The "Hillary Rosen" Standard

... Which led me to the "Hillary Rosen" standard. Basically she is saying that those with "no experience have no business advising" on issues they have no experience in.

So who is unqualified to do their current job under Hillary Rosen's standard. I'll provide 3, you guys provide some more.....they don't have to be party specific as there are plenty of politicians, in fact almost all of them, on both sides that do not qualify under her "standards"

1) Obama is NOT QUALIFIED to talk about the conservatives because he has been a liberal his whole life.
2) Nancy Pelosi is NOT QUALIFIED to talk about issues affecting the poor/middle class because she has lived the rich lifestyle her whole life
3) Harry Reid is NOT QUALIFIED to talk about christian issues because he has been a mormon his whole life
Taking 2) to its logical conclusion, the OP should also agree that Mitt Romney (and his wife) are also NOT QUALIFIED to talk about issues affecting the poor/middle class as a presidental candidate because he has lived the rich lifestyle his whole life.

In fact, Romney is NOT QUALIFIED to talk to about 99.999% of the American electorate - but he is QUALIFIED to talk to the ones who have $180 - $250 million in assets, have given another $70 - $100 million to their children/grandchildren, own 3 mansions (homes) and earn about $21 million a year from investment income.

Hillary Rosen already proved that Romney can't speak on women's issues because he is a man and Mrs. Romney can't because she is "only" a stay at home mom.

The Obama's are multi-millionaires just like the Romneys so neither is qualified.

Did you not read where I said it can be applied to almost any politician on both sides of the political aisle? Its right there in your quote of me!
 
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Man you guys are something. Romney's said some extremely idiotic things..and Bush was the master of idiocy.

Ms. Rosen makes one quip that at it's base is pretty valid. Mrs. Romney has never been in the workforce and has basically been rich most of her life. She hasn't the slightest idea what most people face nor does she care. And neither does Mitt. He's 65, got more money then some 400 or 500 Americans would ever need in a lifetime, combined..and got a lot of time on his hands. So he's bored.

Hence the run for President.

You are starting to understand the point of this thread sallow....its right on the tip of your brain!

Liberals and the media are holding Romney, Romney's family, Romney's advisors to stupid things they said.....I'm just using the same standard ;).

This is how stupid those liberal media pundints and politicians look who do this, as stupid as the Rosen Rule.
 
What is a Hillary Rosen? And why should we listen to her?

A hillary rosen is a multi-millionaire, DNC advising, CNN working, Huffington Post working, multiple-visits to the white house, woman who said that Anne Romney can not talk about women's issues because she was a stay at home mom and her husband is rich.

Under her standard we are listing off people who are not qualified to do the jobs they do in government...i guess we should list off the people whom, under her standard, ARE qualified as that would be a really short list.....Scott Brown comes to mind for that short list.
 
What is a Hillary Rosen?

Influential democrat activist. Frequent White House visitor.

And why should we listen to her?

One person's opinion is one thing. But she has received much support and agreement from the Left during this episode, and that does mean something, especially the way the Left has been using this "War On Women" schtick to such extent. They made their bed.


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Ohh like the gay massage spiritual advisor to Bush? Or Gannon who ran a gay escort service?

Yes I suppose you are right...

Dude why are you a homophobe? There is nothing wrong with Bush having had a gay advisor.
 
... Which led me to the "Hillary Rosen" standard. Basically she is saying that those with "no experience have no business advising" on issues they have no experience in.

So who is unqualified to do their current job under Hillary Rosen's standard. I'll provide 3, you guys provide some more.....they don't have to be party specific as there are plenty of politicians, in fact almost all of them, on both sides that do not qualify under her "standards"

1) Obama is NOT QUALIFIED to talk about the conservatives because he has been a liberal his whole life.
2) Nancy Pelosi is NOT QUALIFIED to talk about issues affecting the poor/middle class because she has lived the rich lifestyle her whole life
3) Harry Reid is NOT QUALIFIED to talk about christian issues because he has been a mormon his whole life
Taking 2) to its logical conclusion, the OP should also agree that Mitt Romney (and his wife) are also NOT QUALIFIED to talk about issues affecting the poor/middle class as a presidental candidate because he has lived the rich lifestyle his whole life.

In fact, Romney is NOT QUALIFIED to talk to about 99.999% of the American electorate - but he is QUALIFIED to talk to the ones who have $180 - $250 million in assets, have given another $70 - $100 million to their children/grandchildren, own 3 mansions (homes) and earn about $21 million a year from investment income.

