The Humanitarian Gaza Flotillas Saga

[aris2chat]

Seriously, you want the Palis to own Israel and have them eating out your hand?
Also solve the fishing issue? FISH FARMING. Its the kind of innovated solution the Israelis might come up with.

But in this case, the secret weapon would be salmon, and a battery of fish smokers.
Hell, Ive just shifted the balance of power in the Holy Land.

Gaza has fish farms. Better quality fish but they cost more for the consumer. Israel extended the fishing limits but their first concern is security. Gaza has fish, cattle, sheep, goats and chickens. They grow most of their own vegetable. Four for bread is one of the few things that the UN supplied that could not be produced in gaza. Sweets, sugar, for pasteries is another. They have some honey but sweet pasteries are very popular. Baked goods, chocolate, candy, beverages, etc. need sugar. Sugar is grown or processed in much of the middle east and north africa, just not gaza. Some sugar cane but not enough for the needs of the palestinians. It is mostly used for juicing.

Not always the shortage of supplies but like the fuel, gaza has to pay the PA for fuel which is then transported to gaza. Hamas does not want to pay the taxes to the PA. Arab states have periodically payed for emergency supplies but it is more the unwillingness to pay than the availability that is the problem. When there is a gut of fuel, hamas will still ration fuel to a few hours a day. Israel supplies 1/3 of the electricity for gaza. Egypt supplies 1/3. It is the 1/3 in central gaza that hamas is controlling. It is not that the whole of gaza is without power, fuel, etc. Hamas makes a big publicity spectral of shortages even when there is no need. it gives the world the image of gaza being strangled by the blockade and being crushed by Israel.
Hamas can transport wild zoo animals, jewelry and expensive luxury cars through the tunnels but deprive their own people to make them seem more pitiable. It is a magical illusion on a world stage. It keeps a level of anger/dissatisfaction simmering within the gazans that is hamas created and fed. It was hamas violence that made the blockade necessary in the first place.

 

[flacaltenn]

Seriously, you want the Palis to own Israel and have them eating out your hand?
Also solve the fishing issue? FISH FARMING. Its the kind of innovated solution the Israelis might come up with.

But in this case, the secret weapon would be salmon, and a battery of fish smokers.
Hell, Ive just shifted the balance of power in the Holy Land.

White fish are a better option as they are less polluting, salmon are a dirty fish prone to parasite infestations and need to be tended constantly. Sea bass are an option as they are protected and only farmed fish can be sold under 42 cm ( 16 inches ). I am sure that with Israel's help the Palestinians could have a thriving fish farm industry in no time and a ready market for all the fish they could farm

Whitefish it is then partner. Want to go halvsies with me and be the Jewish founding fathers of the Pali smoked fish industry? Seriously, i can smelll the peace already.

 

[flacaltenn]

Seriously, you want the Palis to own Israel and have them eating out your hand?
Also solve the fishing issue? FISH FARMING. Its the kind of innovated solution the Israelis might come up with.

But in this case, the secret weapon would be salmon, and a battery of fish smokers.
Hell, Ive just shifted the balance of power in the Holy Land.

Gaza has fish farms. Better quality fish but they cost more for the consumer. Israel extended the fishing limits but their first concern is security. Gaza has fish, cattle, sheep, goats and chickens. They grow most of their own vegetable. Four for bread is one of the few things that the UN supplied that could not be produced in gaza. Sweets, sugar, for pasteries is another. They have some honey but sweet pasteries are very popular. Baked goods, chocolate, candy, beverages, etc. need sugar. Sugar is grown or processed in much of the middle east and north africa, just not gaza. Some sugar cane but not enough for the needs of the palestinians. It is mostly used for juicing.

