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And you can see why I have that liar on ignore.White Southern Conservatives started the KKK.They just happen to be Democrats or Republicans depending on which side is for the negros.
Pante, rolmao, typical progressive liberal spin with no proof again...
"If the Affordable Care Act imposed a mandate, it was ordering people to buy insurance, and nobody likes to be told what to do by the government. But if it was a tax, then it actually gave people a choice: Pay a small tax, or buy health insurance. And if you actually read the bill, that's exactly what the law said. The mandate was directed at "taxpayer". Every taxpayer not otherwise exempted had to indicate on their tax return if they had health insurance, and if they didn't, they had to pay a small penalty."
Tax power: The little argument that could - CNN.com
and
FactCheck.org : How Much Is the Obamacare ‘Tax’?
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The law was not re-written. The mandate was de facto a tax, no matter what anyone called it.
You can call a horse a Studebaker, but it doesn't stop being a horse.
But it was only a tax when the penalty had to be CALLED a tax. Congress chose its words carefully, but the majority reworded them to force fit their conclusion.
And in a fit of dishonesty, the majority THEN said that the tax WASN'T a tax for purposes of the anti-injunction Act. Their basis? Congress is presumed to choose its words carefully and for a reason.
Such blatant glaring sophistry.
No wonder you libs endorse it.
That doesn't refute what I said.
But it was only a tax when the penalty had to be CALLED a tax. Congress chose its words carefully, but the majority reworded them to force fit their conclusion.
And in a fit of dishonesty, the majority THEN said that the tax WASN'T a tax for purposes of the anti-injunction Act. Their basis? Congress is presumed to choose its words carefully and for a reason.
Such blatant glaring sophistry.
No wonder you libs endorse it.
That doesn't refute what I said.
he won't refute because he can't.
But it was only a tax when the penalty had to be CALLED a tax. Congress chose its words carefully, but the majority reworded them to force fit their conclusion.
And in a fit of dishonesty, the majority THEN said that the tax WASN'T a tax for purposes of the anti-injunction Act. Their basis? Congress is presumed to choose its words carefully and for a reason.
Such blatant glaring sophistry.
No wonder you libs endorse it.
That doesn't refute what I said.
What you said is refuted by what CJ Roberts had already said, ya dishonest hack dip shit.
The law WAS re-written.
Even the dissent noted it. And every person (even Kennedy) on the dissent is legions smarter than you. But more importantly, they got it right. You have it wrong.
That doesn't refute what I said.
What you said is refuted by what CJ Roberts had already said, ya dishonest hack dip shit.
The law WAS re-written.
Even the dissent noted it. And every person (even Kennedy) on the dissent is legions smarter than you. But more importantly, they got it right. You have it wrong.
The dissent got it wrong. Period. The mandate is a tax that you get an exemption from if you have healthcare insurance.
What you said is refuted by what CJ Roberts had already said, ya dishonest hack dip shit.
The law WAS re-written.
Even the dissent noted it. And every person (even Kennedy) on the dissent is legions smarter than you. But more importantly, they got it right. You have it wrong.
The dissent got it wrong. Period. The mandate is a tax that you get an exemption from if you have healthcare insurance.
The mandate is a penalty imposed in the form of a tax since it uses the tax code to collect the penalty. Roberts took that as a valid basis to be a judicial activist and re-write what the Congress alone had the authority to write.
Penalties are always imposed only when the governed fail to do what the sovereign commands, you dim wit.
The dissent got it entirely correct.
Period.
What you said is refuted by what CJ Roberts had already said, ya dishonest hack dip shit.
The law WAS re-written.
Even the dissent noted it. And every person (even Kennedy) on the dissent is legions smarter than you. But more importantly, they got it right. You have it wrong.
The dissent got it wrong. Period. The mandate is a tax that you get an exemption from if you have healthcare insurance.
The mandate is a penalty imposed in the form of a tax since it uses the tax code to collect the penalty. Roberts took that as a valid basis to be a judicial activist and re-write what the Congress alone had the authority to write.
Penalties are always imposed only when the governed fail to do what the sovereign commands, you dim wit.
The dissent got it entirely correct.
Period.
O, wouldn't it be loverly?The dissent got it wrong. Period. The mandate is a tax that you get an exemption from if you have healthcare insurance.
The mandate is a penalty imposed in the form of a tax since it uses the tax code to collect the penalty. Roberts took that as a valid basis to be a judicial activist and re-write what the Congress alone had the authority to write.
Penalties are always imposed only when the governed fail to do what the sovereign commands, you dim wit.
