The Judgments against God.

This is a typical response in each forum I preach the gospel in. This is why God has to destroy the world as we know it and get rid of the corrupt flesh that he made for each of us. He could never put up with his people judging him like this forever. The end is soon here so if anyone decides to ask forgiveness of judging God in this forum, come to me and ask him.

Damn, so he's going to destroy this world because people pick on you!?!? That's instane!! :eusa_angel:

Dear Godspeaker: You know that most attacks on God or Christianity take the form of "straw man" arguments. Defining God or Christianity to be fraudulent abuses, and then attacking that and saying that is wrong or doesn't exist. Most of these arguments are right; what they fail to do is recognize the TRUE meanings and purpose behind faith in God and Christ and to credit THAT in contrast. The CORRUPT abuses of these, of course, deserve to be judged and rebuked.

Dear Nate: to translate the concept behind what GS said into secular terms:
if you equate "God's will" to mean what is "the greatest good for all humanity and creation" and define "God's truth" to be "universal truth across all time and cultures" then anything that is in harmony with what is "universally true and good for all equally" builds peaceful constructive relations on earth; while whatever is in conflict due to competing self interests or abuse of relationships causes destruction. That is true in general. That is why it is better to seek what is mutually good and true in all our relationships, to prevent undue suffering and damage and to restore spiritual satisfaction and peace, like respecting the "pursuit of happiness" for all people equally not just ourselves. When everyone does that, and works for common goals and effects we agree upon as the best for all, that is what it means to follow "God's will through Christ," or "good will by conscience."
 
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RE: retribution vs. restoration

most people are not like this

most people do NOT deserve to be destroyed by your god

the fact that you and your god want to murder billions of innocent people simply because of a few bad apples does not speak well for either you or your god

I agree that collective punishment is not necessary, to destroy the good along with the bad to weed out the bad. That is Old Testament history, and that was changed with the New Testament where Jesus Christ brings redemption.

Instead of retributive justice by the letter of the law, which brings destruction as in the OT, Christ Jesus brings "restorative justice" by the spirit of the law which makes all things new.
Restores healthy peaceful spiritual relations by "healing grace and charity" where these had been destroyed by ill will, fear and conflict. Establishes truth by forgiveness, correction and agreement to set people free from division and strife, carried from past to future generations in a "vicious cycle" of sin and suffering which is broken in Christ Jesus.

The only thing "destroyed" by the renewed spirit of truth and restorative justice, is the false ways of retribution, of abusing power and relationships, even laws of either the church or state, for self-serving interests instead of seeking and serving the public good.

The false economy, false world, false religions, THAT is the "false society" that will come to an end. We already see that happening now, where anything based on usury, corruption, and abuse is bankrupt and cannot be sustained.

But what remains and will rise to prominence are the sustainable ways of love, charity, true and good will that have always kept the world going:
* cooperative economics which builds sustainable prosperity (instead of unfair competition which brings waste and destruction of resources)
* restorative justice which heals and builds working relations (instead of retributive justice which destroys them)
* collective responsibility which builds communities (instead of collective punishment which destroys them)

Only those who have invoked or incurred destructive means on others, will those ways be destroyed. But if you are among the meek who have served and invested charity in others, by forgiveness and love of humanity, that part is what is sustained.

You get the justice by which you have judged others, either with mercy or without!
Either the retributive/collective punishment type if that is what you have practiced.
Or the restorative/collaborative approach to correction and restitution if you live by that.
 
This is a typical response in each forum I preach the gospel in. This is why God has to destroy the world as we know it and get rid of the corrupt flesh that he made for each of us. He could never put up with his people judging him like this forever. The end is soon here so if anyone decides to ask forgiveness of judging God in this forum, come to me and ask him.

Damn, so he's going to destroy this world because people pick on you!?!? That's instane!! :eusa_angel:

Dear Godspeaker: You know that most attacks on God or Christianity take the form of "straw man" arguments. Defining God or Christianity to be fraudulent abuses, and then attacking that and saying that is wrong or doesn't exist. Most of these arguments are right; what they fail to do is recognize the TRUE meanings and purpose behind faith in God and Christ and to credit THAT in contrast. The CORRUPT abuses of these, of course, deserve to be judged and rebuked.

Dear Nate: to translate the concept behind what GS said into secular terms:
if you equate "God's will" to mean what is "the greatest good for all humanity and creation" and define "God's truth" to be "universal truth across all time and cultures" then anything that is in harmony with what is "universally true and good for all equally" builds peaceful constructive relations on earth; while whatever is in conflict due to competing self interests or abuse of relationships causes destruction. That is true in general. That is why it is better to seek what is mutually good and true in all our relationships, to prevent undue suffering and damage and to restore spiritual satisfaction and peace, like respecting the "pursuit of happiness" for all people equally not just ourselves. When everyone does that, and works for common goals and effects we agree upon as the best for all, that is what it means to follow "God's will through Christ," or "good will by conscience."

The following prophecy was written by Daniel, a prophet of God's who received a message from him through the dreams of King Nebuchanezzar, the Babylonian king who had his army destroy Jerusalem and capture many Jews. Daniel's writings were about end time prophesies and this one in particular shows the religion of Christianity that came out of the fourth Kingdom, which was the Roman Empire.