Hillary Rosen already proved that Romney can't speak on women's issues because he is a man and Mrs. Romney can't because she is "only" a stay at home mom.

The Obama's are multi-millionaires just like the Romneys so neither is qualified.

Did you not read where I said it can be applied to almost any politician on both sides of the political aisle? Its right there in your quote of me!

There's a huge difference between Obama's net worth and Romney's. Obama probably has around 11 million..

Romney? Over 300 million..but that's not even really known. He's got a alot of "foreign" (aka secret) "investments".
 
Influential democrat activist. Frequent White House visitor.



One person's opinion is one thing. But she has received much support and agreement from the Left during this episode, and that does mean something, especially the way the Left has been using this "War On Women" schtick to such extent. They made their bed.


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Ohh like the gay massage spiritual advisor to Bush? Or Gannon who ran a gay escort service?

Yes I suppose you are right...

Dude why are you a homophobe? There is nothing wrong with Bush having had a gay advisor.

Jeff Gannon was masquerading as a reporter.
 
... Which led me to the "Hillary Rosen" standard. Basically she is saying that those with "no experience have no business advising" on issues they have no experience in.

So who is unqualified to do their current job under Hillary Rosen's standard. I'll provide 3, you guys provide some more.....they don't have to be party specific as there are plenty of politicians, in fact almost all of them, on both sides that do not qualify under her "standards"

1) Obama is NOT QUALIFIED to talk about the conservatives because he has been a liberal his whole life.
2) Nancy Pelosi is NOT QUALIFIED to talk about issues affecting the poor/middle class because she has lived the rich lifestyle her whole life
3) Harry Reid is NOT QUALIFIED to talk about christian issues because he has been a mormon his whole life
Taking 2) to its logical conclusion, the OP should also agree that Mitt Romney (and his wife) are also NOT QUALIFIED to talk about issues affecting the poor/middle class as a presidental candidate because he has lived the rich lifestyle his whole life.

In fact, Romney is NOT QUALIFIED to talk to about 99.999% of the American electorate - but he is QUALIFIED to talk to the ones who have $180 - $250 million in assets, have given another $70 - $100 million to their children/grandchildren, own 3 mansions (homes) and earn about $21 million a year from investment income.

Hillary Rosen already proved that Romney can't speak on women's issues because he is a man and Mrs. Romney can't because she is "only" a stay at home mom.

The Obama's are multi-millionaires just like the Romneys so neither is qualified.

Did you not read where I said it can be applied to almost any politician on both sides of the political aisle? Its right there in your quote of me!
Neither Michelle nor Barrack were born with a "silver spoon in their mouth," Mitt Romney was born into wealth and all the advantages that go with it.
 
Man you guys are something. Romney's said some extremely idiotic things..and Bush was the master of idiocy.

Ms. Rosen makes one quip that at it's base is pretty valid. Mrs. Romney has never been in the workforce and has basically been rich most of her life. She hasn't the slightest idea what most people face nor does she care. And neither does Mitt. He's 65, got more money then some 400 or 500 Americans would ever need in a lifetime, combined..and got a lot of time on his hands. So he's bored.

Hence the run for President.

You are starting to understand the point of this thread sallow....its right on the tip of your brain!

Liberals and the media are holding Romney, Romney's family, Romney's advisors to stupid things they said.....I'm just using the same standard ;).

This is how stupid those liberal media pundints and politicians look who do this, as stupid as the Rosen Rule.

I dunno.

I think the bottom line here was pointing out this silly strategy Romney has been flirting with..that he really is a "regular joe". It never works for the rich candidate..as George HW Bush famously showed. Lately Romney's been back and forth on this..but the "Cheesy Grits", "I'm an unemployed guy" thing was just painful. And it's the same when he brings up his wife and the economy.

It would probably better if he stuck with the "Yeah, I am a rich guy..and I know how the economy works" thing. And stay away from the contraception/abortion thing.

It's not going happen...but..that's my opinion.
 
Taking 2) to its logical conclusion, the OP should also agree that Mitt Romney (and his wife) are also NOT QUALIFIED to talk about issues affecting the poor/middle class as a presidental candidate because he has lived the rich lifestyle his whole life.

In fact, Romney is NOT QUALIFIED to talk to about 99.999% of the American electorate - but he is QUALIFIED to talk to the ones who have $180 - $250 million in assets, have given another $70 - $100 million to their children/grandchildren, own 3 mansions (homes) and earn about $21 million a year from investment income.

