
 
Quote:"Christian is one who follows Christ."
So did your christ call smart people morons for the very same reason being outed in the post?
He is claimed to have called people
"fools for Christ" but did he call people morons who didn't believe the Nazarene beliefs that rays of light between the sun and earth was God?

If a Christian is one who follows Christ then which Christ?
And that means you are as hateful;

Jesus hated families (Luke 8:19-21,Luke 14:26,33,Luke 18:29-30, Matt 10:34-37), hated life (1 John 2:15-17) and this earth and mankind (2 Peter 3:10, Mat 10: 34-40 & Thomas 16, 2 Thessalonians 1:8), hated the Pharisee , hated Woman (1 Cor. 11, 1 Timothy 2:11-15 & all over the book of Thomas), hated his brethren (seen by what he caused to them), hated people with disabilities(Mark 9:14-19,Matt 9:32-33, 12:22 & Luke 11:14) hated gentiles (Matt15:26), hated his own chosen town of Capernaum (Mat.11:23), thus must not have Knoweth G-d according to 1John 4:8
and that means Christians
must not have Knoweth G-d according to 1John 4:8
Man. You really are stupid. Just plain bonkers. There is no truth in you. You just lie and lie and lie some more. I'm done with you. Bye.

1)that was an ad hominem & not a refutation or adequate response, but it did help prove my points.
2)your false testimony response contradicts the Bible
(Dan 10:21) which as I stated before, you are willing to throw under the bus for sake of pride. I rest my case-the fallen star made them like wormwood (bitter poison).
 

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