The House Impeachment Report

[CrusaderFrank]

I don't see anything suspicious about phone calls between people who all work together. Furthermore, Schiff violated the 4th Amendment. How did he get these phone records? Its illegal for him to have them without a warrant.

Not illegal at all. There is no expectation of privacy when it comes to phone call records. This was decided decades ago in the SCOTUS decision Katz v United States.

Katz vs US where the court ruled 7-1 Katz had an expectation of privacy on a public pay phone? You meant some other Katz v. US, right?

Yes, that's the one. It's the ruling precedent which allows pen registers to be obtained from phone companies without a warrant. It's been done for decades.

Schiff got the call from the phone company????

 

[Hutch Starskey]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/politics/read-the-mueller-report/

Find: Russia
Replace: Ukraine

"Talk to Rudy"
Impeachment report: Giuliani spoke to White House, Nunes and OMB at key points in Ukraine campaign

Holy shit batman! An investigator was talking with his clients!

Holy shit batman! An investigator was talking with his clients

The OMB is not his client, dope.

 

[bripat9643]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/politics/read-the-mueller-report/

Find: Russia
Replace: Ukraine

"Talk to Rudy"
Impeachment report: Giuliani spoke to White House, Nunes and OMB at key points in Ukraine campaign

Giuliani is Trump's lawyer, dumbass. He's allowed to talk to them.

Sure. It shows though that he wasn't acting alone, dope.

"acting alone" to do what?

 

[colfax_m]

I don't see anything suspicious about phone calls between people who all work together. Furthermore, Schiff violated the 4th Amendment. How did he get these phone records? Its illegal for him to have them without a warrant.

Not illegal at all. There is no expectation of privacy when it comes to phone call records. This was decided decades ago in the SCOTUS decision Katz v United States.

Katz vs US where the court ruled 7-1 Katz had an expectation of privacy on a public pay phone? You meant some other Katz v. US, right?

Yes, that's the one. It's the ruling precedent which allows pen registers to be obtained from phone companies without a warrant. It's been done for decades.

But the Court ruled in favor of Katz 7-1! It's the OPPOSITE of what you say

Katz established the modern test for what constitutes an illegal search and seizure. Basically, when you dial a phone, you transmit the number to the telephone company. You cannot reasonably claim an expectation of privacy for information you have submitted to the telephone company. Therefore a pen register is not covered under the 4th amendment. It's "outside the envelope" type of information.

 

[Uncensored2008]

"Talk to Rudy"
Impeachment report: Giuliani spoke to White House, Nunes and OMB at key points in Ukraine campaign

How the FUCK did Lying Schitt get the PHONE RECORDS of the President's personal lawyer and a US Congressman?

Why the FUCK is this crook bastard Schitt not in CUSTODY? This is the MOST OUTRAGEOUS abuse of power and infringement of 4th Amendment rights I've ever seen. PLUS the CROOKED LITTLE FUCK has the phone records of journalist John Solomon? What happened to the 1st Amendment, you fucking traitor bastards?

THIS is the kind of shit you take up arms over. WE HAVE NO FUCKING LAW, Adam Schitt is a scumbag dictator constrained by no law or Constitution.

William Barr, ENFORCE THE FUCKING LAW, or by god we the people will. Arrest this SCHITT now.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I don't see anything suspicious about phone calls between people who all work together. Furthermore, Schiff violated the 4th Amendment. How did he get these phone records? Its illegal for him to have them without a warrant.

Not illegal at all. There is no expectation of privacy when it comes to phone call records. This was decided decades ago in the SCOTUS decision Katz v United States.

Katz vs US where the court ruled 7-1 Katz had an expectation of privacy on a public pay phone? You meant some other Katz v. US, right?

Yes, that's the one. It's the ruling precedent which allows pen registers to be obtained from phone companies without a warrant. It's been done for decades.

But the Court ruled in favor of Katz 7-1! It's the OPPOSITE of what you say

Katz established the modern test for what constitutes an illegal search and seizure. Basically, when you dial a phone, you transmit the number to the telephone company. You cannot reasonably claim an expectation of privacy for information you have submitted to the telephone company. Therefore a pen register is not covered under the 4th amendment. It's "outside the envelope" type of information.

So Trump can get Schiff and Ciaramellas phone records just by asking? Does he have to say, "please"?

 

[Oddball]

Washington saw Trump

Report | Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence

"In his farewell address, President George Washington warned of a moment when 'cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.'

"The Framers of the Constitution well understood that an individual could one day occupy the Office of the President who would place his personal or political interests above those of the nation.

"Having just won hard-fought independence from a King with unbridled authority, they were attuned to the dangers of an executive who lacked fealty to the law and the Constitution."