Most people don't realize that the Roman government had a law forbidding the gospel being preached soon after the disciples became sinless saints and preached the same gospel as Jesus did, which is the voice of God. The Romans kept killing the saints until they were all eliminated by the early fourth century. With many followers left, the Romans had to find a way to deceive them so they started the religion of Christianity and changed the writings of some saints they killed to make a falsified new testament. This started the famine of the Word found in the prophesies of Amos 8:11-12 and Daniel 9:22-27.

The beast that Daniel interpreted had a head of gold to describe the Babylonian Empire. The silver chest and arms described the Persia-Medes Kingdom. The bronze belly and thighs was the Greek world rule and the legs of iron was the Roman Empire. The feet of iron and clay come out of the fourth Kingdom and is symbolic for a continued world power that will be destroyed at the end of this age.

The only world kingdom that has remained intact since the fourth kingdom of the Roman Empire is Christianity. The Vatican and the Roman Catholic church were a dominating world power for over a thousand years and they still have world influence. This is the symbolic iron feet of Daniel's beast and the clay symbolizes the Protestant churches with all it's denominations. Clay breaks into many pieces when struck on a hard object. This world power is in place today but it will be destroyed when the earth's crust is melted by hot lava, which won't be long from now.

Here's the prophecy that reveals Christianity as part of the beast that will be destroyed in the end.


Daniel 2
31: "You saw, O king, and behold, a great image. This image, mighty and of exceeding brightness, stood before you, and its appearance was frightening.
32: The head of this image was of fine gold, its breast and arms of silver, its belly and thighs of bronze,
33: its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of clay.
34: As you looked, a stone was cut out by no human hand, and it smote the image on its feet of iron and clay, and broke them in pieces;
35: then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver, and the gold, all together were broken in pieces, and became like the chaff of the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away, so that not a trace of them could be found. But the stone that struck the image became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.

40: And there shall be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron, because iron breaks to pieces and shatters all things; and like iron which crushes, it shall break and crush all these.
41: And as you saw the feet and toes partly of potter's clay and partly of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom; but some of the firmness of iron shall be in it, just as you saw iron mixed with the miry clay.
42: And as the toes of the feet were partly iron and partly clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly brittle.
43: As you saw the iron mixed with miry clay, so they will mix with one another in marriage, but they will not hold together, just as iron does not mix with clay.
44: And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall its sovereignty be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand for ever;
45: just as you saw that a stone was cut from a mountain by no human hand, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold. A great God has made known to the king what shall be hereafter. The dream is certain, and its interpretation sure."

This prophecy shows that the saints were killed by the Roman Empire ( horn) and that the saints will receive the kingdom after all these earthly kingdoms are destroyed.

Daniel 7
17: `These four great beasts are four kings who shall arise out of the earth.
18: But the saints of the Most High shall receive the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, for ever and ever.'
19: "Then I desired to know the truth concerning the fourth beast, which was different from all the rest, exceedingly terrible, with its teeth of iron and claws of bronze; and which devoured and broke in pieces, and stamped the residue with its feet;
20: and concerning the ten horns that were on its head, and the other horn which came up and before which three of them fell, the horn which had eyes and a mouth that spoke great things, and which seemed greater than its fellows.
21: As I looked, this horn made war with the saints, and prevailed over them
22: until the Ancient of Days came, and judgment was given for the saints of the Most High, and the time came when the saints received the kingdom.

23: "Thus he said: `As for the fourth beast, there shall be a fourth kingdom on earth, which shall be different from all the kingdoms, and it shall devour the whole earth, and trample it down, and break it to pieces.
 
Seek out medical help.

If you do, and you still know that you are the voice of god, you will have records to back your claim. If all of a sudden you are just Brad again, you are cured of an insanity.

It's a win-win.

This writing was written on June 16, 2008 as God was dictating the words to me. I had never read these words before and this is where I learned who I was.

Where is the God of the Bible

The Lord has been teaching me today about the truths of the Bible. They startled me but as I kept listening to the truth, I learned more about the great apostasy that’s been deceiving billions of people since the Bible was given to man.


This is the word of the Lord for those who hear my voice. I will keep you safe from the deception that will come forth from this word. This is the true spoken word from our Father who is in spirit. The spoken word of God comes with power that keeps the truth protected by using a loyal servant filled with the Holy Spirit and the spirit of truth to testify to the truth of this spoken word of God. This man, who I have chosen from long ago, was made spirit so that through him, I could send the message of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Like Jesus Christ and those who came after him, who also received this spirit, have all testified to this truth of the gospel that brings eternal life. The men of old, who also knew God, told about this Messiah that would lay down his life for those who know him and deliver them into the kingdom of God. All these men with faith knew God’s eternal plan to find the lost sheep and lead them home again. He used the faith that these chosen few received to use them in obedience to spread this gospel of Jesus Christ. With power and the truth that these words of God have been spoken, the gospel of Jesus Christ will reach safely to those who hear it. Without this power and the spirit of truth to testify to these words, the truth would no longer be in them and they would lay dead. It was established before my creation that the living word of God brought forth his creation of a perfect spirit filled world.


Everything that God speaks is the truth. Since he is the creator, there is no one to deny it. All his created images he spoke into this world. These spirit filled images that he created with his word, knew his voice because he lived as a spirit within them. Adam and Eve were created in his image. God is a spirit and he created them a spirit first. Then he put them into his kingdom and gave them all his creation, to live and enjoy his creation in union with God. He planted them a garden and put in two trees. One of them was the tree of life and they were told to eat of it.
The other tree was the tree of the fruit of good and evil and this one he said, was not to be eaten from because if they do, it will cause them to lose their union with God. This means that the spirit of God would no longer be in them.


