The living wage

[shintao]

So a business owner is paying $7.50 an hour for menial labor(anybody can do it)...The bleeding hearts, with the help of government, raise the minimum wage to $10.00 an hour...The cost of doing business dosen't go up? Businesses running close to the margins, to keep the prices down, won't have to raise prices to absorb that? Why is it that liberal/socialists think the government can monkey around in private business without having an adverse effect? As though printing money without backing it up in some way, will not turn $10.00 an hour into $5.00 an hour...or a meal in a restaurant that costs $10.00 will cost $15.00 the next time you go? "So don't go to the restaurant" you say (and many people will do just that)...The restaurant owner will have to lay off a hostess here...a dishwasher there...a line cook to follow. Or do liberal/socialists think it is the responsibility of businesses to keep or add employees until the business folds and "everyone" is out of a job?

Where is the living wage $10. an hour? Why wouldn't wages and employees go up if the business is selling more products and making more profits from consumers? Doesn't he want to stay competitive? Why is it capitalist can't think of what happens when a company pays a fair wage. As long as they are fucking the workers, they understand that.......... With the LW, and increased product sales and services, the owner will be hiring a salesmen here and and a CEO there. Or does the capitalist believe that the owner will lay off workers, not have enough products to sell, and close his doors?

Do you not understand that if the owner must pay more wages he must raise his prices, and therefore sell less? Do you not understand that most businesses are competitive, many of them competing with overseas makers of similar products?
No, of course not. You ahve no understanding of the very basic elements of running a business, having never worked in one in your life.

I see the problem here. You just cannot comprehend English, or maybe you have a blind spot in your field of vision? You can get an office visit & have your eyelids raised so you can see. In fact, tell the surgeon to give you the Maximum rise treatment.

I was blind, but now I can see.

 

[shintao]

This Shiintao asshole is like the kid in Willy Wonka still buying candy bars in search of the golden ticket decades after the contest ended!!!

Make yourself useful as well as ornamental, and go suck yourself off.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Let me explain a few things to the knuckle dragger's. Gee, when you start off so nicely how can I not reply in kind?

1.A living wage IS NOT minimum wage,duh and it is paid by the employer, duhnot the government. It is fair wage for any area or family size in America, and sets the lowest wage paid, not the highest. An employer can reward workers for more work. and duh

A living wage gives a worker his living, and that after all is why we work. Other luxuries such as cars, etc. are above the living wage. not true at all. When I was making minimum I paid rent and bought a used car. Gee, we aren't even to point 2 and I have already caught a lie.

2.When you have a living wage workers can buy more from the market. That means more production. That means more workers being hired. true

3.A living wage will reduce taxes. uhm, How? When workers come off social programs like unemployment and welfare, your taxes will go down on paying for social programs they were on, as the burden is spread around. Welfare is designed to keep people on welfare. you should know that.

4.The new workers taxes will lower the amount of taxes you have to pay. How? Will the benevolent government do it "this time"? Or will they haved to be forced, once again?

5.It is a myth to think that the cost of items will go up to cover living wages.utter bullshit and another lie. Living wages are set according to the local area living expenses. most times. With more items being sold, employers would have no reason to raise wages. That's correct, having more coming in is not a reason to pay more, knowing that the good times end, so the owner should put some away for bad times so he can keep his shop open and people employed.

6.A living wage will stop two people working in a household, and let one worker spend a 40 hour work week for his employer, giving him more time with his family. rubbish. The left invented the 2 working income families, they will do nothing to solve that.

7.Crime will go down lie as more moms stay home, and society has less latch key children to deal with.foolishness, people want more, and women that want to work will work, regardless of income ie. less drug use, pregnancy, break ins & crime as parents monitor children. maybe, in a pipe dream.

8.Teenagers will not be in the workforce,lie rather home studying,more lies. hence raising America out of the low intellectual levels children face today. Americans are stoopid? Fucking libtard bullshit that was brought on by the libtard DOE

9.Households that chose to have both spouses working or one spouse holding down two or more jobs, will be penalized with higher taxes,ahh, you want dictatorship. Thanks for accidentally being honest. perhaps 75% on the additional jobs. This is to cover the costs of an unemployed person they are keeping from working and increased problems for society. ie. crime children, pregnancies, etc. Your vile evilness is showing. you may want to take this down.

10.Workers can start employment with the basics they need to do the job in their area, shelter, food, clothes, utilities. So employers won't be allowed to higher a better trained person?

Damn, the liberal mentality isn't.

