The Humanitarian Gaza Flotillas Saga

[Challenger]

Hamas can have the blockade removed. All it needs to do is stop the terror and aggression, stop the rockets, the terror tunnels, and negotiate a good faith truce with the Israelis. Truth is Israel cares more for the Palestinians than Hamas.

All Israel needs to do, is honor international law and human rights.

All you need to do, is to stop lying to yourself.

A simpletons statement.

Which one, Roudy's or Billo_Really's?

 

[Hollie]

Hamas can have the blockade removed. All it needs to do is stop the terror and aggression, stop the rockets, the terror tunnels, and negotiate a good faith truce with the Israelis. Truth is Israel cares more for the Palestinians than Hamas.

All Israel needs to do, is honor international law and human rights.

All you need to do, is to stop lying to yourself.

A simpletons statement.

Which one, Roudy's or Billo_Really's?

Yours and Billy Bo Bobs, obviously. These silly Flotilla Escapades™ are propaganda stunts. They get minimal attention and even less credibility for that very reason. The islamist various islamic terrorist groups that promote these absurdities seek only to further fleece the international community for kafir dollars.

 

[Phoenall]

Hamas can have the blockade removed. All it needs to do is stop the terror and aggression, stop the rockets, the terror tunnels, and negotiate a good faith truce with the Israelis. Truth is Israel cares more for the Palestinians than Hamas.

All Israel needs to do, is honor international law and human rights.

All you need to do, is to stop lying to yourself.

A simpletons statement.

Which one, Roudy's or Billo_Really's?

All of team palestines as they have proven themselves to be simpletons

 

[Challenger]

Hamas can have the blockade removed. All it needs to do is stop the terror and aggression, stop the rockets, the terror tunnels, and negotiate a good faith truce with the Israelis. Truth is Israel cares more for the Palestinians than Hamas.

All Israel needs to do, is honor international law and human rights.

All you need to do, is to stop lying to yourself.

A simpletons statement.

Which one, Roudy's or Billo_Really's?

Yours and Billy Bo Bobs, obviously. These silly Flotilla Escapades™ are propaganda stunts. They get minimal attention and even less credibility for that very reason. The islamist various islamic terrorist groups that promote these absurdities seek only to further fleece the international community for kafir dollars.

Of course they're publicity stunts, that's their whole point. Noone seriously expects them to evade the Zionist navy and actually reach Gaza; their whole purpose is to focus attention on the continuing Zionist Seige and oppression of the Palestinians, even if only for a few days. These stunts are designed to make those politicians, bought and paid for by the Zionist lobbies, answer uncomfortable questions.

Oh, "Which one, Roudy's or Billo_Really's?" didn't include me as an answer option. I suppose that explains your viewpoint, though.

 

[Phoenall]

Hamas can have the blockade removed. All it needs to do is stop the terror and aggression, stop the rockets, the terror tunnels, and negotiate a good faith truce with the Israelis. Truth is Israel cares more for the Palestinians than Hamas.

All Israel needs to do, is honor international law and human rights.

All you need to do, is to stop lying to yourself.

A simpletons statement.

Which one, Roudy's or Billo_Really's?

Yours and Billy Bo Bobs, obviously. These silly Flotilla Escapades™ are propaganda stunts. They get minimal attention and even less credibility for that very reason. The islamist various islamic terrorist groups that promote these absurdities seek only to further fleece the international community for kafir dollars.

Of course they're publicity stunts, that's their whole point. Noone seriously expects them to evade the Zionist navy and actually reach Gaza; their whole purpose is to focus attention on the continuing Zionist Seige and oppression of the Palestinians, even if only for a few days. These stunts are designed to make those politicians, bought and paid for by the Zionist lobbies, answer uncomfortable questions.

Oh, "Which one, Roudy's or Billo_Really's?" didn't include me as an answer option. I suppose that explains your viewpoint, though.

You would have thought after the last one that the activists, terrorists and stooges would have realised that as a publicity stunt it failed. The politicians being much more intelligent than you know that Israel is acting within international law so ignore the screeches of outrage from the likes of you. And once again you use the term Zionist out of context and in a racially provocative manner hoping that the authorities don't realise that it is the Jew haters latest get out word.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Take it from a semi commercial fisherman you don't fish in the Med with cargo nets, you use monofilament purse nets with a mesh size of 25mm ( 1 inch ). A 4 to 6 inch cargo net is used to snag/snare something on the bottom or at mid water like a crate or package. The purse net would be destroyed by such a package and so would cost more to replace than the value of the package.

So the video you peddle of alleged fishermen is a fake as they are using 4 inch cargo netting and not a monofilament purse net. You are just too easy to show as being a brainwashed Jew hater when you insist on peddling the same fake video's

The video shows Palestinian's fishing and the IDF shooting at them.

