The Joy of Socialized Health Care

[HenryBHough]

Warning: Photographs many will find disgusting.

This unfortunate scientist finally has decided he probably will have to go to India to have the surgery he needs and at his own expense after being rejected by Britain's National Health Bureaucracy.

Sincere and final warning: DO not click on the link below if you do not have an exceptionally strong stomach!

NHS crisis Body shock NASA scientist branded Elephant Man must pay 12k for surgery UK News Daily Express

From the article:

"These horrific photographs show Scottish Michael Cull, 66 - a patient let down by the NHS postcode lottery."

"Misdiagnosed and denied treatment, Mr Cull says he has been ignored by the public health service, which should have noticed his swelling legs “a long time ago”.

"Mr Cull, who is barely mobile and is constantly taunted by cruel members of the public, has had elephantiasis in his left leg for the past decade, causing massive swelling normally only seen in third world countries."

Is this what you want?

Is this not sort of nationalized health care that you "progressives" really, really, really want?

 

[Disir]

Don't be daft. Nobody wants elephantiasis.

But, yes, universal health care.

 

[Political Junky]

I'll bet if you searched you could find some gruesome stories that took place here, under private health care.

 

[Conservative65]

Don't be daft. Nobody wants elephantiasis.

But, yes, universal health care.

Universal healthcare. Another way of saying those who have will be forced to fund something for those who don't.

 

[Disir]

Don't be daft. Nobody wants elephantiasis.

But, yes, universal health care.

Universal healthcare. Another way of saying those who have will be forced to fund something for those who don't.

Universal healthcare. Another way of saying that it will actually be more cost effective. The private industry is thought to be doing this much cheaper and more effectively. They don't. So we pay more now then we should have to.

 

[HenryBHough]

Universal healthcare. Rationing by another name.

 

[Conservative65]

Don't be daft. Nobody wants elephantiasis.

But, yes, universal health care.

Universal healthcare. Another way of saying those who have will be forced to fund something for those who don't.

Universal healthcare. Another way of saying that it will actually be more cost effective. The private industry is thought to be doing this much cheaper and more effectively. They don't. So we pay more now then we should have to.

Universal healthcare. Another way of saying socialism.

From my personal experience, private insurance has done well for me. In the past 6 months, I've had a knee replacement, a cardiac stress test, a heart cath, and an ultrasound. Total costs for me out of pocket - $750. I'd say that's cheap compared to what I know the actual cost was. I don't know about you but I consider paying only $750 out of pocket for what amounted to more than $100,000 work of medical bills as not paying very much. I am not willing to allow the government to do something that would risk the deal I have for ME.

 

[Publius1787]

I'll bet if you searched you could find some gruesome stories that took place here, under private health care.

You call this private health care? What percentage do you consider our healthcare "private?"

 

[Sun Devil 92]

I'll bet if you searched you could find some gruesome stories that took place here, under private health care.

You call this private health care? What percentage do you consider our healthcare "private?"

You beat me to it.

Our health care system is regulated heavily. I don't know if that is good or bad....but it sure does not justify the use of the term "private" health care.

 

[|electric|foxy|]

People have not learned yet to treat such diseases.

 

[Syriusly]

And then we have stories of how well our old healthcare/insurance system was working:

In need of a new hip but priced out of the U.S. - HT Health

WARSAW, Ind. — Michael Shopenn’s artificial hip was made by a company based in this remote town, a global center of joint manufacturing. But he had to fly to Europe to have it installed.

Shopenn, 67, an architectural photographer and avid snowboarder, had been in such pain from arthritis that he could not stand long enough to make coffee, let alone work. He had health insurance, but it would not cover a joint replacement because his degenerative disease was related to an old sports injury, thus considered a pre-existing condition.

Michael Shopenn, who has an artificial hip, on Copper Mountain in Colorado. Joint replacements have grown sharply. (New York Times)

Desperate to find an affordable solution, he reached out to a sailing buddy with friends at a medical device manufacturer, which arranged to provide his local hospital with an implant at what was described as the “list price” of $13,000, with no markup. But when the hospital’s finance office estimated that the hospital charges would run another $65,000, not including the surgeon’s fee, he knew he had to think outside the box.

“That was a third of my savings at the time,” Shopenn said recently from the living room of his condo in Boulder, Colo. “It wasn’t happening.”

“Very leery” of going to a developing country like India or Thailand, which both draw medical tourists, he chose to have his hip replaced in 2007 at a private hospital outside Brussels for $13,660. That price included not only a hip joint, made by Warsaw-based Zimmer Holdings, but also all doctors’ fees, operating room charges, crutches, medicine, a hospital room for five days, a week in rehab and a round-trip ticket from America.

“We have the most expensive health care in the world, but it doesn’t necessarily mean it’s the best,” Shopenn said. “I’m kind of the poster child for that.”

 

[Marxist]

You can find horror stories about private healthcare and social healthcare, one of them is clearly better and used by most of the civilized states.

 

[CowboyTed]

Michael Cull s left leg ballooned a decade ago after a car accident Real Life Tragic Funny Strange Uplifting Stories from the UK Daily Star

Listen this case is hard to confirm because they are only in the red tops in UK which loves a sensational story....

The guy had this for ages and did nothing. All the NHS did was move the operation from his old home to the new one....

If anything this was a doctor screw up and not an insurance one. So if the Hard Right here want to compare Doctor screw ups and the fixing of them between the two countries then go on ahead.

Which country has more malpractice law suits?