I see a DUH working his way through the thread, perhaps the first con to see the LW and understand simple economics. Perhaps he can explain to his con knuckle draggers who were in complete & total denial last night how the LW would work and the personal benefits, family benefits and societal benefits to the LW.

Damn you are dumb.

Didn't you notice that is was the unions that got their people this "living" wage? No, no you didn't or you would have to admit that they were part of the problem that sent jobs out of the country.

your fantasy does not, has not and will not work. Now it's time to grow up, and let the adults run things w/o having to listen to the spoiled little children cry

Lifes not fair!!!!

 

[skookerasbil]

this whole thread is predicated upon the class warfare/wealth redistribution crap that just got the epic kick in the balls just three weeks ago.............

And since a big part of my role around here is to help ( as best I could) the k00ks keep their feet on the floor, just thought I'd remind them..........ummm.............

It is, after all, a "Politics" forum s0ns!!!

So, certainly you read the first post & the link using the LW calculator, so I assume you feel workers do not deserve a fair wage that will support them. So do you also conclude they can live in card board boxes, piss in canals they wash their clothes in and make their own shoes with worn out tires? Is this correct?

Eat dog food too s0n!!! That Purina stuff is the shit..........keeps my dog healthy as all hell............

 

[thereisnospoon]

What is not working is wages are not keeping up with increases in the cost of living. The costs of rent, gas and electric, healthcare, education, food exceed what workers can make in many high cost communities

Right now, the Government steps in and gives vouchers and subsidies to cover the difference. Those businesses that rely on low cost labor reap the benefit. If you don't think they should reimburse the taxpayer...then who should pay?

Welcome to Europe and the failing socialist model. You, just like all socialists, think that government requirements will fix or even out the disparities in our society. Some examples are "the Great Society" which created free or subsidized housing. Go to any HUD complex and ask how many times a week the police show up, in any city. How about medicare/medicaid? The government pays 20-60 cents on the dollar for medical treatment...The cost is deferred to the insurance companies and cash customers, who pay the shortfalls...More and more people are going on medicare and medicaid...the government is forced to pay less on the dollar and insurance is forced to pay more which results in hyperinflationary rises in insurance premiums and less and less doctors willing to treat medicare/medicaid patients...and on and on. Now the liberal/socialist will say "the doctor is greedy and should make less". The less a doctor is able to make, the less students are going to want to give up 8-12 years of their life just to get licenced....a spiral is developing because of government involvement. Add in the ambulance chasers and the whole system is doomed to fail. More freedom and less regulation for insurers and doctors, along with an overhaul of laws concerning malpractice, may be the only thing to lower medical costs meaningfully. It is American nature to find the best deals for anything...why wouldn't that happen with the medical industry?

Nice diatribe...what does it have to do with a living wage?

Everything. You lefties would use the threat of government sanctions to force businesses to pay unrealistic and unaffordable wages.
This to achieve the concept of "equality of outcome". A concept incompatible with freedom.

 

[skookerasbil]

This Shiintao asshole is like the kid in Willy Wonka still buying candy bars in search of the golden ticket decades after the contest ended!!!

Make yourself useful as well as ornamental, and go suck yourself off.

s0n..........know what? I know sure as Im sitting here typing this that the map graphic I posted is like a red hot poker planted firmly in your fat ass!!! Hows that for ornamental s0n??!!!

And yes.............yes.......I do love the color red FTMFW!!

 

[shintao]

Everything. You lefties would use the threat of government sanctions to force businesses to pay unrealistic and unaffordable wages.
This to achieve the concept of "equality of outcome". A concept incompatible with freedom.

LMAO! A fair living wage is "unrealistic & unfordable wages??" Maybe I would be missing something here, but why do you think a person works? And then you tell us a living wage is incompatible with freedom? Whose freedom?

 

[shintao]

This Shiintao asshole is like the kid in Willy Wonka still buying candy bars in search of the golden ticket decades after the contest ended!!!

Make yourself useful as well as ornamental, and go suck yourself off.

s0n..........know what? I know sure as Im sitting here typing this that the map graphic I posted is like a red hot poker planted firmly in your fat ass!!! Hows that for ornamental s0n??!!!

Sorry, I didn't pay any attention to the red map that has nothing to do with a Living wage. Try again. If you are looking for a distraction, try nude frontal photos of females.

And yes.............yes.......I do love the color red FTMFW!!

If you keep sucking your red cock, it will probably fall off in your red hands.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Everything. You lefties would use the threat of government sanctions to force businesses to pay unrealistic and unaffordable wages.
This to achieve the concept of "equality of outcome". A concept incompatible with freedom.

