The latest...YET AGAIN....examples of the failure of liberalism.

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    NYT: Illinois facing fiscal 'disaster' - Business - The New York Times - msnbc.com

    Now Illinois is going bankrupt. Pensions. Welfare. Liberalism in general. "Crisis" and "Chaos". In Obama's adopted home state? No way. Yes way.

    It's yet another example of the failure of liberalism. And BEFORE we get the mandatory 40 posts from liberals cut-and-pasting "You had 8 years your way" or "Bush caused it" let me restate a previous statement I made:

    Liberalism is the problem. It comes in many forms. From a teacher, a politician, a professor, a businessman, or a jobless protestor. It comes in all colors, red, blue and especially green. And liberalism comes with a "D"....AND...an "R" next to it sometimes. George W. Bush was in name a Republican, but mostly in action a liberal. Too much spending. Open borders.

    So, now back to the point. We've seen liberalism accelerate since 1990. And it's rotting our country to death from the local level, to state level, to national level, to eventually global levels.

    Yet, soft hearted libs will cry, ala Nancy Pelosi, about the horrors and shock of stopping unemployment checks. Well, folks, we're broke. Those people may have to move home with their parents and work in a multi-family home to get by. They may have to cancel their cable bill and cell phones. Sell a car and carpool. Or......God forbid.......they may have to settle for one of those jobs "Americans won't do" that we supposedly needed the 20 million illegal immigrants to come here and take, right?



    Oh, and PS: Any sports fans notice how liberal tax policies are affecting the NBA? Yep. Lebron James, the current mega-star of the NBA, is shopping for a new team to play for. He'll make millions anywhere, but Jersey and Miami are selling him on the lower taxes ploy. Reportedly, in a 5 year deal, he'll bank an extra $15 million just from saved taxes by playing for Miami instead of NY.

    NOW, apply the NBA/James situation to a state trying to lure a big-name company with 5,000 good jobs to their state. Wouldn't it help if they had lower taxes?
     
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    Failures of liberalism?

    American Revolution
    Abolition of Slavery
    Womans rights
    Worker protection
    End of Child Labor
    Civil Rights
    Environmental Protections
    Gay Rights

    ALL were fought by the Conseratives of their day
     
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    And most are being fought against by the liberals of our current day.

    And since you are bringing these up, let me delve into it:

    American Revolution? That was the very ideal of conservatism. No more tyrannical taxes. Freedom. Less government. Exact opposite of liberalism.

    Slavery? Republican party freed the slaves. The WHITE men of America wanted to free them also. Current liberals want people to become slaves to the government. Government vs Plantation Boss. No difference anymore.

    Woman's Rights? Yes, a failure of liberalism. Why? Because it is inconsistent and contradictory. Don't believe it? Just look at the treatment of Sarah Palin and Nikki Haley, and see the response from far left womans rights groups. Lack of consistency = failure.

    Worker Protection? Wouldnt a sealed border protect worker's jobs and salaries? I bet a lot of Americans today would "Do the jobs Americans won't do" as the phrase was in 2005 if immigrants hadn't taken those jobs first, right? Want to protect American worker? Stop illegal immigration.

    End Child Labor? Im fine with that. Obama should scold China for it's continued use. He wont.

    Civil Rights? You gotta be kidding me, right? Liberal "civil rights" has turned our country into a population of a thousand sub-groups, each with their own right to victimhood. We have began treating each other with less respect and equality, not more. It's because of the libs clinging to the victimhood mentality for each subgroup. Failure.

    Environmental Protection? You tried to sell our country away on the hoax of global warming. Get the f**k out of here with that.

    And finally, Gay Rights. Well, Obama has had total power for 1.5 years now and no action on that. And Clinton passed Don't Ask Don't Tell. Hey, liberal California voted DOWN gay marriage. So, the way I see it, the only ones to blame is yourselves.

    Meanwhile.....

    Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, WELFARE, social entitlements, "green" energy funding, Fannie and Freddie Mac, all continue to bankrupt us.

    Liberalism is a failed and dangerous ideology.
     
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    Bucs, the prime example of Conservative empty headedness.

    New GI Bill.

    Health Care Bill

    Financial Regulations.

    Taking the Banks out of the college loans

    All good, and all fought by the cretins on the right.

    You can look forward to cap and trade, then the shutting down of major CO2 emitters as the climate change becomes more evident and extreme.

    Our President will probably appoint two, mybe, three more Supreme Court Justices before 2016. You will enjoy his choices.
     
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    Don't confuse freedom and modern liberalism
     
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    For most of the Conservatives, freedom means the freedom to starve the middle and working class.
     
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    The founding fathers were the ultimate liberals of their day. Can you imagine believing that "All men are created equal"???

    What nonsense! Everyone knows that royalty is created to rule. Everyone knows the working class are not capable of deciding important issues.....THAT was the conservative of the day
     
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    Once again confusing the concept of Republican and conservative. Conservatives of the day wanted each state to decide how its people should be treated. Abolitionists were the ultimate liberals of their day. Once again acknowleging that "all men are created equal"
     
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    Womans rights a FAILURE?
    Allowing women to vote was a FAILURE? Equal pay for equal work was a FAILURE?

    Palin and Haley are treated like they are because they have equal rights. They chose to get involved in the political process. As such, they are treated just like men
     
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    Civil Rights was a FAILURE? The right to vote was a failure? Equal access to public education and public services was a failure?

    Population of a thousand subgroups? Are you kidding me? What did we have before the civil rights movement? Everyone was assigned to a group. You were Black, White, Jewish, Itallian, Irish, Oriental...

    Depending on which group you belonged to you were treated differently
     

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