The Karelian question or Karelian issue . European (Finnish) or Asiatic?

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Which is Karelia European (Finnish) or Asiatic (belongs to Maskal tribes )

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    Which is Karelia European (Finnish) or Asiatic (belongs to Maskal tribes ) ? my position is clear, Karelia is Finland, much like Crimea is Ukraine

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    The Karelian question or Karelian issue (Finnish: Karjala-kysymys) is a dispute in Finnish politics over whether to try to regain control over Finnish Karelia and ...
     
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    So called Maskal tribes were formed in Europe and are much more similar to other East European nations than to Asiatic ones.
     
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    not at all, they have been formed by great mongol czars (khans ) meanwhile eastern Europe is cold war term , read Anne Elizabeth Applebaum... second metro in Europe was build in Budapest , 2 most powerful republics were in "eastern " Europe ,
     
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    It is pointless, dude. Genetically and lingvistically, all contemporary East Slavic people - Russians, Ukrainians and Belorussians - are close. Yes, there are some regional differences. It is interesting that contemporary Russians have more Finno-Ugric blood than other Slavs.

    Politically yes, the rise of Moscow kingdom was the result of Mongol invasion.

    2 most powerful republics? What are them?
     
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    "Genetically and lingvistically, all contemporary East Slavic people - Russians, Ukrainians and Belorussians - are close" not at all i dont buy the racial theories, but if you like it , Maskal folk (heartlands) are Finnish Moksha
    The cradle of Russians, an obvious Finno-Volgaic genetic ...

    https://indo-european.eu › 2019/04 › the-cradle-of-russian-expansion-an-o...

    Apr 17, 2019 - The cradle of Russians, an obvious Finno-Volgaic genetic hotspot ... During that interval, the Russians encountered the Finns, Ugrians, and Samoyeds ... of the PCA plot are associated with longitude and latitude, respectively, of the ... Y-DNA haplogroups of Tuvinian tribes show little effect of the Mongol ..

    than Maskal geographical names( toponim) are Finnish , in Belarus they are Balto -Slavic

    "2 most powerful republics?" Crown (Poland) and GDL (Belarus)
     
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    Then, if this theory will be taken into account, your entire OP is meaningless, because the Russians and Finns are something like cousins and it doesn't matter to which one Karelia belongs.

    Well, they weren't republics. Yes, they had some authority back then, especially Poland, but to call them most powerful... It is a little exaggeration.

    Your native Belarus stopped being a wasteland purely thanks to Bolsheviks.
     
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    Battle of the Trolls?

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    " doesn't matter to which one Karelia belongs. " yes it does not , thats why it will be Finnish again they take care much better

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    weren't republics." you are wrong, even today term RP uses as the synonym for republic in Poland .


    its funny to see here a Jew , who defends here Muscovite "orthodox" church & black100 imperial concept of "3 Russian nations ". the same group of people introduced term & practices of pogroms to the world


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    Actually, the term Rech Pospolita doesn't have the only meaning it is used now. I am sure you can google it yourself. RP was union of the Kingdom of Poland and the Great Duchy of Lithuania. How these countries considering their names could be reoublics can be explained only in your parallel world, I suppose.

    I am not a Jew, it is the first.

    Second. I have never defended the Orthodox church. I will tell you even more - I consider it as an institution which should be abolished.

    Third. To say frankly, the Ukrainians (if the contemporary term should be used) engaged in these pogroms voluntarily and being sure that they were doing a right thing.
     

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