LMAO! A fair living wage is "unrealistic & unfordable wages??" Maybe I would be missing something here, but why do you think a person works? And then you tell us a living wage is incompatible with freedom? Whose freedom?

No it is not. Plus the market would be skewed higher right up the food chain.
For example we buy your notion of LW. Ok, fine. All business from going forward are required to pay LW. If that means $20 per hour so be it.
Question: What happens to the wages of more highly paid people? Are those wages increased accordingly? Or are those who have EARNED their way to those higher levels supposed to just take the pipe for the team and have unskilled people be paid the same as the more skilled or harder working people?....magic wand..
Since you are so adept at answering questions which are uncomfortable, I won't expect any answers.
Look, businesses....ahh forget it. You won't be able to comprehend business operations anyway.
You have your mind made up.
We tried to educate you on the impossibility of your theory being put into action.
Do you not find it alarming that you are perhaps the only one on here that believes in this stuff?

 

[shintao]

Let me explain a few things to the knuckle dragger's. Gee, when you start off so nicely how can I not reply in kind?

1.A living wage IS NOT minimum wage,duh and it is paid by the employer, duhnot the government. It is fair wage for any area or family size in America, and sets the lowest wage paid, not the highest. An employer can reward workers for more work. and duh

A living wage gives a worker his living, and that after all is why we work. Other luxuries such as cars, etc. are above the living wage. not true at all. When I was making minimum I paid rent and bought a used car. Gee, we aren't even to point 2 and I have already caught a lie.

2.When you have a living wage workers can buy more from the market. That means more production. That means more workers being hired. true

3.A living wage will reduce taxes. uhm, How? When workers come off social programs like unemployment and welfare, your taxes will go down on paying for social programs they were on, as the burden is spread around. Welfare is designed to keep people on welfare. you should know that.

4.The new workers taxes will lower the amount of taxes you have to pay. How? Will the benevolent government do it "this time"? Or will they haved to be forced, once again?

5.It is a myth to think that the cost of items will go up to cover living wages.utter bullshit and another lie. Living wages are set according to the local area living expenses. most times. With more items being sold, employers would have no reason to raise wages. That's correct, having more coming in is not a reason to pay more, knowing that the good times end, so the owner should put some away for bad times so he can keep his shop open and people employed.

6.A living wage will stop two people working in a household, and let one worker spend a 40 hour work week for his employer, giving him more time with his family. rubbish. The left invented the 2 working income families, they will do nothing to solve that.

7.Crime will go down lie as more moms stay home, and society has less latch key children to deal with.foolishness, people want more, and women that want to work will work, regardless of income ie. less drug use, pregnancy, break ins & crime as parents monitor children. maybe, in a pipe dream.

8.Teenagers will not be in the workforce,lie rather home studying,more lies. hence raising America out of the low intellectual levels children face today. Americans are stoopid? Fucking libtard bullshit that was brought on by the libtard DOE

9.Households that chose to have both spouses working or one spouse holding down two or more jobs, will be penalized with higher taxes,ahh, you want dictatorship. Thanks for accidentally being honest. perhaps 75% on the additional jobs. This is to cover the costs of an unemployed person they are keeping from working and increased problems for society. ie. crime children, pregnancies, etc. Your vile evilness is showing. you may want to take this down.

10.Workers can start employment with the basics they need to do the job in their area, shelter, food, clothes, utilities. So employers won't be allowed to higher a better trained person?

Damn, the liberal mentality isn't.

I see a DUH working his way through the thread, perhaps the first con to see the LW and understand simple economics. Perhaps he can explain to his con knuckle draggers who were in complete & total denial last night how the LW would work and the personal benefits, family benefits and societal benefits to the LW.

Damn you are dumb.

Didn't you notice that is was the unions that got their people this "living" wage? No, no you didn't or you would have to admit that they were part of the problem that sent jobs out of the country.

your fantasy does not, has not and will not work. Now it's time to grow up, and let the adults run things w/o having to listen to the spoiled little children cry

Lifes not fair!!!!

And damn, you are an imbecile.

What bearing does unions have in nonunion people getting a living wage? Did uou notice that Hubble telescope couldn't see people working for a Living wage? No, no you didn't or you would have to admit that people do not have the Living Wage law and jobs left America anyway.

Of course you have no idea if a living wage will work or not. So why don't you go have the kids on the merry go round give you a fast spin at the park.