 

[colfax_m]

I don't see anything suspicious about phone calls between people who all work together. Furthermore, Schiff violated the 4th Amendment. How did he get these phone records? Its illegal for him to have them without a warrant.

Not illegal at all. There is no expectation of privacy when it comes to phone call records. This was decided decades ago in the SCOTUS decision Katz v United States.

Katz vs US where the court ruled 7-1 Katz had an expectation of privacy on a public pay phone? You meant some other Katz v. US, right?

Yes, that's the one. It's the ruling precedent which allows pen registers to be obtained from phone companies without a warrant. It's been done for decades.

Schiff got the call from the phone company????

Yes. That's correct.

 

[colfax_m]

Not illegal at all. There is no expectation of privacy when it comes to phone call records. This was decided decades ago in the SCOTUS decision Katz v United States.

Katz vs US where the court ruled 7-1 Katz had an expectation of privacy on a public pay phone? You meant some other Katz v. US, right?

Yes, that's the one. It's the ruling precedent which allows pen registers to be obtained from phone companies without a warrant. It's been done for decades.

But the Court ruled in favor of Katz 7-1! It's the OPPOSITE of what you say

Katz established the modern test for what constitutes an illegal search and seizure. Basically, when you dial a phone, you transmit the number to the telephone company. You cannot reasonably claim an expectation of privacy for information you have submitted to the telephone company. Therefore a pen register is not covered under the 4th amendment. It's "outside the envelope" type of information.

So Trump can get Schiff and Ciaramellas phone records just by asking? Does he have to say, "please"?

The phone company has to agree to the request. The DoJ issues subpoenas for them all the time.

 

[colfax_m]

"Talk to Rudy"
Impeachment report: Giuliani spoke to White House, Nunes and OMB at key points in Ukraine campaign

How the FUCK did Lying Schitt get the PHONE RECORDS of the President's personal lawyer and a US Congressman?

Why the FUCK is this crook bastard Schitt not in CUSTODY? This is the MOST OUTRAGEOUS abuse of power and infringement of 4th Amendment rights I've ever seen. PLUS the CROOKED LITTLE FUCK has the phone records of journalist John Solomon? What happened to the 1st Amendment, you fucking traitor bastards?

THIS is the kind of shit you take up arms over. WE HAVE NO FUCKING LAW, Adam Schitt is a scumbag dictator constrained by no law or Constitution.

William Barr, ENFORCE THE FUCKING LAW, or by god we the people will. Arrest this SCHITT now.

It's called a subpoena. Schiff issued a subpoena to ATT.

Nothing illegal about it. Read a book.

 

[bripat9643]

I don't see anything suspicious about phone calls between people who all work together. Furthermore, Schiff violated the 4th Amendment. How did he get these phone records? Its illegal for him to have them without a warrant.

Not illegal at all. There is no expectation of privacy when it comes to phone call records. This was decided decades ago in the SCOTUS decision Katz v United States.

I think there is. The police can't get them without a warrant. The court ruled in Katz's favor, which is exactly the opposite of what you assumed.

Katz v. United States - Wikipedia​

In December 1967, the Supreme Court issued a 7–1 decision in Katz's favor and overturned his conviction. Its decision significantly redefined the law governing the Fourth Amendment's protections, which was previously limited to the searches and seizures of individuals' "persons, houses, papers, and effects" spoken of in the Amendment, and was traditionally understood to require an actual "trespass" or other physical intrusion by law enforcement officers. The Court expanded the Amendment's protections beyond these traditional areas, stating that "what [a person] seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected." In an influential concurring opinion included in the decision, Justice John Marshall Harlan II interpreted the Court's opinion to require claims of Fourth Amendment protection to pass a two-part test: "first that a person have exhibited an actual (subjective) expectation of privacy and, second, that the expectation be one that society is prepared to recognize as 'reasonable.'"​

 

[lantern2814]

"Talk to Rudy"
Impeachment report: Giuliani spoke to White House, Nunes and OMB at key points in Ukraine campaign

How the FUCK did Lying Schitt get the PHONE RECORDS of the President's personal lawyer and a US Congressman?

Why the FUCK is this crook bastard Schitt not in CUSTODY? This is the MOST OUTRAGEOUS abuse of power and infringement of 4th Amendment rights I've ever seen. PLUS the CROOKED LITTLE FUCK has the phone records of journalist John Solomon? What happened to the 1st Amendment, you fucking traitor bastards?

THIS is the kind of shit you take up arms over. WE HAVE NO FUCKING LAW, Adam Schitt is a scumbag dictator constrained by no law or Constitution.

William Barr, ENFORCE THE FUCKING LAW, or by god we the people will. Arrest this SCHITT now.

