The Keys to the White House

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As background, the information below is from a book, “The Keys to the White House”. It’s a fascinating read and basically maps out why polls, pundits, commentators and the media often get it so very wrong when trying to predict the outcome of a General Election in the US. The whole book is worth reading, if you have a real interest in the historic data, and non-partisan evaluation of previous elections to use as an information source for future elections.

For the purpose of this thread, I thought it would be cool to focus just on one particular piece of the book…. The 13 key indicators to predicting the outcome of the election.

The 13 Keys

The Keys to the White House are stated as conditions that favour re-election of the incumbent party. When 5 or fewer statements are false, the incumbent party wins. When six or more are false, the incumbent party loses.

Key 1: Incumbent-party mandate: After the mid-term elections, the incumbent party holds more seats in the US House of Representatives than it did after the previous mid-term elections.

Key 2: Nomination-contest: There is no serious contest for the incumbent-party nomination.

Key 3: Incumbency: The incumbent-party candidate is the sitting President.

Key 4: Third party: There is no significant third party or independent campaign.

Key 5: Short term economy: The economy is not in recession during the election campaign.

Key 6: Long term economy: Real annual per-capita economic growth during the term equals or exceeds mean growth during the previous two terms.

Key 7: Policy Change: The incumbent administration effects major changes in national policy.

Key 8: Social Unrest: There is no sustained social unrest during the term.

Key 9: Scandal: The incumbent administration is untainted by major scandal.

Key 10: Foreign or military failure: The incumbent suffers no major failure in foreign or military affairs.

Key 11: Foreign or military success: The incumbent suffers achieves a major success in foreign or military affairs.

Key 12: Incumbent charisma: The incumbent party candidate is charismatic or a national hero.

Key 13: Challenger charisma: The challenging party candidate is not charismatic or a national hero.


The keys to the White House: a surefire guide to predicting the next president - Allan J. Lichtman - Google Books

If you put your own personal political bullshit to one side for a few minutes, and honestly evaluate this Administration with critical thought.... how many 'false' responses does Obama get?

As an aside, it's worth clicking on the link and reading the e-book selection available. It's really interesting.
 
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I have six also, with a couple of 'unknowns'. I'll expand on mine once there has been some 'action' on the thread.... assuming there is any.

It will, I think, be interesting to monitor the keys as we get nearer the election.
 
If I attempt to put aside my partisanship, I see only 4 as definite "false" 2 are highly subjective and one can't be answered at this point.
Maybe I should actually read the rest of the article maybe even the book to see just how accurate his test has been in the past.
 
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I see at least six falses.

Sayonara.

I wanna play.

Which 6? I got 5, tops.

I give Obama (true) on 2, 3, 11, and 13. The others are either absolutely false or 'unknown'... in that it is too soon to really call it as one or the other.

On 11, I think he'll claim Iraq - even though it's not really his.

However, if Egypt goes to hell, that's gonna come back to bite his ass. We helped overthrow an ally of the US on that one. Could go either way, tbh.

I don't think he's got the charisma he had in 08, but again... it's open.

As it stands, I don't think either side can be absolutely confident on these for a while yet.
 
Def. True (so far anyway): 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 11

Def. False: 1

Which among 8, 9, 10, 12, & 13 (all rather subjective) do you call "False?" You'd have to call them all false to come up with 6, unless you're calling any of my "Definitely true" choices false... All hard cases to make but let's have at it...
 
I see at least six falses.

Sayonara.

I wanna play.

Which 6? I got 5, tops.

I give Obama (true) on 2, 3, 11, and 13. The others are either absolutely false or 'unknown'... in that it is too soon to really call it as one or the other.

On 11, I think he'll claim Iraq - even though it's not really his.

However, if Egypt goes to hell, that's gonna come back to bite his ass. We helped overthrow an ally of the US on that one. Could go either way, tbh.

I don't think he's got the charisma he had in 08, but again... it's open.

As it stands, I don't think either side can be absolutely confident on these for a while yet.

As of now, we are technically NOT in recession, by definition. 5 is TRUE. 4 is unknown as of now, but if there is a 3rd party, it's not likely to be one that siphons Dem votes. That's TRUE for now also. (11 is Bin Laden even if it's not Iraq)

I think most people would describe Obama as charismatic, but I didn't give that a definite "TRUE." It's an unknown.