Life is fair for me.

 

[The Rabbi]

You don't usnderstand "plural, and the difference between "singular." So naturally, you don't have a trillion laying around. Sounds like you shouldn't be in business if you can't even afford minimum wage jobs. Maybe you should look into getting your workforce from a state reformatory for boys. The state pays half the wages, you select the boys by their skills, etc. Funny, for a guy like me with no business background, (according to you)who has no concept, I am giving you a way to go, even though I doubt you can make it in the business world.

Actually 99% of corporations do not have a $1T lying around. And since most people work for smaller companies that also don't have $1T lying around your "plan" (and I put it in quotes because it is so half-baked it hardly qualifies as even that) would put about 40% of them out of work.
I realize you are posting your personal experience here but believe it or not not every state hires out their reformatory boys, nor are they suitable for many jobs, nor would an employer want the risk of employing one.
You continue to impress me and the rest of this board with your idiocy. Keep up the good work!

You have no proof anyone would be layed off if paid a fair living wage, because it is not logical. You see you can't get by the consumer having more money in his pocket to spend, so that production, hiring, wages increase.

Have you tried in your state? If you don't try, you fail, and apparently you are failing anyway while maximizing your labor force. If I give you (FREE) a simple idea that will make you a millionaire, would you ignore it? Or would you patent it, produce & sell it on QVC & such shows, or sell it out to one buyer and let them do it, etc? I know I can guarantee you 1 million in sales in the first year, and millions more in succeeding years, if you market it on QVC, and it can be made for under 5-10 dollars each. That is an olive branch & golden ring.

Actually I do have proof. It's called economics. Raise the price of something, you sell less of it.
How many theater ushers or gas station attendents have you seen lately? All victims of the minimum wage.

 

[Capitalist]

So how much is a living wage?
A $100 an hour would be a nice living wage.
A guy could get a job at Burger Doodle make $4000 a week, pay those lower taxes, buy a house, a car and let the old lady sit home and eat bon bons all day while the teen is upstairs studying. I like the sound of this and I can't see a down side.
BTW
What would be the cost of a burger, with the guy behind the counter making $208,000 a year? Now don't tell me that $100 per hour is too much, I think it a nice living and I was told that we live in a Democracy. It's just a matter of voting and we outnumber the business owners.

 

[shintao]

Everything. You lefties would use the threat of government sanctions to force businesses to pay unrealistic and unaffordable wages.
This to achieve the concept of "equality of outcome". A concept incompatible with freedom.

LMAO! A fair living wage is "unrealistic & unfordable wages??" Maybe I would be missing something here, but why do you think a person works? And then you tell us a living wage is incompatible with freedom? Whose freedom?

No it is not. Plus the market would be skewed higher right up the food chain.
For example we buy your notion of LW. Ok, fine. All business from going forward are required to pay LW. If that means $20 per hour so be it.
Question: What happens to the wages of more highly paid people? Are those wages increased accordingly? Or are those who have EARNED their way to those higher levels supposed to just take the pipe for the team and have unskilled people be paid the same as the more skilled or harder working people?....magic wand..

That would be up to an employer to raise wages above LW. If it was $20. hr, that would mean for that rich area, it would take $20. hr. employment to survive there. That means products are already priced higher at the stores, than the stores down at the ghetto. When a business comes into an area, it gears itself to the area. I expect to pay more for dinner when I travel to the bay area, than I would if I were dinning in a San Andreas Mt. town.

BUT it is entirely up to a employer who is paid more than LW. LW is so low that I doubt few people would be at the wage rate for any given area if they are applying themselves at the job. The employer can show his workers that is the going rate they should be able to survive in that area, and for him to pay anymore extraordinary accomplishments would have to take place for him to pay any of them more.

Since you are so adept at answering questions which are uncomfortable, I won't expect any answers.
Look, businesses....ahh forget it. You won't be able to comprehend business operations anyway.
You have your mind made up.
We tried to educate you on the impossibility of your theory being put into action.
Do you not find it alarming that you are perhaps the only one on here that believes in this stuff?

Not at all. That handfuls of oddballs who are self-centered and think of no one but themselves, I find it a logical conclusion to see it that way. Even when shown how much you will benefit yourself from the arrangement, you still doggedly protect the business people fucking the workers of America. When viewed in this manner, you can see the fucked are in the majority and the fuckees a small amount of the whole. It probably won't change any circumstances, and America can sit stagnant until hell freezes over and the Mexicans take over your jobs, because we are still sliding into the abyss, corporations will keep their Trillion profits & eventually leave before bankrupting themselves, minimum wage means you can live in a refrigerator box or it will be deemed a block to hiring as wages fall more.