Not always the shortage of supplies but like the fuel, gaza has to pay the PA for fuel which is then transported to gaza. Hamas does not want to pay the taxes to the PA. Arab states have periodically payed for emergency supplies but it is more the unwillingness to pay than the availability that is the problem. When there is a gut of fuel, hamas will still ration fuel to a few hours a day. Israel supplies 1/3 of the electricity for gaza. Egypt supplies 1/3. It is the 1/3 in central gaza that hamas is controlling. It is not that the whole of gaza is without power, fuel, etc. Hamas makes a big publicity spectral of shortages even when there is no need. it gives the world the image of gaza being strangled by the blockade and being crushed by Israel.
Hamas can transport wild zoo animals, jewelry and expensive luxury cars through the tunnels but deprive their own people to make them seem more pitiable. It is a magical illusion on a world stage. It keeps a level of anger/dissatisfaction simmering within the gazans that is hamas created and fed. It was hamas violence that made the blockade necessary in the first place.

Aw cmon A-chat, dont be such a doubter. Wind and solar. Screw big energy. You go spy on the existing fish farming and report back. Not a WORD about smoked whitefish.....

 

[aris2chat]

Seriously, you want the Palis to own Israel and have them eating out your hand?
Also solve the fishing issue? FISH FARMING. Its the kind of innovated solution the Israelis might come up with.

But in this case, the secret weapon would be salmon, and a battery of fish smokers.
Hell, Ive just shifted the balance of power in the Holy Land.

White fish are a better option as they are less polluting, salmon are a dirty fish prone to parasite infestations and need to be tended constantly. Sea bass are an option as they are protected and only farmed fish can be sold under 42 cm ( 16 inches ). I am sure that with Israel's help the Palestinians could have a thriving fish farm industry in no time and a ready market for all the fish they could farm

Whitefish it is then partner. Want to go halvsies with me and be the Jewish founding fathers of the Pali smoked fish industry? Seriously, i can smelll the peace already.

Gaza and Egypt have a variety of whitefish. Fish from egypt is actually about half the price than from gazan fishermen.
Four commercial fish farms in gaza produce 220 metric tons of fish. Fried or grilled fish is faster and more popular than smoked fish. Not an abundance of wood for smoking or a need to preserve fish long term as in norther countries with long hard winters.

as for solar......
Gaza to get 30 MW of solar energy REVE

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Dont think that plan would work. Jews and Scots are too tight with money... But if the Palis invented some bioengineered chick peas with garlic already in them, they might own the place in 20 years......

I hate peas! Always have, always will.

How come I can't PM you?

Chick peas are not the same as green peas, they are an eastern delicacy

Imagine that. An expert on the I/P conflict that doesnt know how humus is made......

I don't think anyone who hasn't eaten a falafel pita with humus, tahini, salad and sauerkraut, should be allowed to give an opinion on the I/P conflict.

 

[aris2chat]

http://www.ijser.org/researchpaper\A-PARAMETRIC-STUDY-OF-SOLAR-AND-WIND-ENERGY-IN-GAZA-STRIP.pdf
Gaza - renewable energy for a just and durable peace - The Ecologist
http://library.iugaza.edu.ps/thesis/107606.pdf
Wind energy in West Bank and Gaza Strip

 

[aris2chat]

Dont think that plan would work. Jews and Scots are too tight with money... But if the Palis invented some bioengineered chick peas with garlic already in them, they might own the place in 20 years......

I hate peas! Always have, always will.

How come I can't PM you?

Chick peas are not the same as green peas, they are an eastern delicacy

Imagine that. An expert on the I/P conflict that doesnt know how humus is made......

I don't think anyone who hasn't eaten a falafel pita with humus, tahini, salad and sauerkraut, should be allowed to give an opinion on the I/P conflict.

Sauerkraut? Pickled turnips, carrots, peppers, cauliflower and beans maybe.

I'd rather have shawarma than falafel

 

[P F Tinmore]

Seriously, you want the Palis to own Israel and have them eating out your hand?
Also solve the fishing issue? FISH FARMING. Its the kind of innovated solution the Israelis might come up with.

But in this case, the secret weapon would be salmon, and a battery of fish smokers.
Hell, Ive just shifted the balance of power in the Holy Land.

FISH FARMING. Its the kind of innovated solution the Israelis might come up with.​

You're late. Already being done. Do you think the Palestinians need Israelis to think for them?

 

[Hollie]

Seriously, you want the Palis to own Israel and have them eating out your hand?
Also solve the fishing issue? FISH FARMING. Its the kind of innovated solution the Israelis might come up with.

