The Looming Threat of Socialism

[Dr Grump]

Lot's of discrimination in New Zealand against the Maori....

Is there? Are you sure about that?

Current Maori unemployment rate is nearly 15% while the Pākehā enjoy a 3.6% unemployment rate
Hmmmmmmmmm

It's mainly due to lack of education. Still, their unemployment rate used to be a lot worse.

Again, where am I denying NZ has its fair share of problems?

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Lot's of discrimination in New Zealand against the Maori....

Is there? Are you sure about that?

Current Maori unemployment rate is nearly 15% while the Pākehā enjoy a 3.6% unemployment rate
Hmmmmmmmmm

It's mainly due to lack of education. Still, their unemployment rate used to be a lot worse.

Again, where am I denying NZ has its fair share of problems?

Don't throw stones in a glass house Grump......and excuses are like assholes...everyone's got one and most of the time they stink.

 

[Dr Grump]

Send an email to Obama and Hillary expressing your displeasure Mr. Isolationist....otherwise butt out.

Why should I? They're not the sabre rattlers....

I'll butt out if you stop talking about Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Venezuela, Cuba...yadda, yadda, yadda....

except hillary voted for Iraq, as did most of Obama's staff. and Obama's stance on Cuba virtually the same as every president since Kennedy.

Only because they thought it had WMDs...
As for Cuba - still passes as interference IMO. Where did I say Obama was immune from criticism...

 

[PatekPhilippe]

And what is fucked up about my "Utopia"? I'd be surprised if you knew a damn thing about it,

Consider your questions answered.

 

[Dr Grump]

Don't throw stones in a glass house Grump......and excuses are like assholes...everyone's got one and most of the time they stink.

So you don't know if Maori are discriminated against or not, you just post BS? Nothing new there.

As I said, don't open your big yaps at the rest of the world and maybe we won't notice you.

What excuses am I making and about what?

Y'know, for someone with such a big mouth, you sure as shit can't back things up. Just another loser troll neocon....ah well, plenty of them in these parts

 

[elvis]

Why should I? They're not the sabre rattlers....

I'll butt out if you stop talking about Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Venezuela, Cuba...yadda, yadda, yadda....

except hillary voted for Iraq, as did most of Obama's staff. and Obama's stance on Cuba virtually the same as every president since Kennedy.

Only because they thought it had WMDs...
As for Cuba - still passes as interference IMO. Where did I say Obama was immune from criticism...

you said obama and hillary were not sabre rattlers. hillary beat the drums of war with everyone else and continued to do so regarding Iran. and yeah it's interference that I can't buy cuban cigars without threat of huge fines.

 

[Dr Grump]

And what is fucked up about my "Utopia"? I'd be surprised if you knew a damn thing about it,

Consider your questions answered.

Naw, I just consider you TROLLING...

 

[Dr Grump]

except hillary voted for Iraq, as did most of Obama's staff. and Obama's stance on Cuba virtually the same as every president since Kennedy.

Only because they thought it had WMDs...
As for Cuba - still passes as interference IMO. Where did I say Obama was immune from criticism...

you said obama and hillary were not sabre rattlers. hillary beat the drums of war with everyone else and continued to do so regarding Iran. and yeah it's interference that I can't buy cuban cigars without threat of huge fines.

hhhmmm, well I don't see her beating any war drums now. And she has mellowed on Iran. But, again, she should keep her nose out.

Exactly re cigars.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Why should I? They're not the sabre rattlers....

I'll butt out if you stop talking about Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Venezuela, Cuba...yadda, yadda, yadda....

except hillary voted for Iraq, as did most of Obama's staff. and Obama's stance on Cuba virtually the same as every president since Kennedy.

Only because they thought it had WMDs...
As for Cuba - still passes as interference IMO. Where did I say Obama was immune from criticism...

ya...voting FOR WAR isn't sabre rattling...it's like picking flowers in a peaceful meadow....