Satan, the dark angel that was casted out of God’s realm, knew about this commandment of God so he approached Eve with a deceptive word that she believed. He told her that if she ate of the fruit of the tree of good and evil, that she could have all the world and the knowledge thereto and with that word of deception by Satan, she ate of the fruit of the tree of good and evil. Instantly, the spirit of God left her and exposed her to the dark world where Satan had been. With her guilt and shame for not listening to God, and knowing her union with him had parted, she went to deceive Adam to eat of the same fruit of the tree of good and evil, so that she wouldn’t be parted from her man Adam and live a life alone separated from God. After they broke their promise with God to not eat of the fruit of the tree of good and evil, they knew they had done wrong. God, knowing they had broken this promise, asked them what they were hiding from him. They told God that Satan had deceived them and told them to eat of the fruit of the tree of good and evil. God had told them to not eat the fruit of the tree of good and evil so that meant they broke their promise with him. It didn’t matter to God what happened to them once they broke this promise. The commandment to them was all that was required to stay in his holy grace, but Adam and Eve, by lying, blamed Satan instead. They couldn’t face the guilt and the shame of breaking God’s commandment; therefore they turned to their lives and their sorrows, and walked away from the spirit of their Father and creator of them. Without the spirit of God that gave them abundant life, they now had to live in toil and sweat. This new world of good and evil was the world they chose by not obeying the commandments of their God and Father.


The word of God comes with commandments for those who obey him and live by them. When you break the promise to obey his commandment, he asks for forgiveness instead of blame. This act of disobedience without forgiveness is the reason for separation from God.


After losing his first world’s creation to unforgiveness, God used Noah for his first act of faith. By faith, Noah listened to God and built an ark to usher in a new world and save some of God’s old creation. It is through faith that God’s new redemption plan will be used for the lost. The one’s who have broken the commandments with him. By faith it is possible to be saved in this age, if you believe in the Lord God Almighty. With this belief you will be saved and return to your God in spirit. With this new reunion between you and God, you can eat from the fruit of the tree of life again. By eating this fruit you will experience life in the way God intended for all his creation.


Faith was needed to restore his word so that it could be carried to the future foretold. If this word wouldn’t make it to the end of time, God would lose his whole creation. He knew Satan would try to deceive those who listen for their Master. The spoken word is the only way possible to get the word forward for those in the end to avoid the big deception that Satan had planned.


Each time a prophet or saint with God’s spirit, whose faith was in the true God our creator, was used by God to speak his true word, Satan would come in and attack it. The true word of God would soon begin to lose its power, when its words are changed, deleted or edited by men who did not have the spirit of God and the truth to testify to it. This is the reason God’s word had to be spoken through men who received his spirit because of their faith that God really existed. These men who have died in the flesh, by allowing God to come into their hearts and live in them, were given the spirit of truth so when God spoke his words into their hearts, they would know them to be true. This is why they always say their name and that they testify to these true words of God. If these words were not testified to be true, the words would have no power and the word would not go forward.


When Jesus Christ received God’s spirit, he knew he was a messenger of God because God reveals the whole truth of his word after receiving his spirit. Jesus Christ, with the knowledge of his Master and creator, spoke the true words of God as God moved him to speak them. Everything God told him to say, Jesus would obey him. So the spoken word, testified by Jesus, would be known by those who had faith in God. The people who have faith in the God who created the universe will hear this spoken word and know that it’s him. The word that has the power is the word without deception. When the word of God is altered through people without the truth in them, the spoken word of God will lose its truths to carry it to the end.


All the saints recorded in the Bible named Jesus, Peter, John, Paul and the others, were those of them who had the faith to allow God to speak through them, and make sure this word of God reaches to the end of times so people can be warned of the great deception of the Bible that was altered to deceive billions of people from hearing the true word of God. The Bible that was written many years ago, contained the spoken word of God but after Jesus begins speaking God’s word, Satan begin to attack it. Those people who heard this spoken word and knew it was God’s voice, were delivered into the kingdom of everlasting life. It was only faith that was needed to believe in the true God, to receive the spirit that was lost because of unforgiveness after disobeying his word.


This great deception got its start as soon as the true spoken word of God had been delivered. Satan and his demons begin to deceive those listening by altering the word, just like he had done to Adam and Eve after God had given them a command.
After Jesus Christ received the spirit of his Lord and Master, he was attacked by those who wouldn’t believe the true spoken word of God that was written in there Torah. Since Jesus Christ had the truth of God written in his heart, he knew exactly who was deceiving him. The spirit of God within him would speak the truth to these deceivers, which protected the truth until those who heard these words, were delivered by God.


After Jesus was convicted from those who deceived him of God’s truth, he was killed for his obedience to God’s holy will.
His spirit was witnessed by all his disciples and many others too. Jesus told them before he went back to his Father in spirit that he would send them the same spirit that he had when God was living in him. This was needed because God the Father knew the great deception ahead.


These faithful men of God and their new spirit filled souls went forth with the true word of God, witnessing to others who heard the voice of God. Their effort to spread the gospel of faith in the one true God in Jesus Christ our Lord, however, was stopped by the jealousy of the Jews, who because of their unbelief in their God that lived in Jesus Christ and their inability to stop this spirit with his persecution and death, they convinced the Roman leaders that the new movement in Christ would take over their kingdom and lose their world dominion.


