The majority of the mentally ill are harmless

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    President Obama said something during his second debate that offended me. He said that guns should be kept out of the hands of the mentally ill.
    That statement suggested that every mentally ill person is capable of violence and that isn't true. I'm mentally ill and I'm not violent. I've never committed a crime. I've never even gotten a jay walking ticket. My mom is also mentally ill and she's not violent either. She's one of the sweetest people alive.
    Whether Obama believes it or not, the majority of the mentally ill are not violent. Yes, it's true that some mentally ill people are violent and those who show any signs of violent behavior shouldn't be allowed to own guns.
    But Obama didn't say that we should keep guns out of the hands of certain mentally ill people. He said that they should kept out of the hands of all mentally ill people.
    There are harmless mentally ill people who own guns. If Obama wins again, they may lose them. If that happens, they will be unable to protect themselves and their families.
    Obama tried to gain more votes with his second debate but he lost one. And if other mentally ill people were offended, he may lose more. What Obama doesn't seem to understand is that the mentally ill can vote also.
     

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    Not to mention Mentally ill is about as vague and broad a criteria as you could get

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn0mgisVhgM]DSM 5: Psychiatry's Deadliest Scam - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    I think Obama was referring to Repiblicans ;)
     
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    The ATF form asks if you have undergone psychiatric treatment and I assume a check in the yes box prevents the mentally ill from (legally) purchasing a weapon. There was a glitch in the system when the Va. Tech shooter purchased weapons. The ATF form relied on a truthful answer because health records were sealed. The insane shooter was able to lie on the ATF form and bought himself an arsenal. They say the glitch has been corrected.
     
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    Unless it was recently changed the form ask no such question. Federal law restricts you if you have been committed to mental hospital by proper authority or if you have been adjudged mentally incompetent.
     
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    Yeah prevents mentally ill from purchasing any more weapons but does not impound the ones they now have....
     
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    Once again for the slow and stupid. Only those JUDGED by competent authority can be denied their second amendment rights.

    Usually requires a Judge.
     
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    Mentally ill people have the potential (greater than others) to cause harm to others or to themselves, and guns should be kept from them.
     
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    How do they firgure out whether you are violent or not?
     
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    Good point.

    Here's a thought...far as I know there is NO LAW that actually prevents anybody with a Dx of mental illness from owning guns.


    Do any of you actually KNOW OF any state that has such a law?
     

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