But in this case, the secret weapon would be salmon, and a battery of fish smokers.
Hell, Ive just shifted the balance of power in the Holy Land.

FISH FARMING. Its the kind of innovated solution the Israelis might come up with.​

You're late. Already being done. Do you think the Palestinians need Israelis to think for them?

So-called "Palestinians" represent a failed Islamic terrorist enclave. If not for a dedicated UN welfare agency to prop up the terrorist snake pit, "Palestinians" would be just another name for just another Islamic terrorist organization.

 

[aris2chat]

Seriously, you want the Palis to own Israel and have them eating out your hand?
Also solve the fishing issue? FISH FARMING. Its the kind of innovated solution the Israelis might come up with.

But in this case, the secret weapon would be salmon, and a battery of fish smokers.
Hell, Ive just shifted the balance of power in the Holy Land.

FISH FARMING. Its the kind of innovated solution the Israelis might come up with.​

You're late. Already being done. Do you think the Palestinians need Israelis to think for them?

So-called "Palestinians" represent a failed Islamic terrorist enclave. If not for a dedicated UN welfare agency to prop up the terrorist snake pit, "Palestinians" would be just another name for just another Islamic terrorist organization.

UN can't afford to prop them up any more. They cut funding by almost 80%

 

[montelatici]

Seriously, you want the Palis to own Israel and have them eating out your hand?
Also solve the fishing issue? FISH FARMING. Its the kind of innovated solution the Israelis might come up with.

But in this case, the secret weapon would be salmon, and a battery of fish smokers.
Hell, Ive just shifted the balance of power in the Holy Land.

FISH FARMING. Its the kind of innovated solution the Israelis might come up with.​

You're late. Already being done. Do you think the Palestinians need Israelis to think for them?

So-called "Palestinians" represent a failed Islamic terrorist enclave. If not for a dedicated UN welfare agency to prop up the terrorist snake pit, "Palestinians" would be just another name for just another Islamic terrorist organization.

It is more like the Israeli Jews represent a terrorist enclave in an Arab land area. Killing a few thousand Christian and Muslim Palestinians every 2 years or so, makes them more the terrorists than the Christians and Muslims.

 

[Roudy]

Shooting AT somebody is different than shooting somebody. If a one-man dingy HAD a radio tuned to local traffic -- I'm sure that would save the Israeli Coast Guard a couple shells. Works kinda like a radio...

Who shoots at people fishing? Think about that. Who the fuck shoots at someone fishing?

Not only is there nothing to justify such an action, this is so wrong, that the lack of outrage from others, speaks volumes about who they are as a person.

Are these the same terrorists posing as fishermen?

 

[Roudy]

Seriously, you want the Palis to own Israel and have them eating out your hand?
Also solve the fishing issue? FISH FARMING. Its the kind of innovated solution the Israelis might come up with.

But in this case, the secret weapon would be salmon, and a battery of fish smokers.
Hell, Ive just shifted the balance of power in the Holy Land.

FISH FARMING. Its the kind of innovated solution the Israelis might come up with.​

You're late. Already being done. Do you think the Palestinians need Israelis to think for them?

So-called "Palestinians" represent a failed Islamic terrorist enclave. If not for a dedicated UN welfare agency to prop up the terrorist snake pit, "Palestinians" would be just another name for just another Islamic terrorist organization.

It is more like the Israeli Jews represent a terrorist enclave in an Arab land area. Killing a few thousand Christian and Muslim Palestinians every 2 years or so, makes them more the terrorists than the Christians and Muslims.

It is more like the Israeli Jews represent the only free democratic tolerant nation in an ocean of violent intolerant Muslim and Arab terrorist assholes out to kill all Jews and Christians they can't get their hand on.

There, corrected it for you, MonkeyNazi.

 

[Billo_Really]

Are these the same terrorists posing as fishermen?

No, you protected piece of shit, they are fishermen fishing.

 

[Roudy]

Are these the same terrorists posing as fishermen?

No, you protected piece of shit, they are fishermen fishing.

And what about the terrorists posing as fishermen, or boats carrying weapons to terrorists disguised, as fishing boats, you big mouth low IQ piece of shit?

