The Libya Fiasco And The Folly Of Intervention...

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    By Rep. Ron Paul (R-Tex.)


    The attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya and the killing of the U.S. ambassador and several aides is another tragic example of how our interventionist foreign policy undermines our national security. The more the U.S. tries to control the rest of the world, either by democracy promotion, aid to foreign governments, or by bombs, the more events spin out of control into chaos, unintended consequences, and blowback.

    Unfortunately what we saw in Libya this week is nothing new.

    In 1980s Afghanistan the U.S. supported Islamic radicals in their efforts to expel the invading Soviet military. These radicals became what we now know as al-Qaeda, and our one-times allies turned on us most spectacularly on September 11, 2001.

    Iraq did not have a significant al Qaeda presence before the 2003 U.S. invasion, but our occupation of that country and attempt to remake it in our image caused a massive reaction that opened the door to al Qaeda, leading to thousands of US soldiers dead, a country destroyed, and instability that shows no sign of diminishing.

    In Libya we worked with, among others, the rebel Libyan Fighting Group (LIFG) which included foreign elements of al-Qaeda. It has been pointed out that the al-Qaeda affiliated radicals we fought in Iraq were some of the same groups we worked with to overthrow Gaddafi in Libya. Last year in a television interview I predicted that the result of NATO’s bombing of Libya would likely be an increased al-Qaeda presence in the country. I said at the time that we may be delivering al-Qaeda another prize.

    Not long after NATO overthrew Gaddafi, the al Qaeda flag was flown over the courthouse in Benghazi. Should we be surprised, then, that less than a year later there would be an attack on our consulate in Benghazi? We have been told for at least the past eleven years that these people are the enemy who seeks to do us harm.

    There is danger in the belief we can remake the world by bribing some countries and bombing others. But that is precisely what the interventionists – be they liberal or conservative – seem to believe. When the world does not conform to their image, they seem genuinely shocked. The secretary of state’s reaction to the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi was one of confusion. “How could this happen in a country we helped liberate, in a city we helped save from destruction,” she asked.

    The problem is that we do not know and we cannot know enough about these societies we are seeking to remake. We never try to see through the eyes of those we seek to liberate. Libya is in utter chaos,...

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    The Libya fiasco and the folly of intervention - The Hill's Congress Blog
    Dr. Ron Paul's TheHill Op Ed: The Libya fiasco and the Folly of Intervention - Sept. 14, 2012 | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Revolution
     
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    Maybe one day they'll take the Good Doctor's advice. I truly do hope so anyway.
     
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    Good article....Thanks for posting
     
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    You're welcome. Yeah, we're making all the same mistakes we've made in the past. Supporting the radicals in Afghanistan is what has caused so many of these messes. We're seeing the same rise of the radicals in Libya and Egypt. And we're already experiencing terrible Blowback as a result. But i'm afraid it will get worse.
     
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    Great Article. I don't think we tried to remake Libya in our image though. What is lacking there is the recognition of Unalienable Rights, Equal Justice, for Male and Female, Believer, and Non-Believer, for Starters. Without strong Roots, there is not much of a Foundation to build on.
     
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    How do you trust a publication that take a rhetorical question(that was answered in her speech) and twists it into " The secretary of state’s reaction to the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi was one of confusion"

    Transcript: Hillary Clinton's Remarks on the U.S. Embassy Attack in Libya | News | BET
     
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    If it wasn't for oil we wouldn't be there fighting all these wars to begin with.. Israel of course plays a role in all this as we tend to side with them in most if not all the issues popping up over there....So we can add all that to the reasons why 9/11 was visited upon us..
     
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    Silly non-interventionists....

    The world will always have an 800 lb. gorilla. He gets the best food and has sex with all the lady gorilli.

    If the 800 lb. gorilla gets tired of being on top, there are always several 600 lb. gorrilli waiting in the wings to kick the 800 lb. gorilla's ass and screw all of the female gorilli.

    It is the law of the jungle.


    See: World History
     
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    If we weren't over there antagonizing that 800 pound guerrilla than he wouldn't be a problem for us.... It's not our job to police the world......
     

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