Incidentally, as the wages fall more, I assume employers pay workers less, and people like you will lose your homes next, fold your businesses or hire illegals. Surely you can see your own demise coming, correct? You comprehend business operations and can see the slide, and yet you are offering no solutions to correct the fall except cut wages, fuck workers and their benefits, and make closer ties to corporations. What do you plan to do when you have fucked your last worker? Whats the plan expert?

 

[shintao]

Actually 99% of corporations do not have a $1T lying around. And since most people work for smaller companies that also don't have $1T lying around your "plan" (and I put it in quotes because it is so half-baked it hardly qualifies as even that) would put about 40% of them out of work.
I realize you are posting your personal experience here but believe it or not not every state hires out their reformatory boys, nor are they suitable for many jobs, nor would an employer want the risk of employing one.
You continue to impress me and the rest of this board with your idiocy. Keep up the good work!

You have no proof anyone would be layed off if paid a fair living wage, because it is not logical. You see you can't get by the consumer having more money in his pocket to spend, so that production, hiring, wages increase.

Have you tried in your state? If you don't try, you fail, and apparently you are failing anyway while maximizing your labor force. If I give you (FREE) a simple idea that will make you a millionaire, would you ignore it? Or would you patent it, produce & sell it on QVC & such shows, or sell it out to one buyer and let them do it, etc? I know I can guarantee you 1 million in sales in the first year, and millions more in succeeding years, if you market it on QVC, and it can be made for under 5-10 dollars each. That is an olive branch & golden ring.

Actually I do have proof. It's called economics. Raise the price of something, you sell less of it.
How many theater ushers or gas station attendents have you seen lately? All victims of the minimum wage.

And what happens when you have more consumers buying your products, as a living wage would result in? Do you sell less or more? Isn't this an economic question?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Let me explain a few things to the knuckle dragger's.

1.A living wage IS NOT minimum wage, and it is paid by the employer, not the government. It is fair wage for any area or family size in America, and sets the lowest wage paid, not the highest. An employer can reward workers for more work.

A living wage gives a worker his living, and that after all is why we work. Other luxuries such as cars, etc. are above the living wage.

2.When you have a living wage workers can buy more from the market. That means more production. That means more workers being hired.

3.A living wage will reduce taxes. When workers come off social programs like unemployment and welfare, your taxes will go down on paying for social programs they were on, as the burden is spread around.

4.The new workers taxes will lower the amount of taxes you have to pay.

5.It is a myth to think that the cost of items will go up to cover living wages. Living wages are set according to the local area living expenses. With more items being sold, employers would have no reason to raise wages.

6.A living wage will stop two people working in a household, and let one worker spend a 40 hour work week for his employer, giving him more time with his family.

7.Crime will go down as more moms stay home, and society has less latch key children to deal with. ie. less drug use, pregnancy, break ins & crime as parents monitor children.

8.Teenagers will not be in the workforce, rather home studying, hence raising America out of the low intellectual levels children face today.

9.Households that chose to have both spouses working or one spouse holding down two or more jobs, will be penalized with higher taxes, perhaps 75% on the additional jobs. This is to cover the costs of an unemployed person they are keeping from working and increased problems for society. ie. crime children, pregnancies, etc.

10.Workers can start employment with the basics they need to do the job in their area, shelter, food, clothes, utilities.

Living Wage Calculator - Introduction to the Living Wage Calculator

Why is it that in most locations in your referenced site the minimum wage is larger than the poverty wage...?

If the min wage is larger than the poverty wage.....doesn't that mean the person is not living in poverty....?

If a person is receiving wages larger than the poverty wages why is it necessary to arbitrarily hike the wages up to a "living wage"? Seems to me there is some kind of disconnect here...

How would you pay a "living wage" to people? Is the employer supposed to pay the "living wage" calculated hourly rate based upon his employee's family situation...? (as laid out in your site) Wouldn't that encourage employers to hire only single people?

If the rate is based upon the family situation....why should a person(s) receive more "living wages" for the same job just because they have a kid or two...? Isn't that discrimination against those who don't have/already raised children?

When you have 2 adults living together why should one get a "living wage" enough to support both of them...? Isn't that discriminatory to the single person...?

 

[shintao]

So how much is a living wage?

HINT: See first thread on LW subject. Go to link and calculate the LW for your area. Chuckles..............