The dissent got it entirely correct.
Period.
So just for the record you are in principle declaring that all the people who call the Obama mandate the 'Obama tax', or the biggest tax increase in history,
all full of shit, correct?
The dissent got it wrong. Period. The mandate is a tax that you get an exemption from if you have healthcare insurance.
The mandate is a penalty imposed in the form of a tax since it uses the tax code to collect the penalty. Roberts took that as a valid basis to be a judicial activist and re-write what the Congress alone had the authority to write.
Penalties are always imposed only when the governed fail to do what the sovereign commands, you dim wit.
The dissent got it entirely correct.
Period.
So just for the record you are in principle declaring that all the people who call the Obama mandate the 'Obama tax', or the biggest tax increase in history,
all full of shit, correct?
To go back to the OP's original point:
To be constitutional, the mandate only has to satisfy one measure of constitutionality.
It does not have to satisfy all possible arguments for constitutionality.
What you said is refuted by what CJ Roberts had already said, ya dishonest hack dip shit.
The law WAS re-written.
Even the dissent noted it. And every person (even Kennedy) on the dissent is legions smarter than you. But more importantly, they got it right. You have it wrong.
The dissent got it wrong. Period. The mandate is a tax that you get an exemption from if you have healthcare insurance.
The mandate is a penalty imposed in the form of a tax since it uses the tax code to collect the penalty. Roberts took that as a valid basis to be a judicial activist and re-write what the Congress alone had the authority to write.
Penalties are always imposed only when the governed fail to do what the sovereign commands, you dim wit.
The dissent got it entirely correct.
Period.
The dissent got it wrong. Period. The mandate is a tax that you get an exemption from if you have healthcare insurance.
The mandate is a penalty imposed in the form of a tax since it uses the tax code to collect the penalty. Roberts took that as a valid basis to be a judicial activist and re-write what the Congress alone had the authority to write.
Penalties are always imposed only when the governed fail to do what the sovereign commands, you dim wit.
The dissent got it entirely correct.
Period.
Congress has the mandate requiring a shared responsibility payment, which Congress labels a penalty. Congress has the payment/penalty imposed in the form of a tax, since the mandate uses the tax code to collect the payment/penalty.
Roberts cited precedent and more for why he ruled the way he did. You just don't happen to agree with the logic of the argument, so you rant and rave and throw ad hominem attacks and....
The mandate is a penalty imposed in the form of a tax since it uses the tax code to collect the penalty. Roberts took that as a valid basis to be a judicial activist and re-write what the Congress alone had the authority to write.
Penalties are always imposed only when the governed fail to do what the sovereign commands, you dim wit.
The dissent got it entirely correct.
Period.
Congress has the mandate requiring a shared responsibility payment, which Congress labels a penalty. Congress has the payment/penalty imposed in the form of a tax, since the mandate uses the tax code to collect the payment/penalty.
Roberts cited precedent and more for why he ruled the way he did. You just don't happen to agree with the logic of the argument, so you rant and rave and throw ad hominem attacks and....
It's funny to see you alluding to "precedent" since you wouldn't know if he was citing "Mary Had a Little Lamb" as his "support."
No, you ignorant dishonest dip shit. I am pointing out that the CJ wrote a dishonest judicial opinion.
You like the outcome so you ignorantly support it, pretending to even understand it.
But you don't.
Congress has the mandate requiring a shared responsibility payment, which Congress labels a penalty. Congress has the payment/penalty imposed in the form of a tax, since the mandate uses the tax code to collect the payment/penalty.
Roberts cited precedent and more for why he ruled the way he did. You just don't happen to agree with the logic of the argument, so you rant and rave and throw ad hominem attacks and....
It's funny to see you alluding to "precedent" since you wouldn't know if he was citing "Mary Had a Little Lamb" as his "support."
No, you ignorant dishonest dip shit. I am pointing out that the CJ wrote a dishonest judicial opinion.
You like the outcome so you ignorantly support it, pretending to even understand it.
But you don't.
opinion in a pdf file: please, feel free to show the world where the dishonesty you claim exists.
Congress has the Affordable Care Act requiring a mandated shared responsibility payment. The shared responsibility payment is called a penalty in the text of the act (ACA). The Act has this penalty functioning as a tax. Roberts agreed the Congress can call the payment whatever it wants to call it in the text. But Roberts ruled that for constitutional purposes, a tax cannot be viewed as anything other than a tax.
Allowing Congress to call a tax a penalty for constitutional purposes would allow Congress to claim unprecedented powers outside the US Constitution.
Liability: beaten but unawares ... once again.
