This is simple and old stuff that has been around for thousands of years and yet we are so sophisticated today that we have lost sight of this and other similar simple things. We all know that one cannot count in finite, non-zero increments and reach an infinite value. There is no last last value to the count, and so it is endless and the 'infinite' amount never acheived. Simple stuff, and yet people today seem to not realize that the inverse is also true. One cannot start at an infinite value and count down to a finite value, as there is no starting point to the sequence. Again, simple stuff. It is also true that one cannot progress from an infinite negative value and count forward to 0 or any other finite value, as again there is no starting point. So, by this we know that the flow of time and space cannot have been eternal and there must be a starting point at some distance back in time or else we could not have arrived at the present moment in time. To hypothesize that there is just a bigger increment of endless cycles of time repeating itself, or an infinite series of Big Bangs each spawning another does no more than kick the eternal quandry down the road a bit and fails to explain how we are here in the present from an infinitely distant past. Thus there must be some kind of force that exists outside time and space from which time and space have orignated at some point in the past. This eternal force has no predecessor because it is the origin of time and so there is no 'before' this eternal force, as 'before' requires time in order to precede the eternal force. Thus there must be something eternal outside time and space that has the energy to spawn all of this universe and probably many more universes that we have no knowledge of.