It's called a subpoena. Schiff issued a subpoena to ATT.

Nothing illegal about it. Read a book.

Actually you should learn a thing or two. Schitt has NO right to those records as Giuliani and Nunes are NOT being investigated. Thus he has ZERO legal reason to have them. And messing with Solomon will get Schitt in a hell of a lot more trouble than he can handle. Solomon will wipe the deck with him should this get to court. Schitt CAN and SHOULD be arrested for this. But continue to kiss his ass as you clowns get destroyed in 2020.

 

[bripat9643]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/politics/read-the-mueller-report/

Find: Russia
Replace: Ukraine

"Talk to Rudy"
Impeachment report: Giuliani spoke to White House, Nunes and OMB at key points in Ukraine campaign

Holy shit batman! An investigator was talking with his clients!

Holy shit batman! An investigator was talking with his clients

The OMB is not his client, dope.

Americans are entitled to question their government.

 

[colfax_m]

I don't see anything suspicious about phone calls between people who all work together. Furthermore, Schiff violated the 4th Amendment. How did he get these phone records? Its illegal for him to have them without a warrant.

Not illegal at all. There is no expectation of privacy when it comes to phone call records. This was decided decades ago in the SCOTUS decision Katz v United States.

I think there is. The police can't get them without a warrant. The court ruled in Katz's favor, which is exactly the opposite of what you assumed.

Katz v. United States - Wikipedia​

In December 1967, the Supreme Court issued a 7–1 decision in Katz's favor and overturned his conviction. Its decision significantly redefined the law governing the Fourth Amendment's protections, which was previously limited to the searches and seizures of individuals' "persons, houses, papers, and effects" spoken of in the Amendment, and was traditionally understood to require an actual "trespass" or other physical intrusion by law enforcement officers. The Court expanded the Amendment's protections beyond these traditional areas, stating that "what [a person] seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected." In an influential concurring opinion included in the decision, Justice John Marshall Harlan II interpreted the Court's opinion to require claims of Fourth Amendment protection to pass a two-part test: "first that a person have exhibited an actual (subjective) expectation of privacy and, second, that the expectation be one that society is prepared to recognize as 'reasonable.'"​

You don't have an expectation of privacy when it comes to identifying who you dialed and when.

Edit to add; The actual precedent is Smith v Maryland. My bad.

 

[Preacher]

Hmm...who to believe lying politicians or the Ukrainian President who had NEVER held political office before? I think I will go with the Ukrainian president.

 

[bripat9643]

"Talk to Rudy"
Impeachment report: Giuliani spoke to White House, Nunes and OMB at key points in Ukraine campaign

How the FUCK did Lying Schitt get the PHONE RECORDS of the President's personal lawyer and a US Congressman?

Why the FUCK is this crook bastard Schitt not in CUSTODY? This is the MOST OUTRAGEOUS abuse of power and infringement of 4th Amendment rights I've ever seen. PLUS the CROOKED LITTLE FUCK has the phone records of journalist John Solomon? What happened to the 1st Amendment, you fucking traitor bastards?

THIS is the kind of shit you take up arms over. WE HAVE NO FUCKING LAW, Adam Schitt is a scumbag dictator constrained by no law or Constitution.

William Barr, ENFORCE THE FUCKING LAW, or by god we the people will. Arrest this SCHITT now.

It's called a subpoena. Schiff issued a subpoena to ATT.

Nothing illegal about it. Read a book.

He needs a warrant, which only a judge can issue.

 

[colfax_m]

"Talk to Rudy"
Impeachment report: Giuliani spoke to White House, Nunes and OMB at key points in Ukraine campaign

How the FUCK did Lying Schitt get the PHONE RECORDS of the President's personal lawyer and a US Congressman?

Why the FUCK is this crook bastard Schitt not in CUSTODY? This is the MOST OUTRAGEOUS abuse of power and infringement of 4th Amendment rights I've ever seen. PLUS the CROOKED LITTLE FUCK has the phone records of journalist John Solomon? What happened to the 1st Amendment, you fucking traitor bastards?

THIS is the kind of shit you take up arms over. WE HAVE NO FUCKING LAW, Adam Schitt is a scumbag dictator constrained by no law or Constitution.

William Barr, ENFORCE THE FUCKING LAW, or by god we the people will. Arrest this SCHITT now.

It's called a subpoena. Schiff issued a subpoena to ATT.

Nothing illegal about it. Read a book.

Actually you should learn a thing or two. Schitt has NO right to those records as Giuliani and Nunes are NOT being investigated. Thus he has ZERO legal reason to have them. And messing with Solomon will get Schitt in a hell of a lot more trouble than he can handle. Solomon will wipe the deck with him should this get to court. Schitt CAN and SHOULD be arrested for this. But continue to kiss his ass as you clowns get destroyed in 2020.