There is nothing that justifies that behavior.

Not even terrorism and smuggling. and the video shows smugglers using cargo nets that would not catch any fish worth eating.

What law makes it illegal for Palestinians to import weapons?

 

[Challenger]

P F Tinmore, et al,

If only America was as powerful as it would actually have to be to have managed all it is accused of.

There were not many elections in Nazi occupied territories.

I see no parallel there. Israel didnt cause the breakdown of Pali national democracy.
But yet of course its their fault that Arabs cant seem to get along under systems of govt that arent
Theocracies or dictators or military rule. The Palis screwed that up...

Actually it was the US that trashed their whole political system in 2007 and has not allowed it to get back together again.

(COMMENT)

This is not America's fault. HAMAS is a "designated terrorist organization" --- and as such, under Security Council Resolution 1373, America cannot legally "providing any form of support, active or passive, to entities or persons involved in terrorist acts;" under international law and under domestic federal law.

This is really the case of the Arab Palestinians electing a terrorist organization to a position of power and leadership --- yet, unable to take responsibility for their actions and the consequences that followed.

The democratic process in the State of Palestine (alla 1988), is in the hands of the Palestinians; and has always been in the hands of Palestinians. No one ever took that away from the Palestinians; not Israel and not America.

Most Respectfully,
R

Bizarre argument. America designated Hamas as a terrorist organisation because of intense Zionist pressure, both foreign and domestic, which it now uses as an excuse not provide "any form of support". Interesting that SCR1373 fails to define the "terrorism" it rails against.

Hamas is considered a terrorist organization by the European union, Canada, Australia, Japan, and more recently, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and UAE. dufus.

Wrong again, Roudy. What a country's offocial position is and what goes on in the background are two different things. Saudi Arabia seems to have changed their position on the Muslim Brotherhood, which means Jordan, the UAE and Egypt are likely to follow suit. Good news for the Palestinian Resistance movement. The E.U. is officially "on the fence" pending the result of an appeal, but European diplomats are taking advantage of the situation to talk with their opposite numbers in the Palestinian Resistance. The Palestinian Resistance is also in unofficial talks with many South American countries, so things aren't as bleak as the Zionists would have us believe.

 

[Phoenall]

Take it from a semi commercial fisherman you don't fish in the Med with cargo nets, you use monofilament purse nets with a mesh size of 25mm ( 1 inch ). A 4 to 6 inch cargo net is used to snag/snare something on the bottom or at mid water like a crate or package. The purse net would be destroyed by such a package and so would cost more to replace than the value of the package.

So the video you peddle of alleged fishermen is a fake as they are using 4 inch cargo netting and not a monofilament purse net. You are just too easy to show as being a brainwashed Jew hater when you insist on peddling the same fake video's

The video shows Palestinian's fishing and the IDF shooting at them.

There is nothing that justifies that behavior.

Not even terrorism and smuggling. and the video shows smugglers using cargo nets that would not catch any fish worth eating.

What law makes it illegal for Palestinians to import weapons?

1. Arms and Munitions: forbidden transfer under all circumstances across Israel's frontiers without specific permits - as defined in the Control of Exports Security Order (Arms and Munitions) 5768-2008, and in the Control of Exports Security Order (Missile Equipment) 5768-2008.

2. Dual Use goods and items: liable to be used, side by side with their civilian purposes, for the development, production, installation or enhancement of military capabilities and terrorist capacities. This list comprises:

Items listed under the Wassenaar Arrangement: As specified in the updated (2008) "Wassenaar Arrangement on Export Controls for Arms and Dual Use Goods and Technologies - List of Dual Use Goods and Technologies and Munitions List."

The Wassenaar Arrangement Homepage

 

[Hollie]

Take it from a semi commercial fisherman you don't fish in the Med with cargo nets, you use monofilament purse nets with a mesh size of 25mm ( 1 inch ). A 4 to 6 inch cargo net is used to snag/snare something on the bottom or at mid water like a crate or package. The purse net would be destroyed by such a package and so would cost more to replace than the value of the package.

So the video you peddle of alleged fishermen is a fake as they are using 4 inch cargo netting and not a monofilament purse net. You are just too easy to show as being a brainwashed Jew hater when you insist on peddling the same fake video's

The video shows Palestinian's fishing and the IDF shooting at them.

There is nothing that justifies that behavior.

Not even terrorism and smuggling. and the video shows smugglers using cargo nets that would not catch any fish worth eating.

What law makes it illegal for Palestinians to import weapons?

What causes your continuing confusion regarding Islamic terrorism and so-called "Palestinian" Arabs?