They begin to kill all the saints and the believers thinking they would end the word that was delivering them to their kingdom, the kingdom they thought would threaten their world rule. After killing the saints who carried the true word of God within them, they gathered the believers in this Christ movement and told them they would protect them if they lived by their commandments. This new Roman Catholic Church consisting of believers in Christ, would soon be without the true gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. Without a new saint to bring forth God’s true word, they were unable to keep their faith in the Lord.


The former words of Jesus and his disciples were altered by men who didn’t have the spirit of God and this created chaos for those who believed in them. Many of the teachings that Jesus and his apostles wrote, were no longer the same gospel of our Lord. Without the gospel being told by a true saint, the true church of Jesus Christ was prevented to advance and the apostasy that came with it lasted till this hour, when Jesus Christ my God told me to send this true spoken word out.

For those of you who look for their God in the scriptures of old. You won’t find him because he is gone. He’s in the future right here in this word. He’s told you the truth of what happened to the true church of Jesus Christ. The cornerstone you see is the spirit of our Lord that could not be captured and contained. For God’s spirit only resides in those faithful servants who believed in him. The faith that Noah had to deliver God’s word into the next world is the same faith that’s needed to deliver his elect into the kingdom of God.


I, Brad Holkesvig, a saint in the Lord, have witnessed all these true words spoken by God. I was the one who wrote down the words that were given to me by God’s spirit and the spirit of truth that is within me recognized all these words to be true. God’s spoken word will go forth into the kingdom of heaven.

The title of Saint is a human title. God does not Saint anyone.

Seek medical help.

If what you claim is true, you have proof of who you claim to be.
If not, you will be cured and Brad can go on living a good life.

God dictated this writing to me by putting three words at a time on the tip of my tongue, then I typed them. I had no idea what the content of this writing was until after he made me proofread it and then read it the second time to show me who I was. It took him another year to show me that I was the only saint since the early fourth century to preach the gospel, which is the voice of God. Since then, I've learned that I was created as light energy that was used to create everything else in the universe.
 
Well speaker. You, Moses, Mohammed and GW Bush all had the same problem. Are you partaking of the Lawdz Mani every day too ?
Mani= "a small white thing that appears on the morning dew allowing one to speak to Gawd" = 'shrooms.
Amanita Muscaria to be exact.
 
Well speaker. You, Moses, Mohammed and GW Bush all had the same problem. Are you partaking of the Lawdz Mani every day too ?
Mani= "a small white thing that appears on the morning dew allowing one to speak to Gawd" = 'shrooms.
Amanita Muscaria to be exact.

I remember my days as an alcoholic and smoking weed. I met many people who speak like you.
 
Well speaker. You, Moses, Mohammed and GW Bush all had the same problem. Are you partaking of the Lawdz Mani every day too ?
Mani= "a small white thing that appears on the morning dew allowing one to speak to Gawd" = 'shrooms.
Amanita Muscaria to be exact.

I remember my days as an alcoholic and smoking weed. I met many people who speak like you.

Me thinks maybe you have graduated from weed to some of that blotter acid from the 70s.

Just sayin :lol:
 
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Well speaker. You, Moses, Mohammed and GW Bush all had the same problem. Are you partaking of the Lawdz Mani every day too ?
Mani= "a small white thing that appears on the morning dew allowing one to speak to Gawd" = 'shrooms.
Amanita Muscaria to be exact.

I remember my days as an alcoholic and smoking weed. I met many people who speak like you.

Me thinks maybe you have graduated from weed to some of that blotter acid from the 70s.

Just sayin :lol:

I know that you have the beast in your mind and the reason you can't understand a word I'm talking about.
 
I remember my days as an alcoholic and smoking weed. I met many people who speak like you.

Me thinks maybe you have graduated from weed to some of that blotter acid from the 70s.

Just sayin :lol:

I know that you have the beast in your mind and the reason you can't understand a word I'm talking about.

I understand it fine, I just know it's all an arrogant lie born of an arrogant man/woman
 
Me thinks maybe you have graduated from weed to some of that blotter acid from the 70s.

Just sayin :lol:

I know that you have the beast in your mind and the reason you can't understand a word I'm talking about.

I understand it fine, I just know it's all an arrogant lie born of an arrogant man/woman

You are contradicting yourself with that statement. If you understood what I was saying, then you would know who I am.
 
I know that you have the beast in your mind and the reason you can't understand a word I'm talking about.

I understand it fine, I just know it's all an arrogant lie born of an arrogant man/woman

You are contradicting yourself with that statement. If you understood what I was saying, then you would know who I am.

No contradiction, I am saying flat out your are a liar. Either that or you just don't know any better
 
I understand it fine, I just know it's all an arrogant lie born of an arrogant man/woman

You are contradicting yourself with that statement. If you understood what I was saying, then you would know who I am.

No contradiction, I am saying flat out your are a liar. Either that or you just don't know any better

Why did God use me to interpret Daniel 2: 36-45 and discover that Christianity is the feet of iron and clay of the beast that Daniel described. If I'm such a liar, God couldn't have interpreted that prophecy. I know that lying Christians come up with many excuses to avoid this revelation from God but that's to be expected with the beast in their minds.
 
You are contradicting yourself with that statement. If you understood what I was saying, then you would know who I am.