Hillary Rosen already proved that Romney can't speak on women's issues because he is a man and Mrs. Romney can't because she is "only" a stay at home mom.

The Obama's are multi-millionaires just like the Romneys so neither is qualified.

Did you not read where I said it can be applied to almost any politician on both sides of the political aisle? Its right there in your quote of me!

There's a huge difference between Obama's net worth and Romney's. Obama probably has around 11 million..

Romney? Over 300 million..but that's not even really known. He's got a alot of "foreign" (aka secret) "investments".

Are the Obama's and the Romney's both multi-millionaires? Yup, rife hypocricy anyone?
 
Man you guys are something. Romney's said some extremely idiotic things..and Bush was the master of idiocy.

Ms. Rosen makes one quip that at it's base is pretty valid. Mrs. Romney has never been in the workforce and has basically been rich most of her life. She hasn't the slightest idea what most people face nor does she care. And neither does Mitt. He's 65, got more money then some 400 or 500 Americans would ever need in a lifetime, combined..and got a lot of time on his hands. So he's bored.

Hence the run for President.

You are starting to understand the point of this thread sallow....its right on the tip of your brain!

Liberals and the media are holding Romney, Romney's family, Romney's advisors to stupid things they said.....I'm just using the same standard ;).

This is how stupid those liberal media pundints and politicians look who do this, as stupid as the Rosen Rule.

I dunno.

I think the bottom line here was pointing out this silly strategy Romney has been flirting with..that he really is a "regular joe". It never works for the rich candidate..as George HW Bush famously showed. Lately Romney's been back and forth on this..but the "Cheesy Grits", "I'm an unemployed guy" thing was just painful. And it's the same when he brings up his wife and the economy.

It would probably better if he stuck with the "Yeah, I am a rich guy..and I know how the economy works" thing. And stay away from the contraception/abortion thing.

It's not going happen...but..that's my opinion.

Where is he getting into the contraception/abortion thing? I missed that in his speeches, he seems to be going on and on about how Obama has failed on the economy and how Obama's vision for America and Romney's vision for America are vastly different.

Do you have a video or a transcript of Romney with the abortion/contraception thing we can discuss?
 
She was just gruging up what Obama and the DNC told her to say.

When it backfired, they left her to hang.

You just have to know someone from the WH "made the call" and giuded her through a way
to fix this.This lady made a huge mistake in going after the wife of a candidate. :cuckoo:
 
She was just gruging up what Obama and the DNC told her to say.

When it backfired, they left her to hang.

That is just plain dumb. She is a political analyst on CNN. Obama is not responsible for every comment made by a pundit.

However she has been in to visit the obama administration in the white house over a dozen times according to visitor logs...............which is why people are attaching her to him.

So what???
 
That is just plain dumb. She is a political analyst on CNN. Obama is not responsible for every comment made by a pundit.

However she has been in to visit the obama administration in the white house over a dozen times according to visitor logs...............which is why people are attaching her to him.

So what???

What do you mean so what?

He was wondering why people were attaching her to Obama, I let him know about all her white house visits which is why people attached her. i'm not sure why you sound upset
 
However she has been in to visit the obama administration in the white house over a dozen times according to visitor logs...............which is why people are attaching her to him.

So what???

What do you mean so what?

He was wondering why people were attaching her to Obama, I let him know about all her white house visits which is why people attached her. i'm not sure why you sound upset

I'm not upset. But the fact that she visited the prez means nothing. Ted Bundy traveled in Republican circles, remember??? Does that mean everybody he visited is also a serial killer??

President Obama made it very clear that spouses and children are off limits. And he has never backed down on that. You are grasping at straws.
 
We were talking about Hillary Rosen's comments in another thread when the following exchange ensued

Does she not have a valid point in that Romney holds his wife up as telling him about women caring about the economy while she herself has never been a part of looking/having a job in that economy?

Why isn't Romney speaking straight out for himself instead of holding up his wife as "advising him" on an issue she has no experience in except...except....she's female. She is commenting on Romney getting advise on an issue from a person how has no experience in that issue.

BTW, I like how Hilary Rosen makes the point that this "War on Women" is purely a Right wing construct.

Do you have to smash your thumb with a hammer to realize that doing so would hurt? By your argument, No one that hasn't personally dealt with a specific situation is qualified to offer advice about that situation. Given that premise, Obama has NEVER run a business so why should anyone consider his opinion on business or economic matters credible?


