The Jews Are Our Enemies Because They Are Infidels, Not Because They Occupied Palestine”

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The Jews Are Our Enemies Because They Are Infidels, Not Because They Occupied Palestine”


Seraphic Secret has long maintained that the Arab-Muslim war against Israel has nothing to do with land, boundaries, so-called refugees, so-called occupation, or national aspirations. Let’s face it, the so-called Palestinian people had a state in 1948 via the U.N. partition plan, but they and five Arab armies chose to invade Israel in an attempted war of annihilation.

No, the Arab-Muslim war against Israel is a war against Jews, against Judaism, a slow motion war with genocide as the end-game.

Of course, the Hamas Covenant states all this quite proudly.

And the PLO charter is equally articulate in its genocidal yearnings.

Naturally, liberal totalitarian enablers in the West choose to ignore basic facts in favor of so-called, ahem, reasoned criticism of Israel — unhinged Jew-hatred in disguise.

Thus, it’s nice to hear a Muslim cleric, in the “moderate” Arab state of Qatar, give voice to the frothing Jew-hatred that is a core belief of Islam.

The following is an excerpt from a Friday sermon delivered by Qatari cleric Sheik Muhammad Al-Muraikhi, which aired on Qatar TV on January 9, 2009.

Sheik Muhammad Al-Muraikhi:

We do not treat the Jews as our enemies just because they occupied Palestine, or because they occupied a precious part of our Arab and Islamic world. We will treat the Jews as our enemies even if they return Palestine to us, because they are infidels. They rejected Allah and His messengers.

Source: MEMRI


The Jews Are Our Enemies Because They Are Infidels Not Because They Occupied Palestine

Don't be fooled by Hamas denials to the contrary!
 
We 'rejected Allah and His messengers...'

So, all we gotta do is say Allah gave yet another 'updated' message confirming Judaism and refuting Islam? :) Then we could make the same arguement about Islam rejecting Allah and the latest message? :)
 
On the contrary.

Those who are enemies of the Palestinians make themselves so, by stealing Palestinian territory and the murderous ruthless methods by which they do it.



"We do not fight the Jews because they are Jews, we fight the Jews because they stole our lands, if our brothers stole our lands we would be fighting our brothers". Sheikh Yassin HAMAS founder.
 
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On the contrary.

Those who are enemies of the Palestinians make themselves so, by stealing Palestinian territory and the murderous ruthless methods by which they do it.



"We do not fight the Jews because they are Jews, we fight the Jews because they stole our lands, if our brothers stole our lands we would be fighting our brothers". Sheikh Yassin HAMAS founder.

Yeah beisem Allah El rahim khaybar layhudi
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On the contrary.

Those who are enemies of the Palestinians make themselves so, by stealing Palestinian territory and the murderous ruthless methods by which they do it.



"We do not fight the Jews because they are Jews, we fight the Jews because they stole our lands, if our brothers stole our lands we would be fighting our brothers". Sheikh Yassin HAMAS founder.


He is a proven liar.

Oh, what he said in your quote may be so. But the things he said there were meant, I say, to convince you of something which is essentially untrue.
 
Its their actions speak for themselves, words only serve their cause, so lying is something you can expect on regular basis, they can keep lying all day long, running their psychological warfare game, but in the end of the day.. they will be scratched off the ground with a rake.
Beism Allah elRahim wkol maamlyat.
 
Hey. You are the liars who are all for stealing more land from Palestine. Why would ANYONE take your dishonest interpretation of what your enemies are upset about?
 
So, one muslim makes a comment and that applies to islam in general? Like, you know its not possible for one sheik to make a comment that isnt held by the majority? You all seem to be grasping at straws here to defend israel.

Palestinians just wanna be treated like theyre humans, and not animals that need to be locked behind a cage by racist white people.
 
So, one muslim makes a comment and that applies to islam in general? Like, you know its not possible for one sheik to make a comment that isnt held by the majority? You all seem to be grasping at straws here to defend israel.

Palestinians just wanna be treated like theyre humans, and not animals that need to be locked behind a cage by racist white people.

If they won't want to be treated as animals, they should stop behaving as such.
 
So, one muslim makes a comment and that applies to islam in general? Like, you know its not possible for one sheik to make a comment that isnt held by the majority? You all seem to be grasping at straws here to defend israel.

Palestinians just wanna be treated like theyre humans, and not animals that need to be locked behind a cage by racist white people.
Its not about Islam for us(or Judaism, or any other religious aspects) its about the influence of radical Muslims on our lives.
 
So, one muslim makes a comment and that applies to islam in general? Like, you know its not possible for one sheik to make a comment that isnt held by the majority? You all seem to be grasping at straws here to defend israel.

Palestinians just wanna be treated like theyre humans, and not animals that need to be locked behind a cage by racist white people.

Would you believe it if I said there is no other nation on Earth more committed to helping bring about the positive changes everyone agrees is needed, than Israel?

"And if Israel is so damn committed to helping the Palestinian people then what is stopping them from relaxing its restrictions and barriers and deprivations and violence upon the Palestinian people?" you might ask.

The answer is obvious to all thinking people who can be honest with themselves.