7 = Obamacare - That is a major change in national policy, the question assigns no value to popularity.

The others are subjective and/or unknown.
 
Def. True (so far anyway): 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 11

Def. False: 1

Which among 8, 9, 10, 12, & 13 (all rather subjective) do you call "False?" You'd have to call them all false to come up with 6, unless you're calling any of my "Definitely true" choices false... All hard cases to make but let's have at it...

5? Seriously? That's hinky at best. No way can anyone claim it as 'true', with a sound mind.
 
If I attempt to put aside my partisanship, I see only 4 as definite "false" 2 are highly subjective and one can't be answered at this point.
Maybe I should actually read the rest of the article maybe even the book to see just how accurate his test has been in the past.
Four for me. Two possibles, one depending on a 3rd party candidate.
 
As background, the information below is from a book, “The Keys to the White House”. It’s a fascinating read and basically maps out why polls, pundits, commentators and the media often get it so very wrong when trying to predict the outcome of a General Election in the US. The whole book is worth reading, if you have a real interest in the historic data, and non-partisan evaluation of previous elections to use as an information source for future elections.

For the purpose of this thread, I thought it would be cool to focus just on one particular piece of the book…. The 13 key indicators to predicting the outcome of the election.

The 13 Keys

The Keys to the White House are stated as conditions that favour re-election of the incumbent party. When 5 or fewer statements are false, the incumbent party wins. When six or more are false, the incumbent party loses.

Key 1: Incumbent-party mandate: After the mid-term elections, the incumbent party holds more seats in the US House of Representatives than it did after the previous mid-term elections.

Key 2: Nomination-contest: There is no serious contest for the incumbent-party nomination.

Key 3: Incumbency: The incumbent-party candidate is the sitting President.

Key 4: Third party: There is no significant third party or independent campaign.

Key 5: Short term economy: The economy is not in recession during the election campaign.

Key 6: Long term economy: Real annual per-capita economic growth during the term equals or exceeds mean growth during the previous two terms.

Key 7: Policy Change: The incumbent administration effects major changes in national policy.

Key 8: Social Unrest: There is no sustained social unrest during the term.

Key 9: Scandal: The incumbent administration is untainted by major scandal.

Key 10: Foreign or military failure: The incumbent suffers no major failure in foreign or military affairs.

Key 11: Foreign or military success: The incumbent suffers achieves a major success in foreign or military affairs.

Key 12: Incumbent charisma: The incumbent party candidate is charismatic or a national hero.

Key 13: Challenger charisma: The challenging party candidate is not charismatic or a national hero.


The keys to the White House: a surefire guide to predicting the next president - Allan J. Lichtman - Google Books

If you put your own personal political bullshit to one side for a few minutes, and honestly evaluate this Administration with critical thought.... how many 'false' responses does Obama get?

As an aside, it's worth clicking on the link and reading the e-book selection available. It's really interesting.

True statements are bolded. This isn't even close.
 
I wanna play.

Which 6? I got 5, tops.

I give Obama (true) on 2, 3, 11, and 13. The others are either absolutely false or 'unknown'... in that it is too soon to really call it as one or the other.

On 11, I think he'll claim Iraq - even though it's not really his.

However, if Egypt goes to hell, that's gonna come back to bite his ass. We helped overthrow an ally of the US on that one. Could go either way, tbh.

I don't think he's got the charisma he had in 08, but again... it's open.

As it stands, I don't think either side can be absolutely confident on these for a while yet.

As of now, we are technically NOT in recession, by definition. 5 is TRUE. 4 is unknown as of now, but if there is a 3rd party, it's not likely to be one that siphons Dem votes. That's TRUE for now also. (11 is Bin Laden even if it's not Iraq)

I think most people would describe Obama as charismatic, but I didn't give that a definite "TRUE." It's an unknown.

7 = Obamacare - That is a major change in national policy, the question assigns no value to popularity.

The others are subjective and/or unknown.

I did say many are 'unknown' right now.... i just thought it would be interesting to take a look at the keys - as given and see where people are.