No contradiction, I am saying flat out your are a liar. Either that or you just don't know any better

Why did God use me to interpret Daniel 2: 36-45 and discover that Christianity is the feet of iron and clay of the beast that Daniel described. If I'm such a liar, God couldn't have interpreted that prophecy. I know that lying Christians come up with many excuses to avoid this revelation from God but that's to be expected with the beast in their minds.

You are wrong. I'll play along though, here's what Matthew Henrey says about those verses:

Commentary on Daniel 2:31-45

(Read Daniel 2:31-45)

This image represented the kingdoms of the earth, that should successively rule the nations, and influence the affairs of the Jewish church. 1. The head of gold signified the Chaldean empire, then in being. 2. The breast and arms of silver signified the empire of the Medes and Persians. 3. The belly and thighs of brass signified the Grecian empire, founded by Alexander. 4. The legs and feet of iron signified the Roman empire. The Roman empire branched into ten kingdoms, as the toes of these feet. Some were weak as clay, others strong as iron. Endeavours have often been used to unite them, for strengthening the empire, but in vain. The stone cut out without hands, represented the kingdom of our Lord Jesus Christ, which should be set up in the kingdoms of the world, upon the ruins of Satan's kingdom in them. This was the Stone which the builders refused, because it was not cut out by their hands, but it is become the head stone of the corner. Of the increase of Christ's government and peace there shall be no end. The Lord shall reign, not only to the end of time, but when time and days shall be no more. As far as events have gone, the fulfilling this prophetic vision has been most exact and undeniable; future ages shall witness this Stone destroying the image, and filling the whole earth.
 
get behind me Satan

Welcome to the boards asshole.

You're gonna be fun to kick around.

welcome back rep!

Don't let these people drag you down brother (or sister)

You're a fucking moron dude.

I love you! ♥

you are an idiot

you are a retard

dude you need some reps

Pathetic!

Ahh the old I was a bigger sinner than you routine. I have heard it from about every
preacher I have met.

blasphemer!

You're instane!

Not a very good troll. Sorry.


This is a typical response in each forum I preach the gospel in. This is why God has to destroy the world as we know it and get rid of the corrupt flesh that he made for each of us. He could never put up with his people judging him like this forever. The end is soon here so if anyone decides to ask forgiveness of judging God in this forum, come to me and ask him.

This is even better than when PI said people were going to die in the upcoming civil war because people were negging him!

Outstanding! :thup:
 
get behind me Satan

Welcome to the boards asshole.

You're gonna be fun to kick around.

welcome back rep!

Don't let these people drag you down brother (or sister)

You're a fucking moron dude.

I love you! ♥

you are an idiot

you are a retard

dude you need some reps

Pathetic!

Ahh the old I was a bigger sinner than you routine. I have heard it from about every
preacher I have met.

blasphemer!

You're instane!

Not a very good troll. Sorry.


This is a typical response in each forum I preach the gospel in. This is why God has to destroy the world as we know it and get rid of the corrupt flesh that he made for each of us. He could never put up with his people judging him like this forever. The end is soon here so if anyone decides to ask forgiveness of judging God in this forum, come to me and ask him.

This is even better than when PI said people were going to die in the upcoming civil war because people were negging him!

Outstanding! :thup:

Everyone has to die during this age and when there's an end to something, there will always be those who say it wasn't fair because they didn't get to live out their lives here. Who cares about that when millions of fetuses never got a chance to live at all. African children die in the fields from starvation and aids. The vultures eat there flesh as their dying. Billions of children died in the past before they reached the age of 6. Who cares about your cute child who just turned two. God isn't emotional but he's the one who gives live forever. Our next bodies will never die.
 
No contradiction, I am saying flat out your are a liar. Either that or you just don't know any better

Why did God use me to interpret Daniel 2: 36-45 and discover that Christianity is the feet of iron and clay of the beast that Daniel described. If I'm such a liar, God couldn't have interpreted that prophecy. I know that lying Christians come up with many excuses to avoid this revelation from God but that's to be expected with the beast in their minds.

You are wrong. I'll play along though, here's what Matthew Henrey says about those verses:

Commentary on Daniel 2:31-45

(Read Daniel 2:31-45)

This image represented the kingdoms of the earth, that should successively rule the nations, and influence the affairs of the Jewish church. 1. The head of gold signified the Chaldean empire, then in being. 2. The breast and arms of silver signified the empire of the Medes and Persians. 3. The belly and thighs of brass signified the Grecian empire, founded by Alexander. 4. The legs and feet of iron signified the Roman empire. The Roman empire branched into ten kingdoms, as the toes of these feet. Some were weak as clay, others strong as iron. Endeavours have often been used to unite them, for strengthening the empire, but in vain. The stone cut out without hands, represented the kingdom of our Lord Jesus Christ, which should be set up in the kingdoms of the world, upon the ruins of Satan's kingdom in them. This was the Stone which the builders refused, because it was not cut out by their hands, but it is become the head stone of the corner. Of the increase of Christ's government and peace there shall be no end. The Lord shall reign, not only to the end of time, but when time and days shall be no more. As far as events have gone, the fulfilling this prophetic vision has been most exact and undeniable; future ages shall witness this Stone destroying the image, and filling the whole earth.

All sinners listen to other sinners instead of the truth. That way, they can keep sinning.