The Palestinian people.

Only until the Palestinian people grow sufficiently tired of enduring such conditions will they throw off Hamas and reach a negotiated peace with Israel will these complaints which have become a tired litany of misdirected finger pointing, lying and bull shitting come to an end.

But they will never do this.

Why?

Because the war for global conquest is stalled there and it is trying the patience of some in the Muslim Ummah.

But, as far as the Palestinian leadership is concerned, which Muslim leader wants to go down in history as giving up Israel to the Zionist Apes and Pigs?

So, it will never happen.
 
So, one muslim makes a comment and that applies to islam in general? Like, you know its not possible for one sheik to make a comment that isnt held by the majority? You all seem to be grasping at straws here to defend israel.

Palestinians just wanna be treated like theyre humans, and not animals that need to be locked behind a cage by racist white people.
Its not about Islam for us(or Judaism, or any other religious aspects) its about the influence of radical Muslims on our lives.

Daniyel, thank you for providing all of the American posters a learning moment.

In your post you said, "Its not about Islam for us(or Judaism, or any other religious aspects) its about the influence of radical Muslims on our lives."

Every word of which I believe is true.

Now if, for example, an American with the safety of a 5,000 mile remove, had written that same sentence it would have been: "Its not about Islam for us(or Judaism, or any other religious aspects) its about the (POTENTIAL) influence of radical Muslims on our lives."

The difference of course is obvious.

Where we here in the USA see this as a FUTURE problem and one which is far away enough for some of us to pay it little or no attention...

You, and all non-Muslims in Israel have no such luxury. You must deal with the global war of conquest being waged by Jihadists up close and personally, every day.

I tip my cap to you all over there.

:)
 
So, one muslim makes a comment and that applies to islam in general? Like, you know its not possible for one sheik to make a comment that isnt held by the majority? You all seem to be grasping at straws here to defend israel.

Palestinians just wanna be treated like theyre humans, and not animals that need to be locked behind a cage by racist white people.

Only two types of people speak as you do.

Those who are uninformed.

And those who support racist Muslims.
 
So, one muslim makes a comment and that applies to islam in general? Like, you know its not possible for one sheik to make a comment that isnt held by the majority? You all seem to be grasping at straws here to defend israel.

Palestinians just wanna be treated like theyre humans, and not animals that need to be locked behind a cage by racist white people.
One?? There are plenty of videos in youtube of Islamic scum saying the same thing. They are not speaking their opinion, they are speaking on behalf of Islam and are encouraging their followers to believe them.

One Muslim?? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
 
The Peanut Gallery can conduct a search for the word 'taqiyya', and also 'kitman', and see for themselves that Islam is all about lying to non-believers, and even each other, so nothing any Islamic gangster vermin, be they an Hamas thug and murderer, or any other 'spokesman' for their degenerate sociopathic political cult is to be taken seriously at their word for anything. Googling is not as good as referring to the Koran itself, of course, which also encourages lying to 'infidels' as a matter of everyday discourse, but you can get the gist of it.

The Wiki article on it is deceptive, and softpedals the reality of how it is routinely used, especially by the likes of Arab Muslims, less so with Iranian and some North African flavors of Islam, but in general they're habitual liars for the most part.

A selection from the Koran and the hadiths on lying like a snake:

TheReligionofPeace - Islam Taqiyya and Lying

... and some examples:

Additional Notes:

Muslims are allowed to lie to unbelievers in order to defeat them. The two forms are:



Taqiyya - Saying something that isn't true.



Kitman - Lying by omission. An example would be when Muslim apologists quote only a fragment of verse 5:32 (that if anyone kills "it shall be as if he had killed all mankind") while neglecting to mention that the rest of the verse (and the next) mandate murder in undefined cases of "corruption" and "mischief."



Though not called Taqiyya by name, Muhammad clearly used deception when he signed a 10-year treaty with the Meccans that allowed him access to their city while he secretly prepared his own forces for a takeover. The unsuspecting residents were conquered in easy fashion after he broke the treaty two years later, and some of the people in the city who had trusted him at his word were executed.



Another example of lying is when Muhammad used deception to trick his personal enemies into letting down their guard and exposing themselves to slaughter by pretending to seek peace. This happened in the case of Ka'b bin al-Ashraf (as previously noted) and again later against Usayr ibn Zarim, a surviving leader of the Banu Nadir tribe, which had been evicted from their home in Medina by the Muslims.



At the time, Usayr ibn Zarim was attempting to gather an armed force against the Muslims from among a tribe allied with the Quraish (against which Muhammad had already declared war). Muhammad's "emissaries" went to ibn Zarim and persuaded him to leave his safe haven on the pretext of meeting with the prophet of Islam in Medina to discuss peace. Once vulnerable, the leader and his thirty companions were massacred by the Muslims with ease, belying the probability that they were mostly unarmed, having been given a guarantee of safe passage (Ibn Ishaq 981).