 

[Hollie]

Hamas can have the blockade removed. All it needs to do is stop the terror and aggression, stop the rockets, the terror tunnels, and negotiate a good faith truce with the Israelis. Truth is Israel cares more for the Palestinians than Hamas.

All Israel needs to do, is honor international law and human rights.

All you need to do, is to stop lying to yourself.

A simpletons statement.

Which one, Roudy's or Billo_Really's?

Yours and Billy Bo Bobs, obviously. These silly Flotilla Escapades™ are propaganda stunts. They get minimal attention and even less credibility for that very reason. The islamist various islamic terrorist groups that promote these absurdities seek only to further fleece the international community for kafir dollars.

Of course they're publicity stunts, that's their whole point. Noone seriously expects them to evade the Zionist navy and actually reach Gaza; their whole purpose is to focus attention on the continuing Zionist Seige and oppression of the Palestinians, even if only for a few days. These stunts are designed to make those politicians, bought and paid for by the Zionist lobbies, answer uncomfortable questions.

Oh, "Which one, Roudy's or Billo_Really's?" didn't include me as an answer option. I suppose that explains your viewpoint, though.

I can appreciate the rare bit of honesty coming from enablers of Islamic terrorism. Yes, the silly Terrorist Flotillas™ are publicity stunts and they're intended to provoke confrontations. Its the typical pattern of behavior we see from the various Islamic terrorist groups hosted by the "Palestinian" arabs.

What they focus attention on is the continuing failure of "Palestinian" Arabs to cobble together a functioning society, capable of operating as an independent entity. There are consequences for hosting and maintaining Islamic terrorist organizations and the promotion of a fascist politico- religious ideology that defines Islamism.

 

[Roudy]

Bzzzz wrong again, dipshit. For there to be martial law there would have to be troops on the ground.

There are troops on the ground.

How do think the blockade is enforced?

There are no troops in Gaza, dipshit.

 

[Roudy]

Yeah, and rightly so. But it is not under occupation. Both Egypt and Israel are controlling what goes into an area that is being ruled by a terrorist govt.

You say it "not under occupation", then admit Israel controls the area.

Care to make any more dumbass statements?

Israel controls what goes in and out of Gaza's northern border, Egypt the South. That's what happens when you let an area be ruled by terrorist savages.

 

[Roudy]

HAMAS and the Arab Palestinian people only plays the defense game when it to their advantage. What HAMAS does is provoke a fight or confrontation. THEN: As Islreal responds to the provocation, HAMAS cries out that Israel using excessive force.

Are you seriously saying Zionist israel doesn't play the "self defence" card when it's to their advantage? The reality is that It's zionist israel that does the provoking, whenever they want to "cut the grass" or "mow the lawn" Palestinian resistance rocket and mortar attacks almost always follow Zionist targeted assassinations or airstrikes against "suspected terrorist targets"

Most countries...

Really? Don't you mean most Western countries. Hamas does not appear on the U.N. SC list of sanctioned organisations http://www.un.org/sc/committees/consolidated.pdf

I suspect most countries see HAMAs as a legitimate indigenous resistance movement against a colonial oppressor.

You suspect wrong, Hamas is designated as a TERRORIST organization by the U.S., 29 countries of the European Union including Great Britain, Canada, Australia, Japan, and a few other Western nations. You are always trying to change facts, Achmed.

 

[Roudy]

Hamas can have the blockade removed. All it needs to do is stop the terror and aggression, stop the rockets, the terror tunnels, and negotiate a good faith truce with the Israelis. Truth is Israel cares more for the Palestinians than Hamas.

All Israel needs to do, is honor international law and human rights.

All you need to do, is to stop lying to yourself.

A simpletons statement.

Which one, Roudy's or Billo_Really's?

All of team palestines as they have proven themselves to be simpletons

They repeat the same bullshit over and over. They literally have nothing but pissing in the wind.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Take it from a semi commercial fisherman you don't fish in the Med with cargo nets, you use monofilament purse nets with a mesh size of 25mm ( 1 inch ). A 4 to 6 inch cargo net is used to snag/snare something on the bottom or at mid water like a crate or package. The purse net would be destroyed by such a package and so would cost more to replace than the value of the package.

So the video you peddle of alleged fishermen is a fake as they are using 4 inch cargo netting and not a monofilament purse net. You are just too easy to show as being a brainwashed Jew hater when you insist on peddling the same fake video's

The video shows Palestinian's fishing and the IDF shooting at them.

There is nothing that justifies that behavior.

Not even terrorism and smuggling. and the video shows smugglers using cargo nets that would not catch any fish worth eating.

What law makes it illegal for Palestinians to import weapons?

1. Arms and Munitions: forbidden transfer under all circumstances across Israel's frontiers without specific permits - as defined in the Control of Exports Security Order (Arms and Munitions) 5768-2008, and in the Control of Exports Security Order (Missile Equipment) 5768-2008.