Last month, a joint ISA-IDF operation uncovered tons worth of materials being smuggled on a vessel off the coast of Gaza. The materials, originating from the Sinai Peninsula, were meant for Hamas in the Gaza Strip and led to the arrest of three suspects.
The craft was disguised as a fishing boat, but underneath the fishing gear liquid fiberglass was concealed. The liquid fiberglass was intended for Hamas and meant to be used in the manufacturing of rockets and mortars.

On January 19, IDF forces identified a suspicious boat making its way towards the Gaza Strip. The navy, in conjunction with the Israel Security Agency (ISA), intercepted the vessel after requesting that the passengers stop the boat.

The three suspects, Mahmed Bechar, Ahmed Zaidi and Awad Zaidi, were arrested and interrogated by the ISA. During the interrogation, the suspects admitted that they were sent to collect the manufacturing materials from the Sinai Peninsula in Egypt and to deliver the liquid fiberglass to Hamas’ military wing.

Furthermore, the three men provided detailed information about previous weapon smuggling activities and how Hamas intended to use the fishermen and smugglers for future smuggling attempts. On February 11, charges were filed against all three suspects for taking part in security-related crimes in the district court in Beer Sheva.

 

[Roudy]

It is NOT occupied. It is an opportunity waiting for a Responsible govt..
Not gonna repeat that again PF.. It's obvious to most of the world..

Excuse me, but the rest of the world considers Gaza under occupation. And they've been under occupation since 1967.

If Gaza wasn't occupied, their fishermen wouldn't be getting shot at. Their farmers wouldn't be getting shot at. Humanitarian vessels would not be stopped, sailing into their ports. Gazans would be able to leave the area. Gaza is a prison. It is a prison, because the area is under occupation.

Gaza is not under occupation you ignorant fool, it is under a blockade, which is legal.

 

[Roudy]

These Zionists are so irrational. Any other country that controlled the air space, the territorial sea and the land borders of another country and routinely goes in with troops for punish the populace and bombs it killing thousands of civilians (without being criticized), would be considered the occupier, as Israel rightfully is legally by the UN. They deny it.

How can they look themselves in a mirror after they post such nonsense?

The blockade has been deemed legal by the international community, as Gaza is ruled by a terrorist organization.

These IslamoNazi terrorist worshipers are so irrational.

 

[Billo_Really]

And what about the terrorists posing as fishermen, or boats carrying weapons to terrorists disguised, as fishing boats, you big mouth low IQ piece of shit?

Last month, a joint ISA-IDF operation uncovered tons worth of materials being smuggled on a vessel off the coast of Gaza. The materials, originating from the Sinai Peninsula, were meant for Hamas in the Gaza Strip and led to the arrest of three suspects.
The craft was disguised as a fishing boat, but underneath the fishing gear liquid fiberglass was concealed. The liquid fiberglass was intended for Hamas and meant to be used in the manufacturing of rockets and mortars.

On January 19, IDF forces identified a suspicious boat making its way towards the Gaza Strip. The navy, in conjunction with the Israel Security Agency (ISA), intercepted the vessel after requesting that the passengers stop the boat.

The three suspects, Mahmed Bechar, Ahmed Zaidi and Awad Zaidi, were arrested and interrogated by the ISA. During the interrogation, the suspects admitted that they were sent to collect the manufacturing materials from the Sinai Peninsula in Egypt and to deliver the liquid fiberglass to Hamas’ military wing.

Furthermore, the three men provided detailed information about previous weapon smuggling activities and how Hamas intended to use the fishermen and smugglers for future smuggling attempts. On February 11, charges were filed against all three suspects for taking part in security-related crimes in the district court in Beer Sheva.

I hate to burst your bubble, Roufti the Mufti, but that's not terrorism.

 

[Billo_Really]

The blockade has been deemed legal by the international community,

Wrong. That was the Palmer Commission, which wasn't even convened to determine the legality of the blockade. They even admit, it was just an opinion piece.

 

[Billo_Really]

Gaza is not under occupation you ignorant fool, it is under a blockade, which is legal.

Israel has "effective control" over 80% of the area.

That satisfies the definition of an occupation.