 

[Capitalist]

So how much is a living wage?

HINT: See first thread on LW subject. Go to link and calculate the LW for your area. Chuckles..............

Hahahahahaha...........
Thats too low.
$100 per hour and a pony.
Some think that wealth is a communal pie that belongs equally to all of us. Wealth is created, it rightly belongs to those who earn it.
We all have "equal opportunity" for a good education in government schools. Yet some choose to spend their time in gang banging activities and end up in prison or dead. The government has created nothing, only a 30% graduation rate if you look at Detroit. Now we are expected to have government run business. Hahahahaha..............

 

[shintao]

Let me explain a few things to the knuckle dragger's.

1.A living wage IS NOT minimum wage, and it is paid by the employer, not the government. It is fair wage for any area or family size in America, and sets the lowest wage paid, not the highest. An employer can reward workers for more work.

A living wage gives a worker his living, and that after all is why we work. Other luxuries such as cars, etc. are above the living wage.

2.When you have a living wage workers can buy more from the market. That means more production. That means more workers being hired.

3.A living wage will reduce taxes. When workers come off social programs like unemployment and welfare, your taxes will go down on paying for social programs they were on, as the burden is spread around.

4.The new workers taxes will lower the amount of taxes you have to pay.

5.It is a myth to think that the cost of items will go up to cover living wages. Living wages are set according to the local area living expenses. With more items being sold, employers would have no reason to raise wages.

6.A living wage will stop two people working in a household, and let one worker spend a 40 hour work week for his employer, giving him more time with his family.

7.Crime will go down as more moms stay home, and society has less latch key children to deal with. ie. less drug use, pregnancy, break ins & crime as parents monitor children.

8.Teenagers will not be in the workforce, rather home studying, hence raising America out of the low intellectual levels children face today.

9.Households that chose to have both spouses working or one spouse holding down two or more jobs, will be penalized with higher taxes, perhaps 75% on the additional jobs. This is to cover the costs of an unemployed person they are keeping from working and increased problems for society. ie. crime children, pregnancies, etc.

10.Workers can start employment with the basics they need to do the job in their area, shelter, food, clothes, utilities.

Living Wage Calculator - Introduction to the Living Wage Calculator

Why is it that in most locations in your referenced site the minimum wage is larger than the poverty wage...?

If the min wage is larger than the poverty wage.....doesn't that mean the person is not living in poverty....?

This thread is about Living wage, not minimum wage, or poverty.

If a person is receiving wages larger than the poverty wages why is it necessary to arbitrarily hike the wages up to a "living wage"? Seems to me there is some kind of disconnect here...

Because the Living wage is based on the cost of living in that area.

How would you pay a "living wage" to people? Is the employer supposed to pay the "living wage" calculated hourly rate based upon his employee's family situation...? (as laid out in your site) Wouldn't that encourage employers to hire only single people?

Yes, just like taxes and other deductions. It could lead to hiring single people, but there is no evidence it has currently for other family taxation.

If the rate is based upon the family situation....why should a person(s) receive more "living wages" for the same job just because they have a kid or two...? Isn't that discrimination against those who don't have/already raised children?

I assume that is so. the article notes: "tool is designed to provide a minimum estimate of the cost of living for low wage families. " Families.

When you have 2 adults living together why should one get a "living wage" enough to support both of them...? Isn't that discriminatory to the single person...?

It could be discriminatory, just like the tax system is for married families with/without kids, homo unmarried families with/without kids, single with/without kids. Tax breaks, tax subsidies, etc.

 

[Capitalist]

The government has policies in place based on the same egalitarian mentality that denounces "income inequality." In the name of giving citizens "equal access" to education and "equal access" to medicine, the government has virtually taken over these fields, placing crippling controls on both producers and consumers.
I can see that some here enjoy subordinating the individual to some higher authority.

 

[Sallow]

Let me explain something to the Liberal/Fascist/Communists:

None of your nanny state meddling ideas have ever worked.

Of course, you are lying, and support no proof of your assertions, which probably has nothing to do with a living wage. .

What assertion, that Nanny States have always failed in the long run? Here is some proof:

California
New Jersey
New York
Illinois
Greece
Cuba
Spain
Britain
Russia
USSR
North Korea
Venezuela
East Germany

Wanna keep the list going? The more control a government attempts to take over it's people, the closer it gets to the end result of failure.

Bullshit.

The whole fucking country lives on the backs of the people in New York and California.

Were we allowed to keep what we make..instead of supporting red states..we would be doing a lot better.