Thing with 5.... we may technically not be in 'recession'.... but there is a strong possibility that we will slip back in the coming months. I don't think that's a 'true' for Obama....

As I said.... lots of 'unknowns' right now.
 
As background, the information below is from a book, “The Keys to the White House”. It’s a fascinating read and basically maps out why polls, pundits, commentators and the media often get it so very wrong when trying to predict the outcome of a General Election in the US. The whole book is worth reading, if you have a real interest in the historic data, and non-partisan evaluation of previous elections to use as an information source for future elections.

For the purpose of this thread, I thought it would be cool to focus just on one particular piece of the book…. The 13 key indicators to predicting the outcome of the election.

The 13 Keys

The Keys to the White House are stated as conditions that favour re-election of the incumbent party. When 5 or fewer statements are false, the incumbent party wins. When six or more are false, the incumbent party loses.

Key 1: Incumbent-party mandate: After the mid-term elections, the incumbent party holds more seats in the US House of Representatives than it did after the previous mid-term elections.

Key 2: Nomination-contest: There is no serious contest for the incumbent-party nomination.

Key 3: Incumbency: The incumbent-party candidate is the sitting President.

Key 4: Third party: There is no significant third party or independent campaign.

Key 5: Short term economy: The economy is not in recession during the election campaign.

Key 6: Long term economy: Real annual per-capita economic growth during the term equals or exceeds mean growth during the previous two terms.

Key 7: Policy Change: The incumbent administration effects major changes in national policy.

Key 8: Social Unrest: There is no sustained social unrest during the term.

Key 9: Scandal: The incumbent administration is untainted by major scandal.

Key 10: Foreign or military failure: The incumbent suffers no major failure in foreign or military affairs.

Key 11: Foreign or military success: The incumbent suffers achieves a major success in foreign or military affairs.

Key 12: Incumbent charisma: The incumbent party candidate is charismatic or a national hero.

Key 13: Challenger charisma: The challenging party candidate is not charismatic or a national hero.


The keys to the White House: a surefire guide to predicting the next president - Allan J. Lichtman - Google Books

If you put your own personal political bullshit to one side for a few minutes, and honestly evaluate this Administration with critical thought.... how many 'false' responses does Obama get?

As an aside, it's worth clicking on the link and reading the e-book selection available. It's really interesting.

True statements are bolded. This isn't even close.

You might want to consider a few of those 'definites' with a little less partisanship and a little more critical thought. Be honest about the issues.
 
Key 1: Incumbent-party mandate: After the mid-term elections, the incumbent party holds more seats in the US House of Representatives than it did after the previous mid-term elections. False

Key 2: Nomination-contest: There is no serious contest for the incumbent-party nomination. True

Key 3: Incumbency: The incumbent-party candidate is the sitting President. True

Key 4: Third party: There is no significant third party or independent campaign. True

Key 5: Short term economy: The economy is not in recession during the election campaign. True

Key 6: Long term economy: Real annual per-capita economic growth during the term equals or exceeds mean growth during the previous two terms. False

Key 7: Policy Change: The incumbent administration effects major changes in national policy. True

Key 8: Social Unrest: There is no sustained social unrest during the term. True

Key 9: Scandal: The incumbent administration is untainted by major scandal. True

Key 10: Foreign or military failure: The incumbent suffers no major failure in foreign or military affairs. True

Key 11: Foreign or military success: The incumbent suffers achieves a major success in foreign or military affairs. N/A but possibly true

Key 12: Incumbent charisma: The incumbent party candidate is charismatic or a national hero. True

Key 13: Challenger charisma: The challenging party candidate is not charismatic or a national hero. NA

Well done Obama.....
 
You guys are still holding out hope that the economy will suck and Americans will suffer. Really special group you are.

Strong possibility my ass.

Actually, it's going by economic forecasts... and looking a little further than the view from your head up Obama's ass, like you do.

No one 'wants' the economy to 'suck'.... just that some of us are a tad more realistic about it... and we don't by into the bullshit from the Administration. All it takes is for Greece to go, and the whole of Europe goes... and so does the US. And Greece is looking very, very hinky. So are a few other countries there.

I don't think you've really thought hard about the issues... you've just credited Obama because that suits you.
 

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