The following prophecy was written by Daniel, a prophet of God's who received a message from him through the dreams of King Nebuchanezzar, the Babylonian king who had his army destroy Jerusalem and capture many Jews. Daniel's writings were about end time prophesies and this one in particular shows the religion of Christianity that came out of the fourth Kingdom, which was the Roman Empire.

Most people don't realize that the Roman government had a law forbidding the gospel being preached soon after the disciples became sinless saints and preached the same gospel as Jesus did, which is the voice of God. The Romans kept killing the saints until they were all eliminated by the early fourth century. With many followers left, the Romans had to find a way to deceive them so they started the religion of Christianity and changed the writings of some saints they killed to make a falsified new testament. This started the famine of the Word found in the prophesies of Amos 8:11-12 and Daniel 9:22-27.

The beast that Daniel interpreted had a head of gold to describe the Babylonian Empire. The silver chest and arms described the Persia-Medes Kingdom. The bronze belly and thighs was the Greek world rule and the legs of iron was the Roman Empire. The feet of iron and clay come out of the fourth Kingdom and is symbolic for a continued world power that will be destroyed at the end of this age.

The only world kingdom that has remained intact since the fourth kingdom of the Roman Empire is Christianity. The Vatican and the Roman Catholic church were a dominating world power for over a thousand years and they still have world influence. This is the symbolic iron feet of Daniel's beast and the clay symbolizes the Protestant churches with all it's denominations. Clay breaks into many pieces when struck on a hard object. This world power is in place today but it will be destroyed when the earth's crust is melted by hot lava, which won't be long from now.

Here's the prophecy that reveals Christianity as part of the beast that will be destroyed in the end.


Daniel 2
31: "You saw, O king, and behold, a great image. This image, mighty and of exceeding brightness, stood before you, and its appearance was frightening.
32: The head of this image was of fine gold, its breast and arms of silver, its belly and thighs of bronze,
33: its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of clay.
34: As you looked, a stone was cut out by no human hand, and it smote the image on its feet of iron and clay, and broke them in pieces;
35: then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver, and the gold, all together were broken in pieces, and became like the chaff of the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away, so that not a trace of them could be found. But the stone that struck the image became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.

40: And there shall be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron, because iron breaks to pieces and shatters all things; and like iron which crushes, it shall break and crush all these.
41: And as you saw the feet and toes partly of potter's clay and partly of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom; but some of the firmness of iron shall be in it, just as you saw iron mixed with the miry clay.
42: And as the toes of the feet were partly iron and partly clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly brittle.
43: As you saw the iron mixed with miry clay, so they will mix with one another in marriage, but they will not hold together, just as iron does not mix with clay.
44: And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall its sovereignty be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand for ever;
45: just as you saw that a stone was cut from a mountain by no human hand, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold. A great God has made known to the king what shall be hereafter. The dream is certain, and its interpretation sure."

This prophecy shows that the saints were killed by the Roman Empire ( horn) and that the saints will receive the kingdom after all these earthly kingdoms are destroyed.

Daniel 7
17: `These four great beasts are four kings who shall arise out of the earth.
18: But the saints of the Most High shall receive the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, for ever and ever.'
19: "Then I desired to know the truth concerning the fourth beast, which was different from all the rest, exceedingly terrible, with its teeth of iron and claws of bronze; and which devoured and broke in pieces, and stamped the residue with its feet;
20: and concerning the ten horns that were on its head, and the other horn which came up and before which three of them fell, the horn which had eyes and a mouth that spoke great things, and which seemed greater than its fellows.
21: As I looked, this horn made war with the saints, and prevailed over them
22: until the Ancient of Days came, and judgment was given for the saints of the Most High, and the time came when the saints received the kingdom.

23: "Thus he said: `As for the fourth beast, there shall be a fourth kingdom on earth, which shall be different from all the kingdoms, and it shall devour the whole earth, and trample it down, and break it to pieces.
 
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Why did God use me to interpret Daniel 2: 36-45 and discover that Christianity is the feet of iron and clay of the beast that Daniel described. If I'm such a liar, God couldn't have interpreted that prophecy. I know that lying Christians come up with many excuses to avoid this revelation from God but that's to be expected with the beast in their minds.

You are wrong. I'll play along though, here's what Matthew Henrey says about those verses:

Commentary on Daniel 2:31-45

(Read Daniel 2:31-45)

This image represented the kingdoms of the earth, that should successively rule the nations, and influence the affairs of the Jewish church. 1. The head of gold signified the Chaldean empire, then in being. 2. The breast and arms of silver signified the empire of the Medes and Persians. 3. The belly and thighs of brass signified the Grecian empire, founded by Alexander. 4. The legs and feet of iron signified the Roman empire. The Roman empire branched into ten kingdoms, as the toes of these feet. Some were weak as clay, others strong as iron. Endeavours have often been used to unite them, for strengthening the empire, but in vain. The stone cut out without hands, represented the kingdom of our Lord Jesus Christ, which should be set up in the kingdoms of the world, upon the ruins of Satan's kingdom in them. This was the Stone which the builders refused, because it was not cut out by their hands, but it is become the head stone of the corner. Of the increase of Christ's government and peace there shall be no end. The Lord shall reign, not only to the end of time, but when time and days shall be no more. As far as events have gone, the fulfilling this prophetic vision has been most exact and undeniable; future ages shall witness this Stone destroying the image, and filling the whole earth.

All sinners listen to other sinners instead of the truth. That way, they can keep sinning.