Such was the reputation of Muslims for lying and then killing that even those who "accepted Islam" did not feel entirely safe. The fate of the Jadhima is tragic evidence for this. When Muslim "missionaries" approached their tribe one of the members insisted that they would be slaughtered even though they had already "converted" to Islam to avoid just such a demise. However, the others were convinced that they could trust the Muslim leader's promise that they would not be harmed if they simply offered no resistance. (After convincing the skeptic to lay down his arms, the unarmed men of the tribe were quickly tied up and beheaded - Ibn Ishaq 834 & 837).



Today's Muslims often try to justify Muhammad's murder of poets and others who criticized him at Medina by saying that they broke a treaty by their actions. Yet, these same apologists place little value on treaties broken by Muslims. From Muhammad to Saddam Hussein, promises made to non-Muslim are distinctly non-binding in the Muslim mindset.



Leaders in the Arab world routinely say one thing to English-speaking audiences and then something entirely different to their own people in Arabic. Yassir Arafat was famous for telling Western newspapers about his desire for peace with Israel, then turning right around and whipping Palestinians into a hateful and violent frenzy against Jews.



The 9/11 hijackers practiced deception by going into bars and drinking alcohol, thus throwing off potential suspicion that they were fundamentalists plotting jihad. This effort worked so well, in fact, that even weeks after 9/11, John Walsh, the host of a popular American television show, said that their bar trips were evidence of 'hypocrisy.'
 
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The Peanut Gallery can conduct a search for the word 'taqiyya', and also 'kitman', and see for themselves that Islam is all about lying to non-believers, and even each other, so nothing any Islamic gangster vermin, be they an Hamas thug and murderer, or any other 'spokesman' for their degenerate sociopathic political cult is to be taken seriously at their word for anything. Googling is not as good as referring to the Koran itself, of course, which also encourages lying to 'infidels' as a matter of everyday discourse, but you can get the gist of it.

The Wiki article on it is deceptive, and softpedals the reality of how it is routinely used, especially by the likes of Arab Muslims, less so with Iranian and some North African flavors of Islam, but in general they're habitual liars for the most part.

A selection from the Koran and the hadiths on lying like a snake:

TheReligionofPeace - Islam Taqiyya and Lying

... and some examples:

Additional Notes:

Muslims are allowed to lie to unbelievers in order to defeat them. The two forms are:



Taqiyya - Saying something that isn't true.



Kitman - Lying by omission. An example would be when Muslim apologists quote only a fragment of verse 5:32 (that if anyone kills "it shall be as if he had killed all mankind") while neglecting to mention that the rest of the verse (and the next) mandate murder in undefined cases of "corruption" and "mischief."



Though not called Taqiyya by name, Muhammad clearly used deception when he signed a 10-year treaty with the Meccans that allowed him access to their city while he secretly prepared his own forces for a takeover. The unsuspecting residents were conquered in easy fashion after he broke the treaty two years later, and some of the people in the city who had trusted him at his word were executed.



Another example of lying is when Muhammad used deception to trick his personal enemies into letting down their guard and exposing themselves to slaughter by pretending to seek peace. This happened in the case of Ka'b bin al-Ashraf (as previously noted) and again later against Usayr ibn Zarim, a surviving leader of the Banu Nadir tribe, which had been evicted from their home in Medina by the Muslims.



At the time, Usayr ibn Zarim was attempting to gather an armed force against the Muslims from among a tribe allied with the Quraish (against which Muhammad had already declared war). Muhammad's "emissaries" went to ibn Zarim and persuaded him to leave his safe haven on the pretext of meeting with the prophet of Islam in Medina to discuss peace. Once vulnerable, the leader and his thirty companions were massacred by the Muslims with ease, belying the probability that they were mostly unarmed, having been given a guarantee of safe passage (Ibn Ishaq 981).



Such was the reputation of Muslims for lying and then killing that even those who "accepted Islam" did not feel entirely safe. The fate of the Jadhima is tragic evidence for this. When Muslim "missionaries" approached their tribe one of the members insisted that they would be slaughtered even though they had already "converted" to Islam to avoid just such a demise. However, the others were convinced that they could trust the Muslim leader's promise that they would not be harmed if they simply offered no resistance. (After convincing the skeptic to lay down his arms, the unarmed men of the tribe were quickly tied up and beheaded - Ibn Ishaq 834 & 837).



Today's Muslims often try to justify Muhammad's murder of poets and others who criticized him at Medina by saying that they broke a treaty by their actions. Yet, these same apologists place little value on treaties broken by Muslims. From Muhammad to Saddam Hussein, promises made to non-Muslim are distinctly non-binding in the Muslim mindset.



Leaders in the Arab world routinely say one thing to English-speaking audiences and then something entirely different to their own people in Arabic. Yassir Arafat was famous for telling Western newspapers about his desire for peace with Israel, then turning right around and whipping Palestinians into a hateful and violent frenzy against Jews.



The 9/11 hijackers practiced deception by going into bars and drinking alcohol, thus throwing off potential suspicion that they were fundamentalists plotting jihad. This effort worked so well, in fact, that even weeks after 9/11, John Walsh, the host of a popular American television show, said that their bar trips were evidence of 'hypocrisy.'
Can you find me the Arabic reference for that please? or at least the raw translation?
Breaking ceasefire/treaty sounds common as well :rofl:
 

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