2. Dual Use goods and items: liable to be used, side by side with their civilian purposes, for the development, production, installation or enhancement of military capabilities and terrorist capacities. This list comprises:

Items listed under the Wassenaar Arrangement: As specified in the updated (2008) "Wassenaar Arrangement on Export Controls for Arms and Dual Use Goods and Technologies - List of Dual Use Goods and Technologies and Munitions List."

The Wassenaar Arrangement Homepage

The Participating States of the Wassenaar Arrangement are:

Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Republic of Korea, Romania, Russian Federation, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine, United Kingdom and United States.​

I don't see Israel or Palestine on this list.

BTW, what Israeli frontier have the Palestinians crossed?

 

[aris2chat]

Yeah, and rightly so. But it is not under occupation. Both Egypt and Israel are controlling what goes into an area that is being ruled by a terrorist govt.

You say it "not under occupation", then admit Israel controls the area.

Care to make any more dumbass statements?

Israel controls what goes in and out of Gaza's northern border, Egypt the South. That's what happens when you let an area be ruled by terrorist savages.

Egypt only opens the crossing a few days a year.

Five main crossing to Gaza from Israel. Three are active. All three have cargo deliveries in and out, one had pedestrians. Egypt has only one crossing. Both Israel and egypt have been fighting a war against illegal tunnels from gaza. Tunnels have numbered in the thousands from gaza, and more are still being fund.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Take it from a semi commercial fisherman you don't fish in the Med with cargo nets, you use monofilament purse nets with a mesh size of 25mm ( 1 inch ). A 4 to 6 inch cargo net is used to snag/snare something on the bottom or at mid water like a crate or package. The purse net would be destroyed by such a package and so would cost more to replace than the value of the package.

So the video you peddle of alleged fishermen is a fake as they are using 4 inch cargo netting and not a monofilament purse net. You are just too easy to show as being a brainwashed Jew hater when you insist on peddling the same fake video's

The video shows Palestinian's fishing and the IDF shooting at them.

There is nothing that justifies that behavior.

Not even terrorism and smuggling. and the video shows smugglers using cargo nets that would not catch any fish worth eating.

What law makes it illegal for Palestinians to import weapons?

What causes your continuing confusion regarding Islamic terrorism and so-called "Palestinian" Arabs?

Deflection.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Take it from a semi commercial fisherman you don't fish in the Med with cargo nets, you use monofilament purse nets with a mesh size of 25mm ( 1 inch ). A 4 to 6 inch cargo net is used to snag/snare something on the bottom or at mid water like a crate or package. The purse net would be destroyed by such a package and so would cost more to replace than the value of the package.

So the video you peddle of alleged fishermen is a fake as they are using 4 inch cargo netting and not a monofilament purse net. You are just too easy to show as being a brainwashed Jew hater when you insist on peddling the same fake video's

The video shows Palestinian's fishing and the IDF shooting at them.

There is nothing that justifies that behavior.

Not even terrorism and smuggling. and the video shows smugglers using cargo nets that would not catch any fish worth eating.

What law makes it illegal for Palestinians to import weapons?

Why do they need to?

 

[Hollie]

Yeah, and rightly so. But it is not under occupation. Both Egypt and Israel are controlling what goes into an area that is being ruled by a terrorist govt.

You say it "not under occupation", then admit Israel controls the area.

Care to make any more dumbass statements?

Israel controls what goes in and out of Gaza's northern border, Egypt the South. That's what happens when you let an area be ruled by terrorist savages.

It hasn't gone unnoticed that the Islamic terrorist apologists are silent when it comes to Egypt protecting its citizens by controlling its border area with the Pali' terrorists.

This is all about insensate Jooooooo hatreds from the usual haters.

 

[Challenger]

Take it from a semi commercial fisherman you don't fish in the Med with cargo nets, you use monofilament purse nets with a mesh size of 25mm ( 1 inch ). A 4 to 6 inch cargo net is used to snag/snare something on the bottom or at mid water like a crate or package. The purse net would be destroyed by such a package and so would cost more to replace than the value of the package.

So the video you peddle of alleged fishermen is a fake as they are using 4 inch cargo netting and not a monofilament purse net. You are just too easy to show as being a brainwashed Jew hater when you insist on peddling the same fake video's

The video shows Palestinian's fishing and the IDF shooting at them.

There is nothing that justifies that behavior.

Not even terrorism and smuggling. and the video shows smugglers using cargo nets that would not catch any fish worth eating.

What law makes it illegal for Palestinians to import weapons?

Why do they need to?

To defend themselves from the Zionists who keep attacking them, it seems.