The following prophecy was written by Daniel, a prophet of God's who received a message from him through the dreams of King Nebuchanezzar, the Babylonian king who had his army destroy Jerusalem and capture many Jews. Daniel's writings were about end time prophesies and this one in particular shows the religion of Christianity that came out of the fourth Kingdom, which was the Roman Empire.

Most people don't realize that the Roman government had a law forbidding the gospel being preached soon after the disciples became sinless saints and preached the same gospel as Jesus did, which is the voice of God. The Romans kept killing the saints until they were all eliminated by the early fourth century. With many followers left, the Romans had to find a way to deceive them so they started the religion of Christianity and changed the writings of some saints they killed to make a falsified new testament. This started the famine of the Word found in the prophesies of Amos 8:11-12 and Daniel 9:22-27.

The beast that Daniel interpreted had a head of gold to describe the Babylonian Empire. The silver chest and arms described the Persia-Medes Kingdom. The bronze belly and thighs was the Greek world rule and the legs of iron was the Roman Empire. The feet of iron and clay come out of the fourth Kingdom and is symbolic for a continued world power that will be destroyed at the end of this age.

The only world kingdom that has remained intact since the fourth kingdom of the Roman Empire is Christianity. The Vatican and the Roman Catholic church were a dominating world power for over a thousand years and they still have world influence. This is the symbolic iron feet of Daniel's beast and the clay symbolizes the Protestant churches with all it's denominations. Clay breaks into many pieces when struck on a hard object. This world power is in place today but it will be destroyed when the earth's crust is melted by hot lava, which won't be long from now.

Here's the prophecy that reveals Christianity as part of the beast that will be destroyed in the end.


Daniel 2
31: "You saw, O king, and behold, a great image. This image, mighty and of exceeding brightness, stood before you, and its appearance was frightening.
32: The head of this image was of fine gold, its breast and arms of silver, its belly and thighs of bronze,
33: its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of clay.
34: As you looked, a stone was cut out by no human hand, and it smote the image on its feet of iron and clay, and broke them in pieces;
35: then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver, and the gold, all together were broken in pieces, and became like the chaff of the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away, so that not a trace of them could be found. But the stone that struck the image became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.

40: And there shall be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron, because iron breaks to pieces and shatters all things; and like iron which crushes, it shall break and crush all these.
41: And as you saw the feet and toes partly of potter's clay and partly of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom; but some of the firmness of iron shall be in it, just as you saw iron mixed with the miry clay.
42: And as the toes of the feet were partly iron and partly clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly brittle.
43: As you saw the iron mixed with miry clay, so they will mix with one another in marriage, but they will not hold together, just as iron does not mix with clay.
44: And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall its sovereignty be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand for ever;
45: just as you saw that a stone was cut from a mountain by no human hand, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold. A great God has made known to the king what shall be hereafter. The dream is certain, and its interpretation sure."

This prophecy shows that the saints were killed by the Roman Empire ( horn) and that the saints will receive the kingdom after all these earthly kingdoms are destroyed.

Daniel 7
17: `These four great beasts are four kings who shall arise out of the earth.
18: But the saints of the Most High shall receive the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, for ever and ever.'
19: "Then I desired to know the truth concerning the fourth beast, which was different from all the rest, exceedingly terrible, with its teeth of iron and claws of bronze; and which devoured and broke in pieces, and stamped the residue with its feet;
20: and concerning the ten horns that were on its head, and the other horn which came up and before which three of them fell, the horn which had eyes and a mouth that spoke great things, and which seemed greater than its fellows.
21: As I looked, this horn made war with the saints, and prevailed over them
22: until the Ancient of Days came, and judgment was given for the saints of the Most High, and the time came when the saints received the kingdom.

23: "Thus he said: `As for the fourth beast, there shall be a fourth kingdom on earth, which shall be different from all the kingdoms, and it shall devour the whole earth, and trample it down, and break it to pieces.

The Daniel prophesy is about Christ and those who trust Him as Savior.

I guess I can in part understand you misinterpretation in chapter 2, but you blew it when you went to 7.

That saints are the Christian Believers
 
You are wrong. I'll play along though, here's what Matthew Henrey says about those verses:

Commentary on Daniel 2:31-45

(Read Daniel 2:31-45)

This image represented the kingdoms of the earth, that should successively rule the nations, and influence the affairs of the Jewish church. 1. The head of gold signified the Chaldean empire, then in being. 2. The breast and arms of silver signified the empire of the Medes and Persians. 3. The belly and thighs of brass signified the Grecian empire, founded by Alexander. 4. The legs and feet of iron signified the Roman empire. The Roman empire branched into ten kingdoms, as the toes of these feet. Some were weak as clay, others strong as iron. Endeavours have often been used to unite them, for strengthening the empire, but in vain. The stone cut out without hands, represented the kingdom of our Lord Jesus Christ, which should be set up in the kingdoms of the world, upon the ruins of Satan's kingdom in them. This was the Stone which the builders refused, because it was not cut out by their hands, but it is become the head stone of the corner. Of the increase of Christ's government and peace there shall be no end. The Lord shall reign, not only to the end of time, but when time and days shall be no more. As far as events have gone, the fulfilling this prophetic vision has been most exact and undeniable; future ages shall witness this Stone destroying the image, and filling the whole earth.

All sinners listen to other sinners instead of the truth. That way, they can keep sinning.