Which led me to the "Hillary Rosen" standard. Basically she is saying that those with "no experience have no business advising" on issues they have no experience in.

So who is unqualified to do their current job under Hillary Rosen's standard. I'll provide 3, you guys provide some more.....they don't have to be party specific as there are plenty of politicians, in fact almost all of them, on both sides that do not qualify under her "standards"

1) Obama is NOT QUALIFIED to talk about the conservatives because he has been a liberal his whole life.
2) Nancy Pelosi is NOT QUALIFIED to talk about issues affecting the poor/middle class because she has lived the rich lifestyle her whole life
3) Harry Reid is NOT QUALIFIED to talk about christian issues because he has been a mormon his whole life

Obama signed the Lilly Ledbetter act into law. Pretty good for someone who doesn't know what they are doing.
 
However she has been in to visit the obama administration in the white house over a dozen times according to visitor logs...............which is why people are attaching her to him.

So what???

What do you mean so what?

He was wondering why people were attaching her to Obama, I let him know about all her white house visits which is why people attached her. i'm not sure why you sound upset
Hasn't Orange Man Bonner visited the White House? So By the PLYMCO_PILGRIM Standard, Obama and the Crybaby are attached too, using YOUR own moronic "logic" you've been applying throughout this thread. :badgrin:
 
Why are Democrats warring on women?

They're not.

Q. Why do you ask.

A. I ask because the right wing which I represent as a parrot has been caught waging war on women, and the practice of right wing parrots is to accuse Democrats of doing t the nefarious acts that right wing Republicans engage in.
 
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So what???

What do you mean so what?

He was wondering why people were attaching her to Obama, I let him know about all her white house visits which is why people attached her. i'm not sure why you sound upset

I'm not upset. But the fact that she visited the prez means nothing. Ted Bundy traveled in Republican circles, remember??? Does that mean everybody he visited is also a serial killer??

President Obama made it very clear that spouses and children are off limits. And he has never backed down on that. You are grasping at straws.

I never said it meant anything I only was telling you how that person was connecting her to obama.

You need to take a few steps back and re-examine what I was saying, your injecting meaning and intent into my post that was not there. My only intent was to tell you how the individual connected her to obama since you didn't understand what they were using to do so.
 
We were talking about Hillary Rosen's comments in another thread when the following exchange ensued

Do you have to smash your thumb with a hammer to realize that doing so would hurt? By your argument, No one that hasn't personally dealt with a specific situation is qualified to offer advice about that situation. Given that premise, Obama has NEVER run a business so why should anyone consider his opinion on business or economic matters credible?


Which led me to the "Hillary Rosen" standard. Basically she is saying that those with "no experience have no business advising" on issues they have no experience in.

So who is unqualified to do their current job under Hillary Rosen's standard. I'll provide 3, you guys provide some more.....they don't have to be party specific as there are plenty of politicians, in fact almost all of them, on both sides that do not qualify under her "standards"

1) Obama is NOT QUALIFIED to talk about the conservatives because he has been a liberal his whole life.
2) Nancy Pelosi is NOT QUALIFIED to talk about issues affecting the poor/middle class because she has lived the rich lifestyle her whole life
3) Harry Reid is NOT QUALIFIED to talk about christian issues because he has been a mormon his whole life

Obama signed the Lilly Ledbetter act into law. Pretty good for someone who doesn't know what they are doing.

Wow the concept of this is over your head I take it?
 
So what???

What do you mean so what?

He was wondering why people were attaching her to Obama, I let him know about all her white house visits which is why people attached her. i'm not sure why you sound upset
Hasn't Orange Man Bonner visited the White House? So By the PLYMCO_PILGRIM Standard, Obama and the Crybaby are attached too, using YOUR own moronic "logic" you've been applying throughout this thread. :badgrin:

Nice strawman, that wasn't MY logic. That was how some people are connecting her to obama, through her visits to the white house. Get a grip, seems my thread has derailed you a bit. That all being said the people who are tying Rosen to Obama due to her multitude of white house visits could do the same with anyone, including Boner, who had had multiple visits to the white house.


The "logic" of this thread is also not mine but Hillary Rosen's, that logic being that if you haven't experienced something personally you have no right to speak out about it. This logic is evidenced in Rosen's own comments about anne romney not being able to comment on working women's issues since being a stay at home mom with a wealthy husband, in Rosen's opinion, makes her unqualified.

You should know by now that your freak outs won't get me off track.......and considering what my track is with this thread your freakout is hillarious.
 
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