The Legislation That Could Kill Internet Privacy for Good

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Every right-thinking person abhors child pornography. To combat it, legislators have brought through committee a poorly conceived, over-broad Congressional bill, The Protecting Children from Internet Pornographers Act of 2011. It is arguably the biggest threat to civil liberties now under consideration in the United States. The potential victims: everyone who uses the Internet.

The good news? It hasn't gone before the full House yet.

The bad news: it already made it through committee. And history shows that in times of moral panic, overly broad legislation has a way of becoming law. In fact, a particular moment comes to mind.

That name is what brought the anecdote back to me. A better name for the child pornography bill would be The Encouragement of Blackmail by Law Enforcement Act. At issue is how to catch child pornographers. It's too hard now, say the bill's backers, and I can sympathize. It's their solution that appalls me: under language approved 19 to 10 by a House committee, the firm that sells you Internet access would be required to track all of your Internet activity and save it for 18 months, along with your name, the address where you live, your bank account numbers, your credit card numbers, and IP addresses you've been assigned.

Tracking the private daily behavior of everyone in order to help catch a small number of child criminals is itself the noxious practice of police states. Said an attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation: "The data retention mandate in this bill would treat every Internet user like a criminal and threaten the online privacy and free speech rights of every American." Even more troubling is what the government would need to do in order to access this trove of private information: ask for it.

Terrible idea, and of course they always have the most innocent sounding names for the worst bills.
 
The Legislation That Could Kill Internet Privacy for Good - Conor Friedersdorf - Politics - The Atlantic

Every right-thinking person abhors child pornography. To combat it, legislators have brought through committee a poorly conceived, over-broad Congressional bill, The Protecting Children from Internet Pornographers Act of 2011. It is arguably the biggest threat to civil liberties now under consideration in the United States. The potential victims: everyone who uses the Internet.

The good news? It hasn't gone before the full House yet.

The bad news: it already made it through committee. And history shows that in times of moral panic, overly broad legislation has a way of becoming law. In fact, a particular moment comes to mind.

That name is what brought the anecdote back to me. A better name for the child pornography bill would be The Encouragement of Blackmail by Law Enforcement Act. At issue is how to catch child pornographers. It's too hard now, say the bill's backers, and I can sympathize. It's their solution that appalls me: under language approved 19 to 10 by a House committee, the firm that sells you Internet access would be required to track all of your Internet activity and save it for 18 months, along with your name, the address where you live, your bank account numbers, your credit card numbers, and IP addresses you've been assigned.

Tracking the private daily behavior of everyone in order to help catch a small number of child criminals is itself the noxious practice of police states. Said an attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation: "The data retention mandate in this bill would treat every Internet user like a criminal and threaten the online privacy and free speech rights of every American." Even more troubling is what the government would need to do in order to access this trove of private information: ask for it.

Terrible idea, and of course they always have the most innocent sounding names for the worst bills.

Yeah... like "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act".

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
be careful what you search for.

The internet is not and never will be private no matter what they say.


They will control it just like they end up controling everything.

I have no doubt all sorts of data mining goes on with computors.

Its a gold mine of data for the corps.
 
be careful what you search for.

The internet is not and never will be private no matter what they say.


They will control it just like they end up controling everything.

I have no doubt all sorts of data mining goes on with computors.

Its a gold mine of data for the corps.

That's why you need to change the foil in your hat regularly dear.
 
The Legislation That Could Kill Internet Privacy for Good - Conor Friedersdorf - Politics - The Atlantic

Every right-thinking person abhors child pornography. To combat it, legislators have brought through committee a poorly conceived, over-broad Congressional bill, The Protecting Children from Internet Pornographers Act of 2011. It is arguably the biggest threat to civil liberties now under consideration in the United States. The potential victims: everyone who uses the Internet.

The good news? It hasn't gone before the full House yet.

The bad news: it already made it through committee. And history shows that in times of moral panic, overly broad legislation has a way of becoming law. In fact, a particular moment comes to mind.

That name is what brought the anecdote back to me. A better name for the child pornography bill would be The Encouragement of Blackmail by Law Enforcement Act. At issue is how to catch child pornographers. It's too hard now, say the bill's backers, and I can sympathize. It's their solution that appalls me: under language approved 19 to 10 by a House committee, the firm that sells you Internet access would be required to track all of your Internet activity and save it for 18 months, along with your name, the address where you live, your bank account numbers, your credit card numbers, and IP addresses you've been assigned.

Tracking the private daily behavior of everyone in order to help catch a small number of child criminals is itself the noxious practice of police states. Said an attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation: "The data retention mandate in this bill would treat every Internet user like a criminal and threaten the online privacy and free speech rights of every American." Even more troubling is what the government would need to do in order to access this trove of private information: ask for it.

Terrible idea, and of course they always have the most innocent sounding names for the worst bills.

Yeah... like "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act".

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

that's different. It wasn't started by republicans.
 
that's different. It wasn't started by republicans.

Actually, the bill was started by a Republican but has several Democrat co-sponsors. The bill itself currently has 25 co-sponsors. 15 Republicans and 10 Democrats.
 
Very wrong headed way to do this.

Of course, they already have the IP address, the name, address, bank account # etc of every subscriber anyway.

What might work is to require records of every visit to certain poisonous sites, and once that is recorded, they could subpoena the requirement for recording persons who visit these domains on a regular basis.
 
Socialists/Progressives/Neocons. You gotta love em...Or do ya? Welcome to Nanny State Hell. Enjoy your stay. :(
 
Insanity

Oh please big daddy gubmint protects my chilluns!!

This is just another, yet ANOTHER, feel good bill so that people will think they are safe as long as the government is doing it.

fyi; You're computer has filters on it to keep porn out and you can block people from bothering you.

all this to catch a few pervs
 
Very wrong headed way to do this.

Of course, they already have the IP address, the name, address, bank account # etc of every subscriber anyway.

What might work is to require records of every visit to certain poisonous sites, and once that is recorded, they could subpoena the requirement for recording persons who visit these domains on a regular basis.

Baruch - my take is that this is the point, the 'government' would like to avoid the subpoena requirement.
 
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Big Government always uses the Children to get in and control the People. This has been done countless times in the past. It's always "all for the children." They know most people are just ignorant sheep and will buy into it. After all it is for the Children right? Well some did want the Nanny State i guess. So here it is. And it's gonna get a whole lot worse.
 

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