Giuliani is definitely part of this investigation. Nunes is just an idiot who got caught up in the mess but is going to be subject to an ethics investigation shortly. Solomon is in deep shit. He's been found to be pumping basically propaganda bought and paid for by corrupt Ukrainians. He's been canned from The Hill and is trying to salvage what scraps of credibility he has left.

Schiff isn't in any trouble. He's a Stanford graduate, Harvard law graduate, former federal prosecutor. Nunes is a hayseed. Solomon is a hack. Giuliani has dementia. He'll be fine, mostly because he knows the law and hasn't violated anything. A pen register is not protected by the 4th amendment.

 

[bripat9643]

I don't see anything suspicious about phone calls between people who all work together. Furthermore, Schiff violated the 4th Amendment. How did he get these phone records? Its illegal for him to have them without a warrant.

Not illegal at all. There is no expectation of privacy when it comes to phone call records. This was decided decades ago in the SCOTUS decision Katz v United States.

Katz vs US where the court ruled 7-1 Katz had an expectation of privacy on a public pay phone? You meant some other Katz v. US, right?

Yes, that's the one. It's the ruling precedent which allows pen registers to be obtained from phone companies without a warrant. It's been done for decades.

But the Court ruled in favor of Katz 7-1! It's the OPPOSITE of what you say

Katz established the modern test for what constitutes an illegal search and seizure. Basically, when you dial a phone, you transmit the number to the telephone company. You cannot reasonably claim an expectation of privacy for information you have submitted to the telephone company. Therefore a pen register is not covered under the 4th amendment. It's "outside the envelope" type of information.

You obviously didn't read the decision. The SC ruled in favor of Katz.

 

[bripat9643]

I don't see anything suspicious about phone calls between people who all work together. Furthermore, Schiff violated the 4th Amendment. How did he get these phone records? Its illegal for him to have them without a warrant.

Not illegal at all. There is no expectation of privacy when it comes to phone call records. This was decided decades ago in the SCOTUS decision Katz v United States.

I think there is. The police can't get them without a warrant. The court ruled in Katz's favor, which is exactly the opposite of what you assumed.

Katz v. United States - Wikipedia​

In December 1967, the Supreme Court issued a 7–1 decision in Katz's favor and overturned his conviction. Its decision significantly redefined the law governing the Fourth Amendment's protections, which was previously limited to the searches and seizures of individuals' "persons, houses, papers, and effects" spoken of in the Amendment, and was traditionally understood to require an actual "trespass" or other physical intrusion by law enforcement officers. The Court expanded the Amendment's protections beyond these traditional areas, stating that "what [a person] seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be constitutionally protected." In an influential concurring opinion included in the decision, Justice John Marshall Harlan II interpreted the Court's opinion to require claims of Fourth Amendment protection to pass a two-part test: "first that a person have exhibited an actual (subjective) expectation of privacy and, second, that the expectation be one that society is prepared to recognize as 'reasonable.'"​

You don't have an expectation of privacy when it comes to identifying who you dialed and when.

Edit to add; The actual precedent is Smith v Maryland. My bad.

Yes you do.

 

[colfax_m]

"Talk to Rudy"
Impeachment report: Giuliani spoke to White House, Nunes and OMB at key points in Ukraine campaign

How the FUCK did Lying Schitt get the PHONE RECORDS of the President's personal lawyer and a US Congressman?

Why the FUCK is this crook bastard Schitt not in CUSTODY? This is the MOST OUTRAGEOUS abuse of power and infringement of 4th Amendment rights I've ever seen. PLUS the CROOKED LITTLE FUCK has the phone records of journalist John Solomon? What happened to the 1st Amendment, you fucking traitor bastards?

THIS is the kind of shit you take up arms over. WE HAVE NO FUCKING LAW, Adam Schitt is a scumbag dictator constrained by no law or Constitution.

William Barr, ENFORCE THE FUCKING LAW, or by god we the people will. Arrest this SCHITT now.

It's called a subpoena. Schiff issued a subpoena to ATT.

Nothing illegal about it. Read a book.

He needs a warrant, which only a judge can issue.

Says who?
Certainly not the SCOTUS (who I am told are judges). They wrote this in Smith v Maryland:

Telephone users, in sum, typically know that they must convey numerical information to the phone company; that the phone company has facilities for recording this information; and that the phone company does in fact record this information for a variety of legitimate business purposes. Although subjective expectations cannot be scientifically gauged, it is too much to believe that telephone subscribers, under these circumstances, harbor any general expectation that the numbers they dial will remain secret.

Phone records are not protected by the 4th amendment.