 

[PatekPhilippe]

And what is fucked up about my "Utopia"? I'd be surprised if you knew a damn thing about it,

Consider your questions answered.

Naw, I just consider you TROLLING...

AWWWW whatsa matter crybaby...don't like getting it shoved back in your face do you?

Get over it.

 

[Dr Grump]

ya...voting FOR WAR isn't sabre rattling...it's like picking flowers in a peaceful meadow....

Depends. If somebody is who is in office and supposed to be trustworthy tells me somebody has WMDs pointed in my direction and is willing to use them, and I have irrefutable evidence of such, you bet I'm gonna vote for war. However, if that 'trustworthy' person turns out to be a sack of shit, then what can you do.

Not that that excuses Hillary. A person with an IQ of 70 could see how wrong it was...

 

[PatekPhilippe]

What excuses am I making and about what?

B B BU BU BUT BUT it's the education...that's why we discriminate against the Maoris

Your pathetic.....

 

[Dr Grump]

What excuses am I making and about what?

B B BU BU BUT BUT it's the education...that's why we discriminate against the Maoris

Your pathetic.....

Er, it is. How are they discriminated against. Take your time.....

 

[elvis]

ya...voting FOR WAR isn't sabre rattling...it's like picking flowers in a peaceful meadow....

Depends. If somebody is who is in office and supposed to be trustworthy tells me somebody has WMDs pointed in my direction and is willing to use them, and I have irrefutable evidence of such, you bet I'm gonna vote for war. However, if that 'trustworthy' person turns out to be a sack of shit, then what can you do.

Not that that excuses Hillary. A person with an IQ of 70 could see how wrong it was...

Are you referring to Joe Biden, who was head of the senate intelligence committee at the time?

 

[Dr Grump]

AWWWW whatsa matter crybaby...don't like getting it shoved back in your face do you?

Get over it.

Well, when you shove something back in my face worth crying about I'll let you know. At the moment you're a dollar short and a day late....and not that bright...

 

[Dr Grump]

Are you referring to Joe Biden, who was head of the senate intelligence committee at the time?

Nope, referring to Rumsfeld and Bush and the other cabal. Joe can take his lumps too as far as I'm concerned. Bunch of lemmings the lot of them...

You see, you can try and make this partisan as you like. That dog won't hunt with me. Some Dems need a kick up the arse too

 

[elvis]

Depends. If somebody is who is in office and supposed to be trustworthy tells me somebody has WMDs pointed in my direction and is willing to use them, and I have irrefutable evidence of such, you bet I'm gonna vote for war. However, if that 'trustworthy' person turns out to be a sack of shit, then what can you do.

Not that that excuses Hillary. A person with an IQ of 70 could see how wrong it was...

Are you referring to Joe Biden, who was head of the senate intelligence committee at the time?

Nope, referring to Rumsfeld and Bush and the other cabal. Joe can take his lumps too as far as I'm concerned. Bunch of lemmings the lot of them...

You see, you can try and make this partisan as you like. That dog won't hunt with me. Some Dems need a kick up the arse too[/QUOTE]

I just don't like it when dems try to act like their side was innocent. Didn't Biden have the same intel that Bush had?

 

[Dr Grump]

I just don't like it when dems try to act like their side was innocent. Didn't Biden have the same intel that Bush had?

Possibly. But where does the buck stop?

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Nope, referring to Rumsfeld and Bush and the other cabal.

You seem to be a bit confused on how our government works. Bush can shoot off his mouth all he wants...but it takes Congress to pass laws authorizing the President to conduct a war and fund it. Now if we look at who controlled the Senate in 2002 when the Iraq War Resolution was passed you will see that placing the entire blame on Bush and Rumsfeld is in fact PARTISAN...the very thing you want everyone to think you hate so much.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

I just don't like it when dems try to act like their side was innocent. Didn't Biden have the same intel that Bush had?

Possibly. But where does the buck stop?

The proverbial BUCK stops at Congress. You see...they are the check and balance to the Presidency. That's what our constitution says....