The following prophecy was written by Daniel, a prophet of God's who received a message from him through the dreams of King Nebuchanezzar, the Babylonian king who had his army destroy Jerusalem and capture many Jews. Daniel's writings were about end time prophesies and this one in particular shows the religion of Christianity that came out of the fourth Kingdom, which was the Roman Empire.

Most people don't realize that the Roman government had a law forbidding the gospel being preached soon after the disciples became sinless saints and preached the same gospel as Jesus did, which is the voice of God. The Romans kept killing the saints until they were all eliminated by the early fourth century. With many followers left, the Romans had to find a way to deceive them so they started the religion of Christianity and changed the writings of some saints they killed to make a falsified new testament. This started the famine of the Word found in the prophesies of Amos 8:11-12 and Daniel 9:22-27.

The beast that Daniel interpreted had a head of gold to describe the Babylonian Empire. The silver chest and arms described the Persia-Medes Kingdom. The bronze belly and thighs was the Greek world rule and the legs of iron was the Roman Empire. The feet of iron and clay come out of the fourth Kingdom and is symbolic for a continued world power that will be destroyed at the end of this age.

The only world kingdom that has remained intact since the fourth kingdom of the Roman Empire is Christianity. The Vatican and the Roman Catholic church were a dominating world power for over a thousand years and they still have world influence. This is the symbolic iron feet of Daniel's beast and the clay symbolizes the Protestant churches with all it's denominations. Clay breaks into many pieces when struck on a hard object. This world power is in place today but it will be destroyed when the earth's crust is melted by hot lava, which won't be long from now.

Here's the prophecy that reveals Christianity as part of the beast that will be destroyed in the end.


Daniel 2
31: "You saw, O king, and behold, a great image. This image, mighty and of exceeding brightness, stood before you, and its appearance was frightening.
32: The head of this image was of fine gold, its breast and arms of silver, its belly and thighs of bronze,
33: its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of clay.
34: As you looked, a stone was cut out by no human hand, and it smote the image on its feet of iron and clay, and broke them in pieces;
35: then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver, and the gold, all together were broken in pieces, and became like the chaff of the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away, so that not a trace of them could be found. But the stone that struck the image became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.

40: And there shall be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron, because iron breaks to pieces and shatters all things; and like iron which crushes, it shall break and crush all these.
41: And as you saw the feet and toes partly of potter's clay and partly of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom; but some of the firmness of iron shall be in it, just as you saw iron mixed with the miry clay.
42: And as the toes of the feet were partly iron and partly clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly brittle.
43: As you saw the iron mixed with miry clay, so they will mix with one another in marriage, but they will not hold together, just as iron does not mix with clay.
44: And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall its sovereignty be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand for ever;
45: just as you saw that a stone was cut from a mountain by no human hand, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold. A great God has made known to the king what shall be hereafter. The dream is certain, and its interpretation sure."

This prophecy shows that the saints were killed by the Roman Empire ( horn) and that the saints will receive the kingdom after all these earthly kingdoms are destroyed.

Daniel 7
17: `These four great beasts are four kings who shall arise out of the earth.
18: But the saints of the Most High shall receive the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, for ever and ever.'
19: "Then I desired to know the truth concerning the fourth beast, which was different from all the rest, exceedingly terrible, with its teeth of iron and claws of bronze; and which devoured and broke in pieces, and stamped the residue with its feet;
20: and concerning the ten horns that were on its head, and the other horn which came up and before which three of them fell, the horn which had eyes and a mouth that spoke great things, and which seemed greater than its fellows.
21: As I looked, this horn made war with the saints, and prevailed over them
22: until the Ancient of Days came, and judgment was given for the saints of the Most High, and the time came when the saints received the kingdom.

23: "Thus he said: `As for the fourth beast, there shall be a fourth kingdom on earth, which shall be different from all the kingdoms, and it shall devour the whole earth, and trample it down, and break it to pieces.

The Daniel prophesy is about Christ and those who trust Him as Savior.

I guess I can in part understand you misinterpretation in chapter 2, but you blew it when you went to 7.

That saints are the Christian Believers

The saints are sinless chosen ones of God like Jesus and the prophets. The prophets couldn't be made sinless because the flesh of Jesus had to be sacrificed first. So God couldn't reveal his knowledge in their hearts, minds and souls. He could only get them obedient with commands and force them to write and speak inspired words. This is how he got his written prophecies and stories for their vocabulary.

Most of the prophets were killed by the Jews who had the beast in their minds after coming back from Babylonian captivity. The Babylonians were pagan worshipers who had the beast in their minds. They contaminated the memories and thoughts of the Jews and all their territory they ruled. The Persians developed the beast in their mind and eventually conquered Babylon. Then the Greeks with the beast in their minds took over the Persians and then Rome defeated the Greeks because they also had the beast in their minds.

Then Jesus was planted at the time when God knew the Romans with the beast would kill them all according to Revelation 20:4 and Revelation 6: 9-11. Daniel 9: 22-27 also shows that Jesus and the saints were killed in the first half of the 70 weeks. In the last half of the week, all sacrifices and offerings ceased until the abomination enfolded, which is the end of the age. This last half correlates with Amos 8:11-12, which is the prophecy about the famine of the word. Everyone would be looking for the truth after the saints were killed who were preaching the truth of God. This is when Christianity was started and still exists. They dominate the world with their false gospel and teachings.

You don't have to tell me lies to defend your false religion which I know all about. I know more about Christianity than any Christian has ever known.
 

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