The lefties want "equality". Is equality possible?

[JBeukema]

We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal...

Key word: created. That does not mean everybody is always equal all through life.

Men are created equal?

Huntington's disease...

 

[LiberalNut]

I'm not better than you Soggy. I'm just better educated than you.

This thread is stupid. The OP is a textbook straw man argument. Oooops, but I mentioned textbooks. My pointy-headedness is showing.

 

[del]

They start off equal. They are all equally free. They should be equal in the eyes of the law.

But the reality, you have people like John McCain getting into the Naval Academy based on Daddy pulling strings. Or George Bush being jumped over thousands more qualified to get into Harvard based on Daddy pulling strings. You see, Affirmative Action is OK as long as it helps only rich white people.

Or Obama getting into Harvard because he's black?

Except that being the Editor of the Harvard Law Review means he was in the top 10% of his class. He taught "Constitutional Law" at the University Level for 10 years. He went to Harvard based on "student loans" which he didn't finish paying off until his forties. They were "paid off" from the money he received when he wrote two best selling books.

The right just want to hate him so much, that fucking "black guy" in the "WHITE" House, they just can't see him as a hard working American who actually represents the American Dream going from "food stamps" to the nation's highest elected office. They will never see anything good from Obama. They refuse too. The hate is simply too deep.

Like I said before, his name could be "George Washington Lincoln" born in Washington DC under a Cherry tree and delivered by Ron Paul and the right would still hate him. They can deny it all they want, but they are a Conservative Confederate Party that is 90% white. That is the reality.

no it doesn't. there has been no academic requirement for editorship of the law review since the mid 80's


fail

 

[LiberalNut]

To pay for college I drove a truck and moved furniture.

I carried golf bags for rich white people.

 

[JBeukema]

You do realize that the rest of the world didn't sign up to our Constitution, right?

How many slaves did?

We, as Americans, are created equal.

So first it's 'all men' and now it's 'all men born in the right place'?

And, since you want to talk about who signed the constitution, with the right skin colour.

and since when do you have a problem with American imperialism?

Oh, and haemophilia...

 

[Sallow]

To pay for college I drove a truck and moved furniture.

I carried golf bags for rich white people.

Two pointy headed liberal types involved in manual labor..

Go fig.

 

[LiberalNut]

Two pointy headed liberal types involved in manual labor..

You know, when you're caddying for a rich white dude and there's a question of what club he should hit, always give him the lesser club. If he hits it in the front bunker, you can always convince him that he didn't hit it all that good. If you give him the bigger club and he hits it over the back though, there's no way out of that one.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Yeah, the left is composed of the pointy-headed academic types.

Check back a few posts for my schpiel on the straw man.

Of all the things that irk me about the weak minded right, the anti-intellectualism of the thing is the most disgusting aspect.

Those that despise people will never get the best out of others and themselves.
Alexis de Tocqueville

Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.
Alexis de Tocqueville

 

[LiberalNut]

And, another rightie posts a screed against a socialist strawman.

::sigh::

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Rich white people? WTF?????

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Ok, I cleaned up after poor black people when I worked for the Parkway Commission.

 

[LiberalNut]

Rich white people? WTF?????

Dude, they were members of a country club and paid people to carry their golf bag. They were rich and they were white. What's the problem? These days, I have a caddy when i play. Someday they can say...I used to carry golf bags for a rich white guy.

 

[LiberalNut]

I cleaned up after poor black people

Did you ever wonder why it was mostly white guys with the cush summer jobs at the parkway comish? Shit, I noticed that white caddies got tipped better than black ones.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

And, another rightie posts a screed against a socialist strawman.

::sigh::

What's the "strawman" here exactly....? I saw the original post as an honest attempt to find an answer to what equality means to a leftist...the equality which was referenced in the cultural dictionary definition of leftist...

leftist definition

One who holds a left-wing viewpoint; someone who seeks radical social and economic change in the direction of greater equality.

The American Heritage® New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition
Copyright © 2005 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

Do you just disdain the question for your own reasons.....or could you perhaps enlighten us as to what equality really means to a leftist/socialist...?

 

[LiberalNut]

I saw the original post as an honest attempt to find an answer to what equality means to a leftist

Then you aren't very bright. The OP is a textbook straw man argument. I posted a link that explains this logical fallacy. You should click and read.

leftist/socialist

You see, here you go. Socialism has a definition son and it isn't synonymous with liberal or leftist. Socialism is defined as any of the economic philosophies that advocate collective (government) ownership of the means of production and distribution in society. There aint no socialists here bud. That's you building a strawman, just as you are trained to do.

 

[Two Thumbs]

While the OP is a utopian dream, it's utter bs.

Who is going to do the hard body killing labor, who will work the fields in 100 + degree temps and who gets to work in the AC, at a desk.

Life being fair is mindless bs, so of course it's a progs dream to enforce it through the government.

 

[LiberalNut]

And another drone repeats the stawman.

::sigh::

 

[ScreamingEagle]

I saw the original post as an honest attempt to find an answer to what equality means to a leftist

Then you aren't very bright. The OP is a textbook straw man argument. I posted a link that explains this logical fallacy. You should click and read.

leftist/socialist

You see, here you go. Socialism has a definition son and it isn't synonymous with liberal or leftist. Socialism is defined as any of the economic philosophies that advocate collective (government) ownership of the means of production and distribution in society. There aint no socialists here bud. That's you building a strawman, just as you are trained to do.

I love how you leftists run for the "definitions" when you are on shaky ground.....

This op was based on a CULTURAL DEFINITION.....and the cultural perspective that socialism provides equality to all....equality that is touted by socialists all the time in their propaganda.... but never in concrete terms....

Of course we both know you can't defend the position of socialist equality....intellectually, that is....therefore i understand your attempt to derail and demean the argument...

 

[LiberalNut]

Demean? You betcha! :: Ooops, excuse the Palinese. I tend to demean undereducated drones who, acting according to their training, post straw man arguments. It's what i do.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Demean? You betcha! :: Ooops, excuse the Palinese. I tend to demean undereducated drones who, acting according to their training, post straw man arguments. It's what i do.

Then prove de Toqueville wrong mr. smartass...

Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